James Cameron's Sequel to "AVATAR"

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This is good news. I'll have a reason to stay in Animal Kingdom a bit longer after riding Dinosaur and Kali River Rapids.

And Expedition Everest. :up:

The people on the Disney theme park message board I read are having an absolute meltdown over this. You'd think Mickey and Minnie had been evicted or something...
 
Well they should know better I mean.. if they are upset that they so called "sold out" then I assume they are totally oblivious. Plus isn't that area huge?
 
The people on the Disney theme park message board I read are having an absolute meltdown over this. You'd think Mickey and Minnie had been evicted or something...

Why are they having a meltdown? If Fox hadn't exercised it's right of first refusal, Disney would've produced and released Avatar (they were seriously interested in Cameron when he was shopping it around and Fox was dragging their feet by that point).

Disney hasn't sold out or anything. If anything, it's to get in on the Avatar franchise and get some of that moola. And it's an interesting spin on "what could've been."
 
Well, on one hand it's understandable...the Studios park is more desperately in need of a revamp, and since they're obviously coming up with an answer to Wizarding World of Harry Potter, people were hoping that maybe we'd finally see that Monsters Inc roller coaster that's been rumored for years, or they'd build up the Marvel stuff, or even create a Star Wars-themed land to go around Star Tours.

Right now the Studios park has one family ride (Toy Story Midway Mania) and it has upwards of two-hour waits every day. It's ridiculous.

So they're upset about that. But on the other hand, there are a ton of people on that forum who just hated the movie and doesn't think it belongs there. Some went all Fox News ballistic and think Disney is trying to promote a political agenda with it. They also think the movie isn't that popular, and it won't boost attendance at the parks.

I'm reserving judgment on it until we can see what they're planning. The announcement was surprising, but it could be quite cool if it's done right.
 
Here's an article on how the Disney/Avatar deal came to be:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-hill/avatar-park_b_973615.html

A few videos as well:

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Seems as though Disney's really going all out with this. They're spending over 400 Million and they want this to be on par with what Universal has done with Harry Potter.

Should be extremely cool when it all comes to fruition.
 
Well, on one hand it's understandable...the Studios park is more desperately in need of a revamp, and since they're obviously coming up with an answer to Wizarding World of Harry Potter,
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I'm reserving judgment on it until we can see what they're planning. The announcement was surprising, but it could be quite cool if it's done right.

Bingo. But I think since Cameron is getting involved with the attractions, it could be quite cool. Maybe Disney could construct an structural Pandora and one of the rides could be styled a la "Forbidden Journey" where you ride with Jake and Ney'tiri through the skies, pass the Tree of Souls and battle the Sec'Ops. Use a combination of projection and practical sets, and that could be a very cool ride indeed.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cameron got Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldana, Stephen Lang and Sigourney Weaver to shoot some scenes specifically for the ride attractions. Scratch that, Disney will probably do that anyway.
 
So they're upset about that. But on the other hand, there are a ton of people on that forum who just hated the movie and doesn't think it belongs there. Some went all Fox News ballistic and think Disney is trying to promote a political agenda with it. They also think the movie isn't that popular, and it won't boost attendance at the parks.


Yeah it sounds the same complaints people have on here for Avatar. I really don't get the hate for the film, just because the story is overused? You can take any film, films that is critically praised (which Avatar is also critically praised) go to tvtropes.org and you can see the common tropes they used.
 
I dont care what anybody says about Avatar.
When i watched that movie i was put ON pandora.
 
Yeah it sounds the same complaints people have on here for Avatar. I really don't get the hate for the film, just because the story is overused? You can take any film, films that is critically praised (which Avatar is also critically praised) go to tvtropes.org and you can see the common tropes they used.

I think the criticism is much more centered over the fact that the story wasn't partiulary good rather than it being overused. Look at Star Trek. Can you possibly make a Star Trek film with a more overused plot line? People ended up liking it so the criticism was kept to a minimum.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Cameron got Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldana, Stephen Lang and Sigourney Weaver to shoot some scenes specifically for the ride attractions. Scratch that, Disney will probably do that anyway.

Cameron got Furlong, Hamilton, and Schwarzenegger back for the Universal Studios T2:3D ride. So don't scratch that possibility off the list just yet :cwink:
 
I think the criticism is much more centered over the fact that the story wasn't partiulary good rather than it being overused. Look at Star Trek. Can you possibly make a Star Trek film with a more overused plot line? People ended up liking it so the criticism was kept to a minimum.

That's not true. There is nothing wrong with the plot. Every action fits and makes sense, the plot is easy to follow, and there aren't any internal flaws at all. In fact most of the complaints can't focus on calling the plot bad, so they fall back on saying it's ripped from this or that, or that's it's too archetypal. What most people forget, and this is what I like the most, is how the movie is all about what means to be alive. Does it matter what shell you are if you're consciousness is intact? The whole search for identity angle is what I love more, but people ignore it, even the fans.
 
