The Amazing Spider-Man Keep the ORGANICS or WEB SHOOTERS???!!!!

[Crook]

I should get out because I'm one of the few that actually liked the organic webbing? Its called an opinion

You should get out before someone attempts to break down how absolutely ******ed the last few "arguments" you've just made are.

I have absolutely no problem conversing with those of the opposite opinion, as evidenced by my participation in this thread with about 5 other people.

 

[Backdrifter]

Like I said, the webbing always dissolved after an hour. Have fun building a suspension bridge that dissolves an hour later.

Wait, so no only does he manage to create a synthetic spider-silk formula be he also manages to make formulate it with rapid decaying properties?



Sorry, it is much easier for me to believe his genetic make is altered which causes him to develop spider-like properties.

 

[Closerframe]

You should get out before someone attempts to break down how absolutely ******ed the last few "arguments" you've just made are.

I have absolutely no problem conversing with those of the opposite opinion, as evidenced by my participation in this thread with about 5 other people.

My first post and those that followed it were never meant to begin an argument, I was merely placing my ballot in the voting process, and decided to comment on what I wanted. It wasn't necessary for you to assert nor claim that my few "arguments" were absolutely ******ed because I didn't come into this forum writing paragraphs upon paragraphs of how web shooters are the way to go. Sorry to disappoint you.

 

[Nathan]

Wait, so no only does he manage to create a synthetic spider-silk formula be he also manages to make formulate it with rapid decaying properties?

It's because the formular is not perfect. It's not 100% natural Spider-silk, he had to create it with chemicals available to him. The fast decaying properties are something he hasn't intended.

Sorry, it is much easier for me to believe his genetic make is altered which causes him to develop spider-like properties.

And no one said stick 100% with the classic comic book Origin. The Ultimate comics came up with a more plausible scenario and there are still other ways the webbing can be created without him coming up with the formular out of thin air.

 

[Crook]

My first post and those that followed it were never meant to begin an argument, I was merely placing my ballot in the voting process, and decided to comment on what I wanted. It wasn't necessary for you to assert nor claim that my few "arguments" were absolutely ******ed because I didn't come into this forum writing paragraphs upon paragraphs of how web shooters are the way to go. Sorry to disappoint you.

There's nothing to disappoint, I was trying to help you out before you dug yourself too big of a hole. The quality of one's position has nothing to do with the variable length it takes to explain it.

I find the critique of "but we'll have to see him reload it over and over again!" pretty humorous. I would think it's obvious to anyone that a director shows only what needs to be shown, as this is not a documentary piece detailing every maneuver Peter makes (hence my pee-break joke). The times which his webshooters fail him, or how he refills the cartridges need only be served sparingly where appropriate.

 

[Closerframe]

There's nothing to disappoint, I was trying to help you out before you dug yourself too big of a hole. The quality of one's position has nothing to do with the variable length it takes to explain it.

I find the critique of "but we'll have to see him reload it over and over again!" pretty humorous. I would think it's obvious to anyone that a director shows only what needs to be shown, as this is not a documentary piece detailing every maneuver Peter makes (hence my pee-break joke). The times which his webshooters fail him, or how he refills the cartridges need only be served sparingly where appropriate.

There is something called sarcasm, I know the writers aren't stupid enough to do such a thing to show each time Parker needs new webs he'll run off screen to do so. They aren't 20th Century Fox. Thanks for the help though.

 

[Bruce Malone]

For a common ground i like the idea someone brought up of peter's spider webbing being organic but needing a contraption to focus the webbing for it to be usefull.

 

[Alex The Great]

Oh Boy



anyways, I wouldn't MIND web shooters, heck, after watching Spectacular Spider-Man, I kind of prefer it, but as long as they don't make it look too corny and stuff.

 

[The IronMan]

I like the idea of a mechanical device to help Peter have a more versital way of controling his organic webbing

 

[Shockdingo]

New direction, new start. I'm all for the mechanical ones, I was fine with the organic ones, but this time, I want to see his scientific mind represented in other ways as well.

 

[Dr Tactics]

Wow, I haven't been here since 2003. I came back to post my ballot and bounce cause these arguments have been done to death. I've always wanted Mech-Shooters cause THATS SPIDER-MAN(PETER) I've always known. One person James Cameron say's lets make them Organic and Raimi agrees and "poof" 40+ years of Comics are UNBELIEVABLE?? Comics require SUSPENSION OF BELIEF so all debates for or against is only a matter of personal preference and logically has no place. It all makes sense and they both don't make sense. I hope they Go mech anyway if not to separate from the previous series and hope they steer more towards the USM route.

I'm out till 2012!!

 

[Mach2Infinity]

I would much prefer if they use organic web shooters. To change it to artificial web shooters would simply be to purposely be different from the other films and is no more than superficial. If Peter Parker is going to gain a spider's abilities then he should have all of them or none at all.

