James Cameron's Sequel to "AVATAR"

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The humans have now seen the potential benefits (and opportunities) of the Avatar program and will seek to indulge in it for their own gain.

I gotta say...if it's an army of blue guys against an army of blue guys...count me out.

Given that the investment that was mentioned in the first movie is very extensive, I somehow doubt an army of Avatars, as we know them, could be high on the list of directions to take.

Spellman's answer to Augustine about simulator hours opens up an interesting possibility though. Marry the link technology to AMP suit technology and you get remote piloted robots, mass producible and a ready fit to carry on the "abuse of military power" theme that runs rampant in Avatar.
 
^ Cool :word::up:

The video game was also before the film. Am I correct?
 
I gotta say...if it's an army of blue guys against an army of blue guys...count me out.

Yeah I guess we can just count you out of everything, Hudson :woot:
 
James Cameron: Don't call it Avatar 2, here's the new title

Sort of. Director James Cameron says it makes no sense to call the follow-up to his megahit 3-D sci-fi movie Avatar 2 and offers up a few details about what he wants for the sequel. (Spoilers ahead!)
Not only would Avatar 2 be an unoriginal name, it wouldn't actually fit: The original movie ended with Jake (Sam Worthington) becoming an actual Na'vi, so he's no longer an avatar.

"Certainly I don't want to call it Avatar 2," Cameron said at the Visual Effects Society Awards ceremony in Century City, Calif., on Sunday, where he was honored with the Lifetime Achievement Award. "He's not an avatar anymore, is he? Maybe we'll call it Na'vi."
As for the story, a second Avatar film would emphasize the spiritual aspect of the Na'vi even further than the original, he said. Avatar was primarily an action/adventure with the spiritual nature of the Na'vi at its heart. Now that audiences have embraced the Na'vi culture, Cameron can give it more weight in the sequels.
"I think we can see that there's a greater receptivity to it on the part of the audience than certainly the studio originally imagined," Cameron said. "We pared back on it a fair bit in the first film, and I think we can go farther in that direction and not alienate people."
Earlier, Cameron had said he hadn't completed a deal yet to direct the sequel. But he made clear on Sunday that he wouldn't let anyone else direct the follow-up.
"I wouldn't do that for the second film," Cameron said. "It'd be premature to turn it over to somebody else right now. I think I'd have to use a film to train somebody to be able to take the reins, honestly. That's how I see it."
Cameron has mentioned plans for a trilogy of Avatar films. At least he's on board for the next one, even if he delegates the third.
To see Cameron's VES Lifetime Achievement Awards acceptance speech, watch the VES Awards on Reelz Channel March 5 at 10 p.m
 
Well, it looks like I was onto something with my earlier posts claiming that Dr. Grace Augustine was among the apparently-dead-but-has-a-way-back list of characters.

Old news BTW, but I just saw this today...

Sigourney Weaver has been talking with James Cameron on Dr. Grace Augustine's possible return.

A couple of comments Weaver has made:
  • "If you look at the footage, I don't really... I go somewhere, right? It's science fiction. Anything can happen."
  • "I'm actually in the tree. I can't promise anything, but I think James Cameron wants to bring the family together"

So, now that one's out of the way I wonder which of my other two possible 'resurrection' predictions might occur. :woot:

1.) Spellman's avatar left in a recoverable state and after much repair work becomes usable again.
2.) Trudi Chacon bails out of the tilt-rotor, probably winding up critically injured and heavily scarred.

That last one is a stretch, I know, but still (remotely) plausible. :oldrazz:
 
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65234

Jon Landau on When to Expect an Avatar Sequel
Earlier this evening, ComingSoon.net was invited to get a sneak preview of the new Blu-ray release of James Cameron's Avatar on April 22. Before that, we were able to sit down with producer Jon Landau for him to field some of our questions about the release and some of the technical aspects of making the movie. We'll run that interview next week, but as a preview, we wanted to share Landau's response when asked about the pressures to produce the much-rumored Avatar sequel, given the success of the movie on so many levels.

