The Dark Knight Joker Scars: Accidental; self inflicted?

[TromaFreak64]

I thought it was really, really, stupid. Easily the worst part of an otherwise good arc. Batman's reason for doing it was bloody ridiculous: "I have the time to hurl a weapon at him; I'm going to intentionally wound him, to remind him we're not finished! I could just try to DISABLE him, so he can be captured, but that would just make too much sense!"

If Batman had attempted to disable him and failed--resulting in the gash--that would have been fine. Instead, the writer decided to do something stupid. The worst part was that Batman made sure to point out "I'm not trying to stop him, just wound him, to piss him off!" Yeah, brilliant.

Again why I prefer TKJ at the moment.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I thought it was really, really, stupid. Easily the worst part of an otherwise good arc. Batman's reason for doing it was bloody ridiculous: "I have the time to hurl a weapon at him; I'm going to intentionally wound him, to remind him we're not finished! I could just try to DISABLE him, so he can be captured, but that would just make too much sense!"

If Batman had attempted to disable him and failed--resulting in the gash--that would have been fine. Instead, the writer decided to do something stupid. The worst part was that Batman made sure to point out "I'm not trying to stop him, just wound him, to piss him off!" Yeah, brilliant.

Though, in defense of the writer, the whole recurring theme of the issue was Batman making stupid mistakes in judgement, climaxing in what surely has to be a biggie at the end of the issue.

As for the story itself, I'm enjoying it, though I'm still viewing it as A take on The Joker rather than THE take on The Joker. I can enjoy "The Killing Joke", "The Man Who Laughs" AND this story, even if continuity-wise they all contradict each other.

How does it relate to the movie? Little touches seem to be fitting him in line with movie Joker. For example, he is described as being in his late 20s, the same age as Heath Ledger. And also, there's the cut-smile. However, though they are inserting that into the comics, it doesn't necessarily mean that exact scene will happen in the film. Again, I wouldn't be surprised if The Joker just shows up at the start of the film with the cut-smile already in place.

 

[gwynplaine]

I wonder if the vat of chemical will be featured in BC. So far i still prefer TKJ, Bolland is one of my favourite artist and his Joker is just amazing, but i like that there are multiple origin stories for the Joker none of them being really canon.

 

[Capt. Jack]

I thought it was really, really, stupid. Easily the worst part of an otherwise good arc. Batman's reason for doing it was bloody ridiculous: "I have the time to hurl a weapon at him; I'm going to intentionally wound him, to remind him we're not finished! I could just try to DISABLE him, so he can be captured, but that would just make too much sense!"

If Batman had attempted to disable him and failed--resulting in the gash--that would have been fine. Instead, the writer decided to do something stupid. The worst part was that Batman made sure to point out "I'm not trying to stop him, just wound him, to piss him off!" Yeah, brilliant.

I completely agree that it was stupid for him to do it just to send the will be joker a message when it could have been an attempt to stop him or to directly kill him which would have been pretty insane but great

but i still love that he gives the scar the way he does mmmmhmmm

 

[MechaOrga]

hmmmmmm

1-Morrison writes joker with scars on face and mouth

2-Lee Bermejo(sp?) draws two infamous joker pics with scars on face

3-IBIHD pic shows joker with gashes on mouth

4-Batman Confidential toutes story as being definitive joker origin and features batman gashing joker's face creating broad smile.

This is not a coincidence IMO.

This is calculated and thought out. whether its coming from Nolan/goyer/jonah or bob shrek and morrison is my question.

They want to re-do the joker's look to have a flow between film and comics.

I bet the TPB will be out and advertised just in time for TDK

IMO

 

[GypsyCatcher]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au2KIwMzmh4


Whatever happens I just hope they have a scene like this in the movie
(its from Pan's Labyrinth) when I saw this I was like "Holy **** I hope Nolan does something just like this in the dark knight!"

 

[Luchastyle]

yeah. that pan scene is great. some of the best cg i've ever seen. that looks so awesome. i'd like to see something like that in tdk as well.

 

[Starbird]

Well since my computer blows...can someone describe which scene of 'Pan's Labyrinth' your speaking of?

 

[Luchastyle]

a guy gets his cheek slashed. so the scene is, he is looking in the mirror, stitching his cheek back together (it's a slash like the joker may have gotten in TDK). but it looks so real as he stitches his face up. and another cool thing is right afterwards he puts some gauze over the stitches, and then takes a drink of whiskey, or scotch or something, and it burns him, and you can see the blood/scotch soak through the gauze. really cool.

