James Cameron's Sequel to "AVATAR"

[roach]

Unobtanium. Still makes me burst out into laughter.

its an actual name...Cameron didn't make it up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtanium

 

[Matt]

I had a question...

How much do you think Avatar 2 will gross? Will it reach 3 billion dollars? How about Avatar 3, how much it will gross?

Less than the first. Considerably less. The plot and characters were hardly the drawing point. Avatar profited due to the event-like nature of it. 3D is now common fare. It probably won't break one billion.

 

[Matt]

its an actual name...Cameron didn't make it up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtanium

Yeah but it is a theoroetical joke among the scientific community. No mineral would ever be called "unobtainium," with a straight face.

 

[Sentinel X]

Less than the first. Considerably less. The plot and characters were hardly the drawing point. Avatar profited due to the event-like nature of it. 3D is now common fare. It probably won't break one billion.

I'm not sure if you're being serious...?

Btw, I think this film is going to end up being pushed back. Its due 2014 and they haven't started production yet? The post-production for a film like this requires a lot of time

 

[Kane52630]

It's going to break a billion with ease, just look at all the movies that broke into a billion just in the past 2 years. The real question is if it will break 2 billion like with Avatar or out do Avatar with 3 billion.

 

[Kane52630]

James Cameron Wants to Blow Your Mind With 60 Frames Per Second

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/12/pl_screen60fps/

Shooting in 3-D might get you an occasional holy-crap moment, but if you really want to blow an audience’s mind, increase your frame rate. Movies shot and projected faster than the standard 24 frames per second—at, say, 48 or 60 fps—have startling clarity and emotional impact. Even better, the strobing you sometimes get with 3-D (filmmakers call it the judders) vanishes at 48 fps and up.

Who cares? Peter Jackson and James Cameron. Jackson is shooting The Hobbit in 3-D at 48 fps with high-end digital cameras—no more film for him. And Cameron is leaning toward 60 fps for his Avatar sequels. Cameron says that when he screened test footage for theater owners, “you could literally hear a gasp from the audience when they were shown the difference between 24-frame and 48 frames. And they liked 60 frames even better.”

The irony is that filmmakers have known about the technique for decades. Visual-effects titan Douglas Trumbull wanted to use 60 fps for his 1983 film, Brainstorm, and invented a projection technology he called Showscan. “I got very hooked on this whole idea of immersive cinema,” Trumbull says. “We saw a profoundly different kind of experience happening at up around 60 frames.”

But studios and theaters snubbed the pricey Showscan gear. Trumbull was so bummed that he left Hollywood for Massachusetts. Cameron thinks the world is finally ready. “Doug had the right idea,” he says. “It was just premature brilliance.” Sometimes the industry judders.

 

[D'Attitude]

It wouldn't be a surprise if the sequel shatters every box office record and if it passes the billion dollar mark in just a few days, probably broking what Avatar and last Harry Potter did . With the use of 60 frames per second in Avatar 2, James Cameron may somehow revolutionize film making again like what he did with Avatar.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Less than the first. Considerably less. The plot and characters were hardly the drawing point. Avatar profited due to the event-like nature of it. 3D is now common fare. It probably won't break one billion.

60 fps, realistic underwater sequences, and (possibly) a more original story.

Its got more going for it than you think. If Cameron can build up the hype again, It will definitely break a billion.

 

[Kane52630]

Sam Worthington on the Avatar sequels

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=85754

Avatar 2, meanwhile, remains somewhat of a mystery even to Worthington. Scheduled for a December 2014 release, the plan is to shoot the sequel back to back with a third film.

"I'm talking to Jim next week," says Worthington of his imminent return to Pandora. "I'm going to visit him and we're going to see what's going on."

 

[Marvolo]

James Cameron Wants to Blow Your Mind With 60 Frames Per Second

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/12/pl_screen60fps/

Lmao Cameron can't help going bigger than everyone else. Its like he is stuck in an eternal dick measuribg contest. We don't even have that many 48 fps theaters and he wants to go for 60fps.

I wish he would put this much effort in telling an original story.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

You act as if the guy who made Terminator has never made an original story before. I'm 95% sure it will be original. And why down him for being ambitious?

 

[dark_b]

i am starting to get scared. i thought that since he started talking about projecting more fps that the new technology is different. but it looks like the footage only has more frames per second. and we know how this looks.