"Look, I think one of the things that we have been successful at is that the most pressure we feel is our own pressure," he told us. "I think that's true as we make a movie, whether it be 'Titanic' or 'Avatar.' Our pressure about an 'Avatar' sequel is self-imposed. We've always said that if the public wanted a sequel that we would do a sequel. That having been said, in my opinion, Jim has done two sequels in his career, and both times, he has at least equaled if not surpassed the original movie. We're only going to do it when we have a piece of material, a script, that we believe will be at least as entertaining and unique as the first movie was."

Then again, once they get that material--and Landau agreed that the possibilities for a sequel are somewhat endless--making a sequel will likely be a lot easier than it was to make the first movie. "Not only that, but the hard part is out of the way. We figured out how to do it, and our goal in the next one is to do it more cost-effectively and more time-efficiently, and we have kept on a team of our technical staff who is working right now on Gen 2 of what we did, but with all the experience that we've had. We kept them on, and they're working for us right now."

Over the next few months, Landau and Cameron will be overseeing production on the supplementary materials for the four-disc ultimate edition Avatar Blu-ray out in November, many of which will appear in the months between releases through "The Avatar Program," which will allow those who buy the initial DVD release exclusive access to the materials at Avatarmovie.com.

Eventually, the Blu-ray will include a brand-new two-hour documentary on making Avatar and unused extra scenes from the movie, including more on the Na'vi school run by Sigourney Weaver and on Jake's training as an Avatar. With that in mind, we wondered how much time Cameron might have to start developing new material.

"The good news is that we have systems and methodologies in place that will not consume a lot of Jim's time," Landau said. "I think Jim's time will be surgical coming in. We have a very good behind-the-scenes crew working on this two-hour documentary we want to put together - Jim's not doing it himself. We have Weta Digital working on these shots, but our animation supervisor is now our visual FX supervisor, so he'll take all of this to a certain point and then Jim will be able to come in, but hopefully, he'll be able to go off and do some other stuff. There are a small number of movies that Jim wants to (direct) himself, but he doesn't want to say that he can do things that he's not going to have time for, and we know that whatever movie he does is not going to be done in six months."

In the meantime, Avatar is released on Blu-ray and DVD on Earth Day, Thursday, April 22, but if you haven't had a chance to see it in IMAX 3D, it's also reopening in select cities this weekend. Look for our full interview with Jon Landau sometime next week.
 
Avatar Sequel to Focus on Pandora's Ocean

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65366
With Avatar hitting Blu-ray and DVD on Thursday, the Los Angeles Times talked to James Cameron about the highest-grossing movie of all time (it's at $2.717 billion now). In the interview, Cameron revealed that the Avatar sequel will focus on the ocean of Pandora while they'll explore more of the Alpha Centauri AB system in a third film. Here's an excerpt:

We created a broad canvas for the environment of film. That's not just on Pandora, but throughout the Alpha Centauri AB system. And we expand out across that system and incorporate more into the story – not necessarily in the second film, but more toward a third film. I've already announced this, so I might as well say it: Part of my focus in the second film is in creating a different environment – a different setting within Pandora. And I'm going to be focusing on the ocean on Pandora, which will be equally rich and diverse and crazy and imaginative, but it just won't be a rain forest. I'm not saying we won't see what we've already seen; we'll see more of that as well.

While Thursday's release doesn't have any features, Cameron says that we'll get an additional six minutes in theaters for a re-release of the film in August before a 4-Disc Blu-ray/DVD set hits stores in November:

We're working on finishing an additional six minutes of the film -- which includes a lot of Weta work -- for a theatrical re-release in August. We were sold out of our IMAX performances right up to the moment until they were contractually obligated to switch to "Alice in Wonderland," so we know we left money on the table there. And the 3-D really helped "Avatar" right up until the moment that it hurt it. And it hurt it at the moment "Alice" and then "How to Train Your Dragon" and "Clash of the Titans" came in and sucked up all the 3-D screens. We went from declining 8% a week to declining 50%. Clearly, it wasn't market forces directly; it was the availability of theaters. So we're going to wait until there's a time to come back in, inject the new footage into the mix and see if we can interest people in the "Avatar" experience in theaters.

