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John Byrne Should Be Drawing For Marvel!

Byrne's Hidden Years stuff was garbage, too.

I enjoyed that very much. Quesada must be cool with publishing "redundant" titles now, as that was the reason he gave for Hidden Years getting axed. He's basically doing the same comic with a different name now.

I'd be fine with Byrne writing something like Alpha Flight again (drawing it, too), and he'd work well on She-Hulk, Wolverine, or something too obscure to scrutinze, but I'd prefer that he just draw, for the most part.
 
I enjoyed that very much. Quesada must be cool with publishing "redundant" titles now, as that was the reason he gave for Hidden Years getting axed. He's basically doing the same comic with a different name now.

And it's a lot more fun than Byrne's crap. :up:
 
I'd be fine with Byrne writing something like Alpha Flight again (drawing it, too), and he'd work well on She-Hulk, Wolverine, or something too obscure to scrutinze, but I'd prefer that he just draw, for the most part.
Byrne hates Alpha Flight, so it's unlikely he'd return to it.
 
I'd be fine with Byrne writing something like Alpha Flight again (drawing it, too), and he'd work well on She-Hulk, Wolverine, or something too obscure to scrutinze, but I'd prefer that he just draw, for the most part.

Wow... you just named off a bunch of stuff that Byrne has already done at Marvel... why not wish for him to do something "diffferent"?

Otherwise, just reread all those old Alpha Flight, She-Hulk & Uncanny books that he has done...

:whatever: :whatever: :whatever:
 
Wow... you just named off a bunch of stuff that Byrne has already done at Marvel... why not wish for him to do something "diffferent"?

Otherwise, just reread all those old Alpha Flight, She-Hulk & Uncanny books that he has done...

:whatever: :whatever: :whatever:

I did when I said SOMETHING TOO OBSCURE TO SCRUTINIZE. Maybe you don't realize this, but Byrne has done everything that's NOT obscure at Marvel.
 
Well, he did do a few issues of the Champions...
 
The Champions aren't obscure, they're on the cover of the next Incredible Herc issue. :oldrazz:
 
Plus their original comic was one of the best Marvel ever put out. :up:
 
1-byrne: I love is style in the 80's with x-men and fantastic four in cap America now is not like it was before
2-now is outdated
3-is personality sucks. John Byrne is to comic like ty cobb was to baseball 'he love to be hate’ and he love to make scandal
4-for color pattern he don’t have the decision, he take the decision
5-he have a high esteem of himself in is art

6-I love is art but i hate the guy i meet him in a convention and he is a bad person
7- he a Canadian but he really hate Quebecois that why he create a gay French superheroes and her crazy sister from Quebec in alpha flight
8-in 70'wolverine was a super heroes from Quebec
9-In x-men giant size #1 wolverine speak French he was from Montréal
10-When johns Byrne take the mantle of x-man in 1978 he transforms wolverine from Quebecois to French Canadian to Canadian
11-he hate so much French Canadian he cant think the favourite heroes of 80’ was Quebecois and when he create alpha flight he create northstar and is sister a gay superheroes from Quebec to dissociate wolverine from Quebec

12-This is not what I think, this is real facts
 
No one's mentioned his work on Incredible Hulk yet. That was pretty good.

I'd say X-Men, FF, Superman, Captain America, and Hulk were his best work.
 
He hates blacks. But he's not racist. He hates everyone who's not him.
 
No one's mentioned his work on Incredible Hulk yet. That was pretty good.

I'd say X-Men, FF, Superman, Captain America, and Hulk were his best work.

Actually, his short run on Incredible Hulk was his best work ever, IMO. I still have the scar and remember the gut wrenching heartache I felt when he abruptly left and went to DC to do Superman.

That's supposed to be collected around the time the movie comes out!
 
I'm a fan of the legendary writer/artist extraordaire and messageboard disciplinarian, John Byrne. I'm not some blind fanatic, though, like some claim, but I do enjoy his linework, output, designs, and covers.

