James Cameron's Sequel to "AVATAR"

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In the scenario I've sugested the only human Avatar I mentioned was the one for Jake and Neytiri's daughter. Any other Na'vi on earth would probably not have an avatar.

You'd have 10 foot tall blue cat people swinging around a giant futuristic CG city (semi-stealthily), so I don't see what would be the big drawback about setting the story on earth. Maybe this story would work better as a threequel than a sequel, though, since it would make it easier to set up Jaytiri Jr. as a character (which would be beneficial, if in the third movie she spends most of her time as a human), and develop some of Jake and Neytiri's relationship dynamic now that they're married.

Whether or not the Na'Vi can breathe Earth's air without assistance would be up for Cameron to figure out, but personally I think it would be more convinient for storytelling if they could since that means they don't have to spend the whole movie in oxygen masks. Plus, breathing non-toxic would not necessarily be harmful to a creature from an environment with toxic air. If Pandora's atmosphere contains nitrogen, oxygen, and carbon, and the oxygen is the part the Na'vi use for breathing, then it doesn't really matter if whatever else is in it isn't in Earth's air.
Some interesting ideas. Definitely worth considering.

You know it's also possible that by means of human scientists cloning and studying Pandoran wildlife brought back to earth, that we could even end up seeing Eclans in New York. Maybe even Noctou Marow or how ever it's spelled.
 
Part 2 could possibly be a prequel. Show the humans teaching the Navi english, negotiations, the Navi's first reaction to the arrival of the humans ect. You could even make Netiryi look younger. We could found out how what's his name got the big scar on his head. We could meet Jake's brother played by the same actor of course. We could see some of Grace's relationship with the Navi children. Remember in Avatar when Jake was recording his video journal he asked the tribe to let Grace back into the village. They showed a bunch of children come running up to her whom she had been close to prior to Jake's arrival on Pandora. She commented on how big they had all gotten because the tribe hadn't let her visit the children for a long time.
 
Part 2 could possibly be a prequel. Show the humans teaching the Navi english, negotiations, the Navi's first reaction to the arrival of the humans ect. You could even make Netiryi look younger. We could found out how what's his name got the big scar on his head. We could meet Jake's brother played by the same actor of course. We could see some of Grace's relationship with the Navi children. Remember in Avatar when Jake was recording his video journal he asked the tribe to let Grace back into the village. They showed a bunch of children come running up to her whom she had been close to prior to Jake's arrival on Pandora. She commented on how big they had all gotten because the tribe hadn't let her visit the children for a long time.
To be honest , this is one of those movies where a prequel would be pretty awesome. Not to mention Neytiri had a sister who was killed by the humans before Avatar even takes place (hence her animosity towards humans during the start of the film).

But its not going to happen...at least not anytime soon.
 
if you want to watch how the city looks go out and rent Blade Runner.


hey i also want to see all those deleted scenes. but a whole 2 hour movie where they show the city like in Blade Runner and explain how they f.... up the planet?
 
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Indeed, from the Pandora survial guide book, the city is a cross between Metropolis and Blade Runner city.
You also learn how humans happened to exploit all earth ressources and pollute everything.
 
James Cameron, who contributed his expertise on deep-sea diving to government and Bp officials during the recent oil-spill crisis, and who has made several trips to the Brazilian rain forest, says that he will incorporate his experiences into the next two Avatar sequels. In an interview with Kyle Buchanan, the senior editor at MovieLine.com, Cameron said, “Every experience that you have in your life as a filmmaker is going to affect what you do, and those were both situations where I was directly involved.” Cameron, who called Bp officials “morons” for their handling of the oil spill, added, “Sure, absolutely I’m going to use that for my further condemnation of corporations wrecking the natural world.” He also promised to use his experiences he derived while staying with the indigenous people in the Amazon on two separate trips to the area, saying that they not only influence “how I’m going to write the characters and the detail that I’m going to bring to it, but it also forces me to be very, very responsible about what their issues are.” Some conservative commentators have condemned Avatar as little more than liberal propaganda. A review posted on Andrew Breitbart’s Big Hollywood blog was headlined: “A Big, Dull, America-Hating, PC Revenge Fantasy”
 
Clash of the Titans is proof enough that it takes more than (poorly done) 3-D to make a movie amazing.

