Joss Whedon developing Marvel SHIELD series for ABC

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So, odds are we'll see some iteration of HYDRA in the series as major villains. How would you guys like to see them handled? Whedon has some very strong anti-corproate/anti-authority leanings, so the version where HYDRA's terrorist actions are largely a smokescreen to distract from them infiltrating and co-opting the political forces that actually run SHIELD seems like a likely interpretation to me. And I think I'd like that. What do you guys think?
 
Does the show really need a chief character, though? I mean, couldn't it be about a bunch of grunt field agents who get orders from cold, distant authority figures?
Yeah, the leader(s) should be the movie characters, off doing their movie stuff, guest starring now and then.

There are a ton of grunt-type characters you can base the show around: Sitwell, Quartermain, Danvers, Woo, Morse, etc. And nothing's really stopping them from coming up with their own agents as they see fit.
 
Does the show really need a chief character, though? I mean, couldn't it be about a bunch of grunt field agents who get orders from cold, distant authority figures?

That could work, but then you're missing one of the key dynamics of a show like this. The "chief" character plays many important story roles: the exposition, a mechanism to explain the episode's premise to the audience; a source of additional pressure on the lead protaganist, to provide rules to either guide the hero or for the hero to break.

I guess it can be like Mission Impossible TV series, where the uber-boss is never seen. But I will miss the wonderful cliche of (let's say) Amy Acker's Abby being chewed out: "One more slip-up like that, and you're off the team!" :mad:

"Now get outta here! And don't think of going anywhere near this case! Aggravatin' my sciatica ..."
 
Whedon's going to cast Acker as Brand. It'll happen.

I can see him bringing in Enver Gjokaj from Dollhouse as well. With his ability to essentially be a human mimic, he could fit in perfectly to a spy show. Heck, a lot of the Dollhouse crew could easily be transported over into this. Fran Kanz at the techie. Reed Diamond as the hard ass officer (thought I think he's got another show). Dichen Lachman and Tahmoh Penikett could both work as officers as well.
 
I'm pretty excited for this show already!
 
STRIKE is just SHIELD with British accents. I'm pretty sure SHIELD is an international organization in the MCU, so that might be redundant.

MI-13, on the other hand, would be neat.

Now MI-13 is a good idea. The MCU needs to venture out into the wider world at some point. But wouldn't Pete Wisdom be owned by Fox?
 
Now MI-13 is a good idea. The MCU needs to venture out into the wider world at some point. But wouldn't Pete Wisdom be owned by Fox?

Maybe? There's a lot of gray area as to what does and does not count as an X-Men property.
 
I would like to see this series venture out into the larger MCU world and meet characters like Union Jack, Spitfire, Shang-Chi, Pete Wisdom, maybe even Captain Britain....
 
Who do you guys think are candidates for big story arc villains?

HYDRA is a pretty obvious choice and will almost certainly be making appearances.

Of course, there's the HYDRA agents we'd see. Baron Strucker and Madam HYDRA seem pretty likely. Bob: Agent of HYDRA would be super fun as well. :woot:

The Yellow Claw (or The Golden Claw, as he's been calling himself lately for reasons of being less racist) is a possibility if they tone down the more racially insensitive elements. Maybe make him a Chinese super spy who serves as the Chinese liaison to SHIELD but also has his own agenda and is sort of a sometimes friend/sometimes enemy kind of rival to the main characters.

Count Nefaria and the Maggia are a possibility. Nefaria's kind of a boring bad guy before he gets his power up, but I could see Whedon and co. making him work. They'd probably tie his getting powers in with HYDRA, like getting access to their technology in exchange for giving HYDRA a foothold in American organized crime.

The Zodiac are also potentially really fun bad guys, especially if they amp up the occultist/masonic thing they have going on to differentiate them from HYDRA.
 
I really hope this show is set aboard the Helicarrier, similar to Star Trek. Instead of alien worlds, they could investigate superhero related stuff. Maybe a few big characters (Stark, Fury, Cap, etc) popping in from time to time. Fringe would be a good comparison in terms of tone/humor.
 
If they choose to set it before the events of the films, then Coulson should be involved. Fury should probably pop up briefly once every couple of episodes. If Tony Stark is to be involved at all, I can't see it being more than a season premiere/finale cameo.
 
I hope we see a prison and have a glimpse of some of its inmates. Maybe see Abomination in there.
 
Who do you guys think are candidates for big story arc villains?

HYDRA is a pretty obvious choice and will almost certainly be making appearances.

Of course, there's the HYDRA agents we'd see. Baron Strucker and Madam HYDRA seem pretty likely. Bob: Agent of HYDRA would be super fun as well. :woot:

The Yellow Claw (or The Golden Claw, as he's been calling himself lately for reasons of being less racist) is a possibility if they tone down the more racially insensitive elements. Maybe make him a Chinese super spy who serves as the Chinese liaison to SHIELD but also has his own agenda and is sort of a sometimes friend/sometimes enemy kind of rival to the main characters.

Count Nefaria and the Maggia are a possibility. Nefaria's kind of a boring bad guy before he gets his power up, but I could see Whedon and co. making him work. They'd probably tie his getting powers in with HYDRA, like getting access to their technology in exchange for giving HYDRA a foothold in American organized crime.

The Zodiac are also potentially really fun bad guys, especially if they amp up the occultist/masonic thing they have going on to differentiate them from HYDRA.

I think HYDRA are a definite. HYDRA should, in fact, become a common element in the TV show as well as the movies, especially Cap's sequel(s). Even AIM. I see AIM and HYDRA working hand in glove, anyway.