He's the kind of artist that would work well on the Hulk, Fantastic Four, one of the Avengers titles, Iron-Man, X-Men, Alpha Flight, Wolverine, Marvel Team Up, or a number of more obscure character books.

He would also be an ideal candidate for short term projects (so the eventual bad blood between him and his editor would never boil over). I think he'd be great in the role that John Romita Jr. now has at Marvel, bouncing around the Marvel Universe. He could do things like a Captain America WWII mini or a Marvel Universe mini in the same vain as World War Hulk or Secret Invasion.

I do wish he'd pay more attention to filling most every panel with detailed backgrounds. I also wish he'd embrace the new coloring techniques a bit more.

I like his old stuff better, but he's still really good.
No, he's awesome. I remember his work with the Fantastic Four in the early 80's...I wish he'd come back to Marvel and pencil some of their bigger titles...
 
I wouldn't mind seeing Byrne's art again if he could take himself back to his older, Uncanny X-Men-era style. His style's shifted a lot over the years to the point that his more recent work looks really bland and uninteresting to me.

It's such a radical change that it's a true shame. One of the reason's I read comics still today is because I fell in love with the Marvel characters that Byrne drew as I grew up. So, despite his personality, I'll always have a place in my heart for his work. I bought Nextmen even though the stories were awful. Picking up his JLA & Atom stuff was just sad. How come artists like George Perez got better with age but Byrne took a major step back? It seems to me like he has placed speed over quality. If he could even come close to his heyday, I'd welcome him back to Marvel in a minute.

And this is coming from a guy that read his Fantastic Four run as it was coming out

I still think that FF run is the best long term run of all-time. Story AND art, those issues are still pure gold.

Well, he did do a few issues of the Champions...

And Iron Fist (which featured the very first appearance of Sabretooth!)
 
It's such a radical change that it's a true shame. One of the reason's I read comics still today is because I fell in love with the Marvel characters that Byrne drew as I grew up. So, despite his personality, I'll always have a place in my heart for his work. I bought Nextmen even though the stories were awful. Picking up his JLA & Atom stuff was just sad. How come artists like George Perez got better with age but Byrne took a major step back? It seems to me like he has placed speed over quality. If he could even come close to his heyday, I'd welcome him back to Marvel in a minute.



I still think that FF run is the best long term run of all-time. Story AND art, those issues are still pure gold.


They're excellent, but at the end of the day, all Byrne really did is riff off of what Stan & Jack did twenty years earlier....it was very cool and entertaining, but hardly in league with the Lee & Kirby era, which is pretty much the backbone of the modern Marvel Universe imo...
 
They're excellent, but at the end of the day, all Byrne really did is riff off of what Stan & Jack did twenty years earlier....it was very cool and entertaining, but hardly in league with the Lee & Kirby era, which is pretty much the backbone of the modern Marvel Universe imo...

Backbone maybe but Byrne's stuff grew the body around that backbone. I'll never say anything negative about Lee/Kirby but Byrne just captured the FF and the complexity of their personalities perfectly. Yes, I know Jack & Stan CREATED those personalities but Byrne seemed to make them more real, more smart and somehow just as fun. That's just my opinion, which I'm sure not even the ego of Byrne himself would agree with. His reverence for those early works always shined through and inspired him. That's also why I think that run is so great.
 
He hates blacks. But he's not racist. He hates everyone who's not him.



-is personality sucks. John Byrne is to comic like ty cobb was to baseball 'he love to be hate’ and he love to make scandal
-he have a high esteem of himself in is art

-I love is art but i hate the guy i meet him in a convention and he is a bad person i want to punch him
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-is personality sucks. John Byrne is to comic like ty cobb was to baseball 'he love to be hate’ and he love to make scandal
-he have a high esteem of himself in is art

-I love is art but i hate the guy i meet him in a convention and he is a bad person i want to punch him
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I've always saw Byrne to be very critical of his art, especially when comparing himself to John Buscema, Neal Adams, Jack Kirby, or Alan Davis. He criticizes his art a lot, he just doesn't allow anyone else to. :oldrazz:
 

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