The Dark Knight Stax dissects The Dark Knight

[Syncos]

Which....still makes him a thief. Except in this case he also kills. Which really, I mean a lot of thieves kill anyway to get what they want.

But he's not just a common theif. this is essentially joker saying "i'm going to kill someone tonight. i dare you to try and stop me" and that's what makes it awesome.

 

[Crooklyn]

Oh I know he isn't a common thief, just saying that the act of murder doesn't take away from him still being a thief.

I too like the fact that Joker is teasing the cops by making announcements, I'd prefer if he didn't steal in the process however. To me it'd make him more evil if his sole focus was revenge (like STAX implies), and he leaves the luxuries in tact, when he clearly could've stolen them.

 

[Aquaman]

I hope thats not true. I dont want Two-Face to be the climactic villian
And if it isnt Two-face for the third movie what villian could top both Joker and Two-Face?

I think it could be interesting for TDK to not end on a cliffhanger, but just have the story still continue to the third.

I would love to see TDK have the story revolve around the Joker...and then when the third one comes around it has a story more focused on Harvey/Two Face. You could easily have other villains and what-not, but those two characters would be the focus, besides batman/bruce of course.

The third one should (or at least, I'd find it interesting) if it ended something like this:

Batman and Two face have some sort of showdown. After defeating Two Face, Batman manages to bring Harvey back, even if its momentarily. It gives Batman that hope. That feeling he's succeeded somewhat, and then The Joker makes his final appearance. He kills Harvey in front of Batman and manages to escape. The third film could end with the Joker still at large, and Bruce, although devastated still feels there's more he has to do. He knows the Joker will be back, and gotham still needs saving.

I picture a funeral scene at the end, and afterwards Bruce is talking to Alfred. Alfred asks him what he's going to do now, and Bruce responds "Gotham still needs to be protected." Then it shows Batman on a rooftop, the batsignal appears in the air and he shoots the grapple and swings toward the signal.

Of course...it wouldn't be written so lame or sucky. Just what I came up while sitting here.

 

[Crooklyn]

Two-Face is one of Batman's most iconic villains. He should NEVER be killed off.

 

[zer00]

You know we really don't know if Joker will be a thief and murderer. Since the whole Joker 5 way revenge thing and TKJ is still inspirations and I'm sure other things. He could just be a Joker that announces what he'll do as a dare ala original Joker and The Zodiac killer(who said he;d do many things simply to cause panic) that doesn't have to do with stealing per-se. A combination of pre crisis and post crisis. Which IMO would be perfect.

That's how I believe the Joker will be anyway.

 

[saint sinner x]

It makes perfect sense if the sequel will be anything or simular to the stax report. Let's contemplate for a bit here at the end of batman begins, Gordon said to Batman "ARMED ROBBERY double homicide" I believe the operative word is ROBBERY. Also if penguin is in fact going to be an arms dealer it would fit in perfectly if the Joker tries to heist some weapons and go rambo jumbo on Gotham City's citizens ahahhahahahaha hell yea man this movie is going to rock and kick mayor ass!!!. Also it can leave a very interesting character connection to selena kyle and the joker. If TDK will turn out ot be the way staxx report's speculating, then all it needs is to be Nolanized and we will have a classic rising above....

 

[Babs Gordon]

i'm with you. it's got potential, but the robbery-murder spree seems too small scale. and while i don't want an attack on the city a la gas, etc., i would like to have the intense psychological battle between batman and joker- something personal and angry, along with Joker's outrageous frightening self. he sounds too tame in the early comics.

at this stage, i'm not quite sure it could be mutually personal. if the joker pulls something on batman, perhaps. but what makes it personal for the joker are the repeated defeats, the sudden failures of plans all due to the batman. basically at this stage we don't have that. i'm down with him just being a wee bit off his rocker... completely unintimidated by batman.

 

[Bat Brain]

Interesting article, that would definitely make for an exciting storyline for The Dark Knight. Hopefully they won't follow it too closely though, not sure if I'd like a direct adaption.

 

[metkalfe]

Exactly. Well-done but I still like to be surprised watching TDK not expecting every twist and turn of the sequel.

 

[zer00]

It makes perfect sense if the sequel will be anything or simular to the stax report. Let's contemplate for a bit here at the end of batman begins, Gordon said to Batman "ARMED ROBBERY double homicide" I believe the operative word is ROBBERY.

You say that like Joker has never stolen anything post crisis

 

[Hades]

Awesome. This is going to be such a cool interpertation of the character, I can't wait to see how it turns out. I really like how much darker the Joker sounds like in those earlier comics. I'm so excited.

 

[Cinemaman]

Good read, thanx Babs

 

[The Shape]

Great article that get's you eve more pumped for the film.

I'm really liking the way the Joker is sounding, but he won't be as integreal to the story as this article makes it seem. Remember, he only appears at about half-way through TDK. The rest of the story focuses around the mob and Batman and such. But the article nailed the fact that once the Joker comes into play, he'll disrupt the business of the mob and all hell will break loose.