 

[samsnee]

I want it to be organic just to keep the story focused on big picture. Plus, in every incarnation aside from the movies, Parker always runs out of fluid at some pivotal moment. I can see some lazy writer using this same plot device in the movie.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

I like the explaination the 90's Animated series gave as to how Peter could created a web-fluid formula. 'When the spider bit him, it transfered the knowledge of how to combine different enzymes to make the web-fluid'...from the episode 'Make a Wish" -Season 3.

This.

 

[Alex The Great]

This.

Sucks

I mean, gains knowledge from the Spider? What the flying ****?

 

[Crook]

I would much prefer if they use organic web shooters. To change it to artificial web shooters would simply be to purposely be different from the other films and is no more than superficial.

Or, you know, follow every other interpretation that has stayed with the mechanical shooters for the better part of the character's life. Just saying.

If Peter Parker is going to gain a spider's abilities then he should have all of them or none at all.

It's not an ability, per se, as much as it is a biological need and function. If you're to take the stance Peter needs to be physiologically altered to have spinnerets, then the "all or nothing" principle demands Peter actually resemble more of a spider than he does a man.

Sucks

I mean, gains knowledge from the Spider? What the flying ****?

How's that spider-sense going?

 

[Spectacular23]

Web shooters all the way. I have always want to see how the Web shooters will work on film. If they do use it i think it will make the film more interesting. PLUS with the film going back with him being in high school there like a 70% chance of him using web shooters.

 

[Golgo-13]

Sucks

I mean, gains knowledge from the Spider? What the flying ****?

But passing along the ability for a 150lb man to grow tiny hairs on his finger tips, enabling him to cling to walls, through his costume and boots, is just fine...

 

[SamuraiSon6]

organic, i like the more "super" aspect of it, thats all, simple

 

[Mach2Infinity]

Or, you know, follow every other interpretation that has stayed with the mechanical shooters for the better part of the character's life. Just saying.

The film doesn't need to slavishly follow the comics in every single mintue detail. The omission of artificial web shooters will not peturb film-goers to the same degree that a lack of plot/characterisation would do. In the grand scheme of things, it is a inconsequential and a superficial element.

It's not an ability, per se, as much as it is a biological need and function. If you're to take the stance Peter needs to be physiologically altered to have spinnerets, then the "all or nothing" principle demands Peter actually resemble more of a spider than he does a man.

I said if Peter Parker is to acquire/inherit spider abilities (rather than have his physiology mutated) from a spider bite then it simply makes sense he would be able to secrete web and 'spindle' or shoot it. If you're going to allow a man to climb walls, have super strength, speed and hyper-awareness. The viewer is not going to balk at the notion of a man who's been bitten by preternatural spider to shoot web. It's a logical progression from the conceit that a man has spider-like powers.

 

[SPIDER-ADDA]

I don't know why the mechanical ones were ever considered implausible.

1) We're talking about a certifiable scientific genius with no social life. Definitely not out of the realm of possibility that he would make them.
2) This is a comic. If I can make a leap of faith that a spider gave a kid superpowers, then I can believe he could invent his own web shooters.

THANK YOU
It's nice to see that somebody gets it. If a movie is based on a
comic-book character the entire concept should be embraced.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Organic has become the staple in the books and what not, so leave them in.

But Spider-man had webshooters for 40 plus years, yet we've never seen them in a movie. Webshooters in a movie are long overdue.

 

[terry78]

I feel like I'm back in the year 2001 all over again.

 

[Crook]

The film doesn't need to slavishly follow the comics in every single mintue detail. The omission of artificial web shooters will not peturb film-goers to the same degree that a lack of plot/characterisation would do. In the grand scheme of things, it is a inconsequential and a superficial element.

Where did I infer the film had to slavishly follow anything? Your initial comment acted as if the webshooters were a contrarian concept to oppose Raimi's vision. That is completely ignoring the precedent it has in every other interpretation pre-2002. By the same regard, if the very concept of webshooters is a superficial element, then it doesn't really matter if organics are there, correct?

I said if Peter Parker is to acquire/inherit spider abilities (rather than have his physiology mutated) from a spider bite then it simply makes sense he would be able to secrete web and 'spindle' or shoot it.

And you're completely missing the point that the ability to secrete webs is inherently tied to physiology. What are you not getting here? That's like making up the idea of bullets that don't hurt when fired from a gun.

How can you bring "sense" into this topic when you've completely thrown that out the window?

If you're going to allow a man to climb walls, have super strength, speed and hyper-awareness. The viewer is not going to balk at the notion of a man who's been bitten by preternatural spider to shoot web. It's a logical progression from the conceit that a man has spider-like powers.

This isn't really about that. From the very beginning of the thread, "logic" and "plausibility" has been used to argue against either concepts. It's more than obvious the general audience really doesn't give a damn. But to be honest, their opinion doesn't matter when adapting material they know next to nothing about.

 

[Backdrifter]

So really what you are saying is that you want to be right? You want to feel like you are on top because you have such flawless logic? Yikes.