I'd really, really like to see SWORD play a role in this, too, though, and see the beginnings of Kree and Skrull expansionism into Earth. Maybe covertly at first, a la X-Files, but eventually the MCU has to address the fact that alien civilizations exist, and Earth is going to have to decide its role in a larger universe --- form alliances, remain isolationist, just stick their heads in the sand and hope the Avengers can defend them again when things get too out of hand....???
 
I can see him bringing in Enver Gjokaj from Dollhouse as well.
That is the one Whedonverse actor I sincerely hope gets cast on the show. I mean, I'd be fine with others, too, but really want Enver to get on here. I think he's easily one of the most talented actors from ANY Whedon show, and he's the one who could use the career boost the most.

And yes, I know he was seen as a cop already in The Avengers, but who's to say that cop wasn't recruited by SHIELD afterward or something. I mean, I doubt anyone would care if he were simply cast as another character in the same universe, either.
 
Who do you guys think are candidates for big story arc villains?

HYDRA is a pretty obvious choice and will almost certainly be making appearances.

Of course, there's the HYDRA agents we'd see. Baron Strucker and Madam HYDRA seem pretty likely. Bob: Agent of HYDRA would be super fun as well. :woot:

She's an X-Men property, unfortunately. She's going to be in The Wolverine next year.
 
It seems unlikely, but the Skrulls could be used to some degree in the series since they won't be in the Avengers sequel.
 
SMG should have given birth by the time they get around to filming this pilot so it would be great if she and Joss reunited.
 
She's an X-Men property, unfortunately. She's going to be in The Wolverine next year.

Correction: a VERSION of Viper is going to be in The Wolverine.

There's actually several Vipers. And the Madam HYDRA version is NOT on Fox's roster....she's part of Marvel Studios. That was already discussed by Feige a few months ago.
 
And yes, I know he was seen as a cop already in The Avengers, but who's to say that cop wasn't recruited by SHIELD afterward or something. I mean, I doubt anyone would care if he were simply cast as another character in the same universe, either.

Actually, that would be pretty cool if it was the same character. Like after meeting Captain America and after the Chitauri battle, he was inspired to sign up for SHIELD or something. Or maybe SHIELD recruits him, after witnessing his valour on the battlefield, and as the organization is introduced to him he becomes the audience avatar.
 
I think if they do this series similar to ALIAS with a mix of 24 threats this series could work on ABC.
 
Actually, that would be pretty cool if it was the same character. Like after meeting Captain America and after the Chitauri battle, he was inspired to sign up for SHIELD or something. Or maybe SHIELD recruits him, after witnessing his valour on the battlefield, and as the organization is introduced to him he becomes the audience avatar.

Good idea.
 
There should be at least one episode just focusing on the Galaga playing agent.
 
That leaves one last character that's important for this kind of show: the "chief" or authority figure. Assuming that Fury and Hill are out of the question, I guess this will be presented as some kind of regional director, who reports to Fury or Hill offscreen. I guess GW Bridge belongs to the X-men franchise, otherwise he'd be a good choice. Not sure who could play that role, as my SHIELD knowledge is pretty much exhausted at this point.
The "chief" character plays many important story roles: the exposition, a mechanism to explain the episode's premise to the audience; a source of additional pressure on the lead protaganist, to provide rules to either guide the hero or for the hero to break.

I've always felt that the Marvel Cinematic Universe takes its cues more from the Ultimate universe than the main comic universe. In which case, what about Captain Carol Danvers a.k.a. Miss Marvel as the boss character? In the Ultimate-verse, Danvers is a regular human and SHIELD operative who held the director position after Fury. Plus, it would be fitting that Miss Marvel headlined Marvel's first real foray into TV-land.


Also, instead of an ALIAS-esque story that everyone seems to be going for, here's my pitch for a SHIELD series:

It takes place shortly after the events of The Avengers. New York is still a mess, in the midst of reconstruction, and superpowered nutjobs are on the loose trying to take advantage of the chaos to carve themselves a little piece of NYC. The police are outmatched and the army can't intervene on home ground short of a full-scale war. Homeland Security's response? Deploying the Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division a.k.a. SHIELD. The New York task force is led by Agent Carol Danvers. Enver Gjokaj's character also returns as a police officer who is acting as a liaison between the police and SHIELD.

The first season will focus on the recovery of New York following the Chitauri invasion. Director Danvers is tasked with restoring order with regards to superhuman threats. She feels their activities are a little too organised and conveniently timed, instead wondering if there is a connection between them and Loki's allies from the Helicarrier attack. Meaning, along with the monster-of-the-week setup, there are some investigative/espionage bits thrown in as well.

Along with all the classic superhero stuff, the show could also touch on the human aspects following a major disaster. At first, the people are happy and thankful for SHIELD's (I mean, 'Homeland Security') presence. But as weeks stretch to months and over a year with the superhuman threats still ongoing, civil unrest develops. Especially when they find out of the advanced weapons that SHIELD developed from the Tesseract that could potentially solve the problem overnight if distributed to the civilian population.

In the season one finale, Danvers is critically injured after getting hit by a car during a battle with the season's Big Bad. Her replacement, Marvin Flumm (Danver's actual replacement in the Ultimate-verse but also the name of a supervillain in the main universe) is much more shortsighted and doesn't/refuses to see the link between the New York supervillains and SHIELD's enemies. Needless to say, he doesn't mesh well with the team who are still loyal to Danvers. In the end, Flumm (or someone else, with Flumm as a red herring) is found to be a mole and this discovery forms the first link between the supervillains and HYDRA.

Also, Danvers at some point recovers from her injuries and in addition, briefly gains super powers (taking on the alter ego identity of Miss Marvel?) but this is in the end stolen by a certain unidentified individual with the ability to steal other people's powers (essentially, a lawyer-friendly version of Rogue).
 
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^ I like Carol Danvers, but I'd rather see her in the films rather than the lower-budget TV show.
 
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