ComingSoon.net will have a chance on Wednesday to speak to Cameron, so hopefully we'll be able to learn more about the next two installments.
 
interesting.

WETA was afraid to do water for the movie(Jake jumping from the thanator) because to its the most complex CGI work.

- 1:
water is very hard.WETA was afraid to do a full CGI water scene with Jake Sully
- 2:
if in the sequel its 50% water then the movie will be super expensive
- 3:
Cameron was talking how it would be cheaper to do the sequel since they would be using everything from the first movie. not really because it was obvious that he would have to do something new for the sequel. its a normal lie where you get the studio to finance your most expensive movie. he did the same for Titanic. he got the studio to pay him a trip to the real Titanic.
every CGI model is allways updated for a new movie that comes tu 2-4 years after the first one. they need to be updated beause the new software and better computers
- 4:
if it will be about the oceans then the sequel will be more expensive which is not a problem because the movie made 2,7 billion dollars. yes 2 ,5 billion
 
interesting.

WETA was afraid to do water for the movie(Jake jumping from the thanator) because to its the most complex CGI work.

- 1:
water is very hard.WETA was afraid to do a full CGI water scene with Jake Sully
- 2:
if in the sequel its 50% water then the movie will be super expensive
- 3:
Cameron was talking how it would be cheaper to do the sequel since they would be using everything from the first movie. not really because it was obvious that he would have to do something new for the sequel. its a normal lie where you get the studio to finance your most expensive movie. he did the same for Titanic. he got the studio to pay him a trip to the real Titanic.
every CGI model is allways updated for a new movie that comes tu 2-4 years after the first one. they need to be updated beause the new software and better computers
- 4:
if it will be about the oceans then the sequel will be more expensive which is not a problem because the movie made 2,7 billion dollars. yes 2 ,5 billion

1) Well obviously they don't have to render water ripples etc when most of the action takes place underwater which is the place where Cameron's dick usually get hard.

2) See above.

3) Well that is one way of looking at things.
But at the same time they had to create the tech for Avatar. Because everything was new to them they faced problems on a daily basis and once they realised how they could tackle the problems , things went smoother.
For example 6 months before production would begin Cameorn wanted to block out action scenes with stunt performers. He wanted to use the volume to experiment with angles , see how scenes would look etc for basically those 6 months. Then when the actors would come on board he'd shoot them because he knew which shots worked best. Unfortunately the crew spent those 6 months just solving problems of the virtual production ( i'm quoting this directly from CInefex btw). So by the time everything was worked out they needed to start shooting.
Pre-capture was done initially with the stunt performers and within a period of a few days , the actors would them shoot the scene again. It was alot of experimentation going on.
Cameron has insisted to pre-cap the entire sequel before he'll shoot the scenes with the actors.

I think the time efficiency now is a bigger task here. Shooting avatar ( not the liveaction stuff) essentially goes like this
1 Cameron blocking out the scenes with stunt players. Trying to get the right location of mountains , plants etc. Choose the right angles for the scenes
2 Get the actors to film the scenes which could take around ten days or so along with footage shot from 4 different HD cameras
3 Cameron edits all the mo-cap performances along with HD camera footage and gives it to WETA
4 WETA gives Cameron a rough animation of how the scene looks like . After Cameorn approves the footage is then given to WETA to really begin the tedious task of animation.

If i'm not mistaken once the mo-cap and live action shooting was finished , then WETA started work on the animation. The time that Cameron spend doing mo-cap and live-action , WETA did a year long R&D to figure out how to make the images look photoreal.
Obviously with new settings come challenges and so WETA must again up their game to try to figure out just how make oceanic surroundings and creatures look photoreal. But i do think that their work on Avatar will greatly help . WIll it take another year ? I dunno.