Most people who like Avatar don't like it just because they're ooing and ahhhing at the effects with their mouths hanging open, just because those who didn't like it like to make it sound that way.

For me, I enjoy it because of the universe he created and the story. Which really has 3 central themes that are CENTURIES old stories. Long before Cowboys and Indians ever existed together.

The first theme is of discovery that another persons culture isn't nearly as bad as (enter name here) made it out to be. And not nearly as uncivilized as they are made out to be.

The second is the exhaustion of our own resources and the stealing of another societies resources.

Both themes are older than America...and go back to the earliest times of man. I think they are powerful themes, which is why I was attached to Avatar.
 
you what? When Avatar 2 comes out. Even if it makes $0 at the BO, by default Avatar will be the 9th highest grossing franchise of all time just due to the gross of the first film. It would be higher than Indiana JOnes, Toy Story, Star Trek, and more.

Just a little fun fact
 
'Avatar' sequels to film back-to-back?

James Cameron has revealed that he may shoot two Avatar sequels back-to-back.

The filmmaker told MTV that, although no contracts have been confirmed for a return to Pandora, he has already started to think about storylines for the follow-up to his record-breaking blockbuster.

He said: "Avatar 2... we're still working on deals. We don't start the movie until we get the deals worked out. I'm making notes. I'm not sitting idle."

On whether or not the sequels will film concurrently, Cameron said: "We're actually talking about that. That's not a decision yet. That is something that makes a lot of sense, given the nature of these productions, because we can bank all the [motion] capture and then go back and do cameras over a period of time."

The director added that live-action movies that shoot back-to-back suffered towards the latter stages due to a tired cast and crew.

"The way these back-to-back productions fall apart is that you're trying to do two live-action films back to back, and you're working on it for a year and a half, shooting," he explained. "Everyone is dead. It's not humanly possible. This type of film, it absolutely would work."

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a258492/avatar-sequels-to-film-back-to-back.html


'Avatar' sequel 'planned for 2014 release'

James Cameron has reportedly admitted that the sequel to Avatar will not be released until 2014.

According to the New York Post, it could be up to four years before audiences see the next instalment in the sci-fi trilogy.

The Titanic director recently revealed that he plans to film the second and third films together.

Cameron said: "Right now, the thinking is that [films] two and three are going to be done together. They'll be released separately, probably a year apart or maybe even two, but they'll be done in a bunch."

He added: "I'm mapping out the storyline right now, so there's a proper arc that plays out over two films, but [it] buttons nicely at the end of two, so you don't get this horrible second act Matrix feeling – you know, 'I've just sat through a three-hour movie and f**k all happened at the end!'"

Cameron began writing Avatar in 1994.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a266344/avatar-sequel-planned-for-2014-release.html
 
Although I prefer it when film makers and video game developers take their time to make a quality product, 2014 is a little late.

Would have expected it by 2013 at the latest but then again he's filming two films. Hey, at least the CGI will be that much better in that time.
 
he just doesnt get it.

the problem with those movies is that they have one big story. every movie needs to have hes own story. it needs to stand on its own. doesnt matter if Avatar 2 will not end with a cliffhanger.
if you are not able to watch Avatar 3 without Avatar 2 then this is a fail.



and iMO this is all money talking out of him .over the years i think it got clear what kind of filmaker Cameron is. he is not that kind of guy who would make 3 movies together over the years.

i was really thinking that he would do a different blockbuster or at least a small movie.

so from 2005-2016 he will be working only one the Avatar universe and their characters. this is almost full 10 years only on Avatar

this just can not end good.
 
no in no way like LOTR. because it was based on the books and it was from the beginnning meant to be a trilogy.

and while the LOTR movies are quality movies i hate that i need to watch every movie together to understand what is going on. i am not a huge LOTR geek so i dont remember every detail.
 
Dark_b,

Avatar was also meant to be a trilogy and if not, more than one movie. I may be wrong but I recall reading it ... somewhere.

It is logical to shoot n°2 and 3 at the same time, it reduces the cost and doesn't hold the actors for years. This kind of practice doesn't bother me.

Not a LOTR geek !?! I do not compute :) ( I understand what you mean, just kidding )

Maybe Cameron will do something inbetween, like the Battle Angel Alita ( or something ).
 