That's not true. There is nothing wrong with the plot. Every action fits and makes sense, the plot is easy to follow, and there aren't any internal flaws at all. In fact most of the complaints can't focus on calling the plot bad, so they fall back on saying it's ripped from this or that, or that's it's too archetypal. What most people forget, and this is what I like the most, is how the movie is all about what means to be alive. Does it matter what shell you are if you're consciousness is intact? The whole search for identity angle is what I love more, but people ignore it, even the fans.

That's what I really love about the movie as well. :up:
 
Going back to the 60 fps thing.

How many theaters are actually capable of projecting films at 48/60 fps?

Projectors are just one part of the equation. Cameron said, “The cost (to go to higher frame rates) is not at the camera, which is very straightforward; the cost is not at the projectors, because it is a software upgrade. I could go out right now, shoot a movie at 60 fps if it was all live action and project it, and have a stunning effect. It has value immediately.

According to the quote, it seems like all it takes is a software upgrade. I'm sure that around the end of 2012 most, if not all of the theaters will have upgraded their projectors for The Hobbit.
 
I read the script to Avatar last night and then afterwards I watched it again and I dont get the hate...pretty much everyone I have met hates it because its a reused story....which I counter with name one truely original movie....which they cant.
 
It would be cool to get some flashbacks of Jake as a soldier on earth in the sequel. The "you don't want that kind of blood on your hands, believe me" line hints that he did some pretty ****ed up **** in Venezuela. It'd be some good character development and an excuse for Cameron to show some more badass future war tech. If the new villain in the sequel is a guy from earth sent to Pandora, he could be a former squad mate of Jake's. Maybe a little cliche, but that's never stopped Cameron before.
 
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That'd be cool to get some flashbacks of Jake as a soldier on earth in the sequel. The "you don't want that kind of blood on your hands, believe me" line hints that he did some pretty ****ed up **** in Venezuela. It'd be some good character development and an excuse for Cameron to show some more badass future war tech.

I dont think it hints at anything he did...just that he is/was a soldier that knows the limits. Being in a VA hospital maybe he saw first hand the effects of soldiers doing pretty f'd up stuff.
 
Jake Sully was born and raised on Earth and grew up hearing about Pandora, a small moon orbiting the gas giant Polyphemus in the Alpha Centauri System. Though nothing is known of his childhood, he joined the Marines as an adult for the hardship involved and a cause to fight for. He suffered a spinal injury in an unspecified war while fighting in Venezuela. The injury was severe, leaving him paralyzed from the waist down.

Since his veteran benefits are not enough to pay for the surgery to repair his spine, he has no choice but to live out his life in a wheelchair. After a night of drinking, Jake starts a bar fight with a man who strikes a woman. After breaking up the fight, the bouncers throw him out into the street where he is approached by two RDA agents. After confirming his identity, the agents inform him that his identical twin brother, Tom, had been killed in a mugging. His brother was one of the selected few scientists chosen to participate in the Avatar Program, and one of even fewer avatar drivers. Tom had trained on Earth for three years in preparation for a tour on Pandora. He represented a significant investment on the part of the Resources Development Administration due to the inherent link between the pilot and the avatar he controls, as well as the enormous cost of creating an avatar. Since Jake is genetically identical to his brother, he can link with the avatar, saving the company the cost of creating a new one. After being offered significant compensation, he apprehensively agrees to take over his brother's contract and is put in cryosleep for the trip to Pandora.

There's his origins.
 
Avatar 2
Asked how Sigourney Weaver might come back in the sequel despite her mind becoming one with a tree in the first film, James Cameron wouldn't confirm but hinted at how that will be accomplished.
"Have you ever heard of nonlinear storytelling? A lot happens on that planet before she shows up, and before Jake shows up to join her. She’s there for fifteen years ahead of time." [Source: Vulture]
 
I read the script to Avatar last night and then afterwards I watched it again and I dont get the hate...pretty much everyone I have met hates it because its a reused story....which I counter with name one truely original movie....which they cant.

I've found there to be 3 different groups of people that hate Avatar.

The first group is from my experience the smallest. People that just didn't care for the movie overall. Just wasn't their thing.

Most of the hate comes from these other two types of people. People who like to trash big budget, popular movies because they try too hard to act or sound like professional film critics/snobs. These are the ones that pretty much already have their mind/opinions made up before they even see the film.

Them as well as the people who were making fun of the CGI after watching that first teaser and saying it looked like video game graphics. When the finished film came out and the CGI looked much better, it shut them up and so they had to run to something else to knock on the movie...which was the reused story thing.

As for Weaver returning. It would be cool to see some flashbacks of her teaching the young Na'vi english at that school of hers.
 
The majority of Avatar criticism is Hype backlash.
 
My head would explode if Arnold made an appearance in Avatar 2.
 
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