4) Time is money. No doubt that sequel will be expensive considering new stuff are created. But if they can figure out a way to shoot the things faster as well handing over the work to WETA earlier things may get cheaper.
50% cheaper. Again i dunno about that.
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1)
3) Well that is one way of looking at things.
But at the same time they had to create the tech for Avatar. Because everything was new to them they faced problems on a daily basis and once they realised how they could tackle the problems , things went smoother.
For example 6 months before production would begin Cameorn wanted to block out action scenes with stunt performers. He wanted to use the volume to experiment with angles , see how scenes would look etc for basically those 6 months. Then when the actors would come on board he'd shoot them because he knew which shots worked best. Unfortunately the crew spent those 6 months just solving problems of the virtual production ( i'm quoting this directly from CInefex btw). So by the time everything was worked out they needed to start shooting.
Pre-capture was done initially with the stunt performers and within a period of a few days , the actors would them shoot the scene again. It was alot of experimentation going on.
Cameron has insisted to pre-cap the entire sequel before he'll shoot the scenes with the actors.

I think the time efficiency now is a bigger task here. Shooting avatar ( not the liveaction stuff) essentially goes like this
1 Cameron blocking out the scenes with stunt players. Trying to get the right location of mountains , plants etc. Choose the right angles for the scenes
2 Get the actors to film the scenes which could take around ten days or so along with footage shot from 4 different HD cameras
3 Cameron edits all the mo-cap performances along with HD camera footage and gives it to WETA
4 WETA gives Cameron a rough animation of how the scene looks like . After Cameorn approves the footage is then given to WETA to really begin the tedious task of animation.

If i'm not mistaken once the mo-cap and live action shooting was finished , then WETA started work on the animation. The time that Cameron spend doing mo-cap and live-action , WETA did a year long R&D to figure out how to make the images look photoreal.
Obviously with new settings come challenges and so WETA must again up their game to try to figure out just how make oceanic surroundings and creatures look photoreal. But i do think that their work on Avatar will greatly help . WIll it take another year ? I dunno.

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i meant the assets. the planet,the plants,....

Cameron said that it would more cheaper because they already build the planet Pandora and the na'vi.

which is 100% bulls.. . because for the sequel you would need new location,new enviorment and new cahracters. plus you need to update all the CGI models from Jake,Neytiri for the new new software and computers.

the amount of time that they will save with the assets from the first movie is.................very little.
 
Dark B,

I think Cameron meant that they will not have to start from scratch, they already have the tool and the experience of the first movie. They will not ( I think ) have to build another sofware, just update the level of details etc.

I just bought the DvD today on my way to work !
 
Can we petition Michael Biehn for Avatar 2 please!
 
I can't see how native will go diving...or how you can base a story around it.
 
I can't see how native will go diving...or how you can base a story around it.

Actually it is pretty easy ( in SF ), they can use a symbiot that extract the air from the water for its wearer.
Imagine a kind of jellyfish that you put on your face/head like a breathing mask.
 
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Actually it is pretty easy ( in SF ), they can use a symbiot that extract the air from the water for its wearer.
Imagine a kind of jellyfish that you put on your face/head like a breathing mask.

And the sexual innuendos continue.... :dry:

but anyway Jake is already a 100% Navi right? He doesnt need the gas mask anymore right?
 
And the sexual innuendos continue.... :dry:

but anyway Jake is already a 100% Navi right? He doesnt need the gas mask anymore right?

What ?

I was describing an easy way for the Na'vi to breath underwater, nothing to do with Jake Sully.
 
Yeah, but the mental picture of Na'vi running around with jellyfish on their heads is a bit distracting. :cwink:
 
Yeah, but the mental picture of Na'vi running around with jellyfish on their heads is a bit distracting. :cwink:

Imagination knows no boundaries I can understand that but it's not a reason to automatically think about sexual connotation when there is none :)

Btw, the idea if not mine nor new, I saw it in various book and "bande dessinée" ( graphic novel as english people call them ).
 
Can navi breathe underwater in the first place? What if they can?
 
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