Should be awesome.

 

[thedarks0ldier]

i'm down with him just being a wee bit off his rocker... completely unintimidated by batman.

This got me 50% more hyped, because I dont think Batman would be intimidated by the Joker either, so it would be a test of skills and wits.

 

[Babs Gordon]

It would take a real nut not to be intimidated by Bale's bat.

 

[Babs Gordon]

Ra's being the exception because he knows who he is and trained him himself.

 

[Crooklyn]

I'm really liking the way the Joker is sounding, but he won't be as integreal to the story as this article makes it seem. Remember, he only appears at about half-way through TDK. The rest of the story focuses around the mob and Batman and such.

Interesting. So tell me, how did the general public like the film when you watched TDK in the year 2008?

 

[The Shape]

Interesting. So tell me, how did the general public like the film when you watched TDK in the year 2008?

Well, if you were trying to be funny, you failed. If you were trying to be a *****e, then good job.

What I said is based on relatively known plot points that you can find in news reports from BOF. Go find them, *****e. They're around here somewhere.

 

[Crooklyn]

Well, if you were trying to be funny, you failed. If you were trying to be a *****e, then good job.

What I said is based on relatively known plot points that you can find in news reports from BOF. Go find them, *****e. They're around here somewhere.

Known plot points. News reports. You use these words as if WB themselves put them out in official statements. BOF reports rumors, most of which don't even come to pass. To spout these "rumored" plot points as fact, holds no merit. That was pretty much my point.

Thanks for the hilarity though. Ironic how you call me a *****e, yet you're the one resorting to name-calling when I simply asked a question in jest.

 

[The Shape]

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Known plot points. News reports. You use these words as if WB themselves put them out in official statements. BOF reports rumors, most of which don't even come to pass. To spout these "rumored" plot points as fact, holds no merit. That was pretty much my point.

Thanks for the hilarity though. Ironic how you call me a *****e, yet you're the one resorting to name-calling when I simply asked a question in jest.

*sigh*

Not much is known about TDK, but there are a few plot points that were revealed that go together with what David Goyer has said about the film. In fact, he may have said these things himself. I don't recall.

But there was talk of Roman Sionis (Black Mask) and another big mobster that are involved in taking control of Gotham while it's still in ruins from the events of BB. Now I'm paraphrasing here, but I believe Goyer or someone said something like this: while all this [business of the mob and such] is going down, "no one realized there was a Joker in the deck that complicates matters". Who remembers this?

Now, that was reported months ago and goes perfectly well with what was speculated in this article. I'm sure other users who were around for this can back me up.

If you'd like to pretend like you won't believe anything until the WB confirms it, then have a good time.

Spoiler

*****e.

 

[Babs Gordon]

relax everyone. weeeeeeeee the movie's coming!

 

[StorminNorman]

We need one of those Months. Days. Minutes. Seconds. Countdowns

 

[Crooklyn]

*sigh*

Not much is known about TDK, but there are a few plot points that were revealed that go together with what David Goyer has said about the film. In fact, he may have said these things himself. I don't recall.

Goyer hasn't said much about the storyline to TDK. As I recall, it's only been Nolan.

As for the plot points that Nolan mentioned "things getter worse before getting better", those were all addressed in the STAX report. Those are definitely likely scenarious. However, I do not think Joker being a low-key role as BOF reported, is.

But there was talk of Roman Sionis (Black Mask) and another big mobster that are involved in taking control of Gotham while it's still in ruins from the events of BB. Now I'm paraphrasing here, but I believe Goyer or someone said something like this: while all this [business of the mob and such] is going down, "no one realized there was a Joker in the deck that complicates matters". Who remembers this?

I'm pretty sure that's a quote from Jett's source. Someone feel free to correct me on this if I'm wrong.

If you'd like to pretend like you won't believe anything until the WB confirms it, then have a good time.

And if you'd like to pretend everything BOF reports as gospel, I hope you weren't too disappointed when BB didn't involve The Reaper, his daughter Rachel, Batman traveling to Egypt, or the infamous Egghead.

Spoiler

*****e.

Haha, that totally caught me off guard. How clever of you.

 

[Bathead]

Shape, I was around as you say, and most of what you claim has NOT been conifrimed by anyone official. You're using words like "I believe", "may have been said by Goyer, I don't recall", " I believe Goyer or someone said something like this : ", in other words, you DON"T KNOW! All those things you claim are definite were only rumors reported by BOF, nothing more.
Get off your high horse.

 

[Dark Knight]

Nothing really interesting here. Stax is just giving his take in trying to piece together the potential plot of TDK. Something we have been doing here for sometime now. It's obvious that Joker will be murdering people.....and that the potential candidates will be...

Loeb
Flass
Sal Maroni
Rachel Dawes (if not kill her but hurt her severely)
Gilda Dent
Gordon or Gordons wife

then in the end during his trial.....he will probably scar Dent.