 

[Starbird]

Yeah....that would be amazing to see on TDK...(thanks for the description)

 

[Luchastyle]

no problem

 

[Monster]

I think Chuck Norris gave The Joker his scars.

Chuck Norris died 10 years ago, the reaper hasn't had the guts to tell him yet.

 

[StorminNorman]

In the discussion of "which Joker origin do you prefer" - I enjoy Burton's origin more than Moore's or any other I have read/seen/interpreted by killing small animals.

 

[Kakihara]

So, people are saying the new retconned look for Joker everywhere is really going to be a ripoff of Kakihara...really?

 

[roach]

hmmmmmm

1-Morrison writes joker with scars on face and mouth

2-Lee Bermejo(sp?) draws two infamous joker pics with scars on face

3-IBIHD pic shows joker with gashes on mouth

4-Batman Confidential toutes story as being definitive joker origin and features batman gashing joker's face creating broad smile.

This is not a coincidence IMO.

This is calculated and thought out. whether its coming from Nolan/goyer/jonah or bob shrek and morrison is my question.

They want to re-do the joker's look to have a flow between film and comics.

I bet the TPB will be out and advertised just in time for TDK

IMO

wont be the first time DC changed costumes to fit the movies. Batman went to an all black costume for a while when the Burton movie came out

 

[jezza]

So, people are saying the new retconned look for Joker everywhere is really going to be a ripoff of Kakihara...really?

I would doubt we would see Joker smoking through holes in his cheeks though, or having his lips safety pinned together.

I think it's just to add a sadistic smile to his face, representing the pain he causes with his smile.

 

[spanish39]

The only difference between TKJ and BC is that in TKJ hs says he's not to sure if thats even how it went basiclly. In BC we getting the story as it happens, no flashbacks. This I feel will be closer to a true origin. Also if you remember back during Gotham Knights they started to delv deep into Joker's origins based off TKJ. He was even about to go and uhnt down the cop named Oscar who had something to do with killing his family to make him have no regrets about pulling the hiest. They also continue the comedien story angle and the Riddler is involved somehow. Then the comic was completly scrapped along with that sotry arc and everything that went with it, hell even the Hush and Jason Todd has no barring on what ois currently happening in Countdown, they never mention that Todd was pretty much dead and that Batman killed him, with a batarang if I remember correctly.

Now this is why I prefer going with what they are giving me currently in BC, it's happening in real time so to speak. Maybe they will come along in a few more years with some new angle but if it coincides with BC then you have to kind of accept that BC is being dubbed as more official then the rest of the nagle previously concieved. If Joker thinks he remembers it all happening a certain way then maybe this is how it really happened and he chooses to remember he was forced to do things instead of wanting to do things, or, maybe he was feeding Batman a plate load of bullsh*it for fun to try and get old batsy all sympathetic for him, who knows, use your imagination, but don't just turn down BC cause you don't agree with the writing or the art. Let the story finish and see why the writing is going the way it, why Bruce has made the choises he has. I never said it will be great, but it may be what is considered an actaul version of the Jokers origins finally.

In comci world we are getting all these origins in DC and MARVEL, Joker and wolverine. Stories we thought we would never get, so maybe this Joker story is legit, only time will tell guys.

 

[The Redux 714]

I would doubt we would see Joker smoking through holes in his cheeks though, or having his lips safety pinned together.

I think it's just to add a sadistic smile to his face, representing the pain he causes with his smile.

Post = 10 for 10.

 

[Batman18]

That BC #9 is garbage. I can't believe DC. You think they would get top notch talent to handle a storyline such as The Joker's origin. That art is disgusting & the writing is just crap.

 

[StorminNorman]

I believe Azzarello and Bermejo are also writing a Joker story (I think) told from his perspective - which could also give insight (I assume) about his past.

I believe they described it as Lex Luthor Man of Steel for Mister J.

 

[CaptainClown]

That BC #9 is garbage. I can't believe DC. You think they would get top notch talent to handle a storyline such as The Joker's origin. That art is disgusting & the writing is just crap.

I'll admit at times the art seems bad especially how jokers eyes look like

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[jimmy]

Wasn't the dude from Wetworks doing the art?

 

[CaptainClown]

I'm not sure, he sure doesn't do gore though, it didn't feel like he really cut Jokers face just gave him a small cut.

 

[jimmy]

Nah, he only did the first 6 issues.

 

[luke1234]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au2KIwMzmh4

that scene is great, and that movie kicks ass i hope jokers scars are something like that. I think theyre self inflicted as well.