 

[:eek:]

Lmao Cameron can't help going bigger than everyone else. Its like he is stuck in an eternal dick measuribg contest. We don't even have that many 48 fps theaters and he wants to go for 60fps.

I wish he would put this much effort in telling an original story.

More or less nothing that comes out of Hollywood is original. Especially when it comes to big budget movies. At least Cameron is always pushing to present familiar stories in new ways with new technology, which is more than most directors of big blockbusters are doing these days.

 

[Marvolo]

More or less nothing that comes out of Hollywood is original. Especially when it comes to big budget movies. At least Cameron is always pushing to present familiar stories in new ways with new technology, which is more than most directors of big blockbusters are doing these days.

Very true. I commend the man for his ambition no doubt and I like his films. My only fear is the added premium all this ambition and innovation is adding to ticket prices.

I do not watch films in 3D its just not for me tho it may be for others. Whatever its merits may be it adds a premium to ticket prices that is ridiculous imo. Cameron's next innovation is just another chance for theaters to charge ever higher prices. I always look forward to innovation but what good is innovation if we can't afford admission to witness it.

First and foremost I care about being able to attend movies at theaters. If innovation must be checked to keep soaring ticket prices down I say, well, then check it. As long as I have a good screen, projector, audio, and a good movie I am happy. I don't need 3D to enjoy a film or 60 fps. Both have merits but neither are necessary to the story.

 

[roach]

More or less nothing that comes out of Hollywood is original. Especially when it comes to big budget movies. At least Cameron is always pushing to present familiar stories in new ways with new technology, which is more than most directors of big blockbusters are doing these days.

people tend to forget this fact...a lot of people believe that every story has been told and all movies/tv shows/books/comics are just telling the same ones over with variations

 

[redhawk23]

Less than the first. Considerably less. The plot and characters were hardly the drawing point. Avatar profited due to the event-like nature of it. 3D is now common fare. It probably won't break one billion.

If Pirates 4 can break a billion Avatar will have no problem I assure you.

 

[redhawk23]

You act as if the guy who made Terminator has never made an original story before. I'm 95% sure it will be original. And why down him for being ambitious?

Funny that you bring up Terminator, as Cameron had to pay up for combining Harland Ellison stories to create it.

lol

 

[redhawk23]

It's going to break a billion with ease, just look at all the movies that broke into a billion just in the past 2 years. The real question is if it will break 2 billion like with Avatar or out do Avatar with 3 billion.

I would hope that we are many, many years away from a 3 billion dollar marker. Mostly because that number will be reached not through a quality movie, or even the quantity of ticket sales, but instead through horrible, horrible amounts of inflation.

 

[:eek:]

I would hope that we are many, many years away from a 3 billion dollar marker. Mostly because that number will be reached not through a quality movie, or even the quantity of ticket sales, but instead through horrible, horrible amounts of inflation.

Well, to be honest, most box office records these days are mostly because of increasing ticket prices. It's something we have to live with.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Funny that you bring up Terminator, as Cameron had to pay up for combining Harland Ellison stories to create it.

lol

That adds to the fact that there aren't any original stories. Even some of the greatest movies of all time aren't original.

 

[dark_b]

the terminator situation is just an exampele how f... up patents and rights to stories are in US.are we going to say that its unoriginal because he used a long take for a guy walking on the street?

Avatar's story is a big copy from the classics. this is a fact. in terminator nothing was a direct copy.

 

[redhawk23]

Well, to be honest, most box office records these days are mostly because of increasing ticket prices. It's something we have to live with.

That's exactly my point, that these new bench marks are driven only by inflation, and a 3 billion dollar movie would represent ridiculous amounts of said inflation.

 

[redhawk23]

That adds to the fact that there aren't any original stories. Even some of the greatest movies of all time aren't original.

I agree, there's a theory that there are in face only 36 stories.

But in the case of Terminator it was specifically 2 stories from a specific author.

 

[Airwings]

What about going to the actual planet, and not any of the moons? I think it's called Polyphemus. What kind of plot could take place there?

 

[Marvolo]

What about going to the actual planet, and not any of the moons? I think it's called Polyphemus. What kind of plot could take place there?

It looks like a gas giant. The atmospheric pressure would make visiting it impossible and gas giants have no solid surfaces. Then there is the possible superstorms. But this is scifi so almost anything is possible.