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Dark_b,

Avatar was also meant to be a trilogy and if not, more than one movie. I may be wrong but I recall reading it ... somewhere.

It is logical to shoot n°2 and 3 at the same time, it reduces the cost and doesn't hold the actors for years. This kind of practice doesn't bother me.

Not a LOTR geek !?! I do not compute :) ( I understand what you mean, just kidding )

Maybe Cameron will do something inbetween, like the Battle Angel Alita ( or something ).
Avatar was meant to be one movie, but they said if it people like it enough and if there was a big enough success, Cameron had some ideas for a sequel.

Also, the "Avatar: Special Edition" is being re-released in cinemas with 9 minutes of new footage. Cameron also said it would be nice for fans to finally see something they like after a "lackluster" summer. :whatever:
 
Cameron also said it would be nice for fans to finally see something they like after a "lackluster" summer. :whatever:

When I think of summers with great movies, I think of a summer with at least 4 or 5 big movies that weren't letdowns. Like 2008.

Aside from Inception and maybe The Expendables, I agree with Cameron. It's almost been as bad as last year.
 
Avatar was always intended to be a franchise and that's exactly how Cameron pitched it to the studio. Same goes for Battle Angel Alita.

Here's an article from 2006, where Cameron mentions this:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1535402/20060629/story.jhtml


Obviously, sequels are completely dependent on how successful the first film is. Especially since the first film was an original IP, with an enormous budget.
 
he just doesnt get it.

the problem with those movies is that they have one big story. every movie needs to have hes own story. it needs to stand on its own. doesnt matter if Avatar 2 will not end with a cliffhanger.
if you are not able to watch Avatar 3 without Avatar 2 then this is a fail.

As someone already pointed out this was meant to be a trilogy for a long time so there is nothing for him "to get".

and iMO this is all money talking out of him .over the years i think it got clear what kind of filmaker Cameron is. he is not that kind of guy who would make 3 movies together over the years.

It's very possible that it could be money "talking out of him" but once again it was planned as a trilogy so it wasn't like he just up and said "Avatar made a **** ton of money, I better bust out some sequels to make even more". Granted, i'm sure there are some thoughts of money in his mind but I highly doubt it's on the level you're talking about.

i was really thinking that he would do a different blockbuster or at least a small movie.

so from 2005-2016 he will be working only one the Avatar universe and their characters. this is almost full 10 years only on Avatar

this just can not end good.

Why do you say that? If he improves on the story and dialogue they can both possibly beat the first in regareds to quality. Also, as fast as CGI has been improving in the past two decades, by the time he does the computer work for these it should look that much better.
 
Avatar was meant to be one movie, but they said if it people like it enough and if there was a big enough success, Cameron had some ideas for a sequel.

Also, the "Avatar: Special Edition" is being re-released in cinemas with 9 minutes of new footage. Cameron also said it would be nice for fans to finally see something they like after a "lackluster" summer. :whatever:

whether or not you rate avatar it has ABSOLUTELY been a lackluster summer.
 
If this summer was lackluster, then last winter was twice as bad. Even having one diamond in the rough can make a movie season worthwhile. Cameron is pretty much saying Avatar will be what makes this movie season not a lackluster, which is ********. Inception and Toy Story 3 have already done that. Hell, just Inception alone has made this summer a good one IMO. Dinner for Shmucks was great too and so was Scott Pilgrim. Last winter we had Sherlock Holmes and Avatar, and in all honesty, Inception and Toy Story 3 are both better films than both SH and Avatar.
 
If this summer was lackluster, then last winter was twice as bad. Even having one diamond in the rough can make a movie season worthwhile. Cameron is pretty much saying Avatar will be what makes this movie season not a lackluster, which is ********. Inception and Toy Story 3 have already done that. Hell, just Inception alone has made this summer a good one IMO. Dinner for Shmucks was great too and so was Scott Pilgrim. Last winter we had Sherlock Holmes and Avatar, and in all honesty, Inception and Toy Story 3 are both better films than both SH and Avatar.


Inception and toy story 3 kept me happy this summer along with a ton of other movies so I agree on this statement, but Avatar was still a fun movie and I hope the sequel will be even better, even if it is a little over hyped.
 
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