Joker ??

[MGilhuly14]

Nolan has stated that he will go back to the Joker's first appearence "Batman #1 1940" to use as a guideline of how the Joker will be in TDK. What's the deal with this comic? I don't even know what age this comic is in. What's the Joker like? Is this a good issue to base the Joker off of?

 

[CConn]

You don't know the age of of "Batman #1 1940"?

 

[MGilhuly14]

Assuming the Golden Age but I'm not an expert on the Pre Crisis period thus the reason I asked the question. If your not going to help why even bother posting?

 

[CConn]

Assuming the Golden Age but I'm not an expert on the Pre Crisis period thus the reason I asked the question.

You're asking where it takes place in Batman's current continuity? It doesn't. However, the story The Man Who Laughs is based on it, and that is in Batman's post-crisis history.

If your not going to help why even bother posting?

Actuallly, immediately after posting, I asked a friend who has read Batman #1 (personally, I haven't yet) about it for you, and he had this to say...

He's more of a grinning mass murderer who taunts his victims by announcing he's going to kill them, then succeeding in doing so, even if the victim is guarded by a police squad. Given that the issue jumpstarted The Joker as one of the leading icons in comic book supervillian history, I'd say... yes, it's a good issue to base The Joker off of.

You can say thank you now.

 

[zer00]

You're asking where it takes place in Batman's current continuity? It doesn't. However, the story The Man Who Laughs is based on it, and that is in Batman's post-crisis history.
Actuallly, immediately after posting, I asked a friend who has read Batman #1 (personally, I haven't yet) about it for you, and he had this to say...
You can say thank you now.

And with his sword back in the sheath

the warrior travels farther

 

[zer00]

Assuming the Golden Age but I'm not an expert on the Pre Crisis period thus the reason I asked the question. If your not going to help why even bother posting?

Well Batman appeared in 1939

so I'd say it was the golden age.

 

[MGilhuly14]

Thank you and I apologize

 

[CConn]

The Conn works in mysterious ways.

 

[MGilhuly14]

Actually while I'm at it what's up with the Pre Crisis period? I've tried several times to understand it but it's still unclear (probably because I havn't read many of them) Is each age a different universe? Does the golden Age have earth 1, silver age earth 2 etc.? Is it similar to marvel's ultimate series?

And as far as the joker goes he's basically how he is now in the continuity then? That's at least the impression I got.

 

[zer00]

Around the 80's DC had something called CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTH'S

Basically post crisis is Earth-2

Most of the Earth-1(pre crisis) character died in this story and were replaced by Earth-2. Though still sharing some of the same stories. But most different origins or slightly altered ones. Superman never breathing kryptonian air for instance was his post crisis origin.

I may have the Earth's backwards though but it doesn't matter

 

[MGilhuly14]

So what's the difference between Golden Age and Silver Age comics? I thought the result of the crisis was that storyline all started over and that there was no more earth 1 or 2

 

[zer00]

The difference is age. Golden Age, Silver Age, Bronze Age.

It's just the age of the comics.

Action comics #1 is golden age

Green Lantern/GreenArrow #1 Silver Age

blah blah

I was always under the impression some stories were kept "in continuity" so they didn't have to redo like every heroes first encounter with a villian etc. Though some were redone. Like Two-Face's origin.

 

[CConn]

Actually while I'm at it what's up with the Pre Crisis period? I've tried several times to understand it but it's still unclear (probably because I havn't read many of them) Is each age a different universe? Does the golden Age have earth 1, silver age earth 2 etc.? Is it similar to marvel's ultimate series?

It's, um, actually really hard to explain. Here's a pretty therough and well written explaination of it. It's a quite long, but I got what I needed to know just by breezing through it...

http://www.io.com/~woodward/chroma/crisis.html

And as far as the joker goes he's basically how he is now in the continuity then? That's at least the impression I got.

I'm looking at the issue now myself, and I would say pretty much, yeah, he's the way he is now. A lot less flamboyant, but he has his usual modus operandis and such. If anything, I'd say he's more creepy than comical in the issue.

 

[CConn]

I was always under the impression some stories were kept "in continuity" so they didn't have to redo like every heroes first encounter with a villian etc. Though some were redone. Like Two-Face's origin.

Yeah, I think so. Mostly all of them have been rewritten by now, though.

 

[The Joker]

It's, um, actually really hard to explain. Here's a pretty therough and well written explaination of it. It's a quite long, but I got what I needed to know just by breezing through it...

http://www.io.com/~woodward/chroma/crisis.html

Thank you CConn.

This pre and post crisis stuff often confused me. I never knew what the heck it meant. That article there explained it nicely

 

[MrZombay]

Blegh, I just ignore all that crisis universe stuff.

To me its much more satisfying to read something like "The Man Who Laughs" or "Year One" and view it as our real world.

Not thinking about all these earths and crap.

 

[CConn]

Then you're missing out on quite a bit of excellently written comics.

 

[Kool-Aid]

He should just go by the man who laughs, its a better retelling of that issue.

 

[CConn]

I do seriously wonder why they are using Batman #1 instead of TMWL. Maybe they felt the characterization was a bit more serious in Batman #1?

 

[The Sage]

They should use both. Maybe since TMWL is fairly new, Nolan doesn't know about it.