The Amazing Spider-Man Keep the ORGANICS or WEB SHOOTERS???!!!!

[Matt]

Doesn't matter to me, really. But I know that badly joker MATT is going to show up and say that ORGANICS are the greatest thing ever

Once again the badiest joker immortalfire tells his lyies and nonsenses wen is that clown going to join the circus.

 

[Backdrifter]

The organics are just as silly as the webshooters. People say the organics would be more logical. Well, let's talk "logic" then. If Spidey would indeed have organic webshooters, they'd still eventually run out. The body can't produce unlimited supplies of webbing. He'd have to consume adequate amounts of food in order to replenish them. But we've never seen him do that. He gets organics and suddenly his webbing is limitless.

I agree with this. I think he should run out of web. It creates quite a bit of drama.

I just don't think it is believable for a 15 year old kid to have the chemical know how to create a formula for affordable synthetic spider silk (something which even genius professional chemists can't do) and while at the same time possessing the mechanical engineering skills to design and build a dynamic super pressurized firing mechanism. Not to mention where would a 15 year old kid get the resources to produce this formula and the shooters to begin with? When I was fifteen I could barely afford to buy a PlayStation game. Suspension of disbelief just isn't feasible.

 

[GhostPoet]

Organic for me...I never really liked the web shooters.

 

[Crook]

I agree with this. I think he should run out of web. It creates quite a bit of drama.

I just don't think it is believable for a 15 year old kid to have the chemical know how to create a formula for affordable synthetic spider silk (something which even genius professional chemists can't do) and while at the same time possessing the mechanical engineering skills to design and build a dynamic super pressurized firing mechanism. Not to mention where would a 15 year old kid get the resources to produce this formula and the shooters to begin with? When I was fifteen I could barely afford to buy a PlayStation game. Suspension of disbelief just isn't feasible.

But spider-silk being produced inside his body, which requires an entire circulatory system reconfiguration, and coming out of his wrists (???), is completely fine.

The USM explanation is close in concept, but it still deviates to convenient storytelling. Dad works on special formula for years and years, and his son gets bitten by a genetically altered spider that coincidentally relates to said formula? Yeah, not into that.

I'd much rather Peter steal research material from the same labs that were working on the spiders. After getting bit, he experiences these newfound powers and being somewhat of a genius himself, wants to figure out what the hell is going on. A scientific team doing genetic research on arachnids would most likely be studying spider-silk and the means to reproduce it for industrial uses. That's half the work done. Borrowing from USM at this point, Peter completes the formula from the combination of being a science wiz, and having the innate know-how to reproduce specialized protein fibers. Anyone questioning that last bit should read my previous post about pre-disposed genetic traits.

 

[Figs]

I like the organic webbing but since this is a reboot I say this time around they go with the classic Web-shooters. That way with Raimi's films and these new ones we can get a taste of both.

 

[Nathan]

The USM explanation is close in concept, but it still deviates to convenient storytelling. Dad works on special formula for years and years, and his son gets bitten by a genetically altered spider that coincidentally relates to said formula? Yeah, not into that.

Actually, it wasn't Spider-silk. It was some sort of super glue formular that his father worked on and Peter managed to complete it.

 

[Watson]

But spider-silk being produced inside his body, which requires an entire circulatory system reconfiguration, and coming out of his wrists (???), is completely fine.

The USM explanation is close in concept, but it still deviates to convenient storytelling. Dad works on special formula for years and years, and his son gets bitten by a genetically altered spider that coincidentally relates to said formula? Yeah, not into that.

I'd much rather Peter steal research material from the same labs that were working on the spiders. After getting bit, he experiences these newfound powers and being somewhat of a genius himself, wants to figure out what the hell is going on. A scientific team doing genetic research on arachnids would most likely be studying spider-silk and the means to reproduce it for industrial uses. That's half the work done. Borrowing from USM at this point, Peter completes the formula from the combination of being a science wiz, and having the innate know-how to reproduce specialized protein fibers. Anyone questioning that last bit should read my previous post about pre-disposed genetic traits.

I could get behind something like this. It would placate some of the folks who think mechs are out of the question.

 

[Crook]

Actually, it wasn't Spider-silk. It was some sort of super glue formular that his father worked on and Peter managed to complete it.

I know it wasn't spider-silk, but it's related to it. Having Pete be bitten by a spider just adds to the whole coincidental factor. One that strikes me as too convenient. But it's a good start. I can understand the hesitance to him building the material from the ground-up. That's why there needs to be a compromise.

 

[Captain_Death]

Either one would be fine.

 

[the a1ant]

Web shooters for me. If you're going to reboot, might as well make it different (and closer to the source material).

 

[Golgo-13]

I just don't think it is believable for a 15 year old kid to have the chemical know how to create a formula for affordable synthetic spider silk (something which even genius professional chemists can't do) and while at the same time possessing the mechanical engineering skills to design and build a dynamic super pressurized firing mechanism. Not to mention where would a 15 year old kid get the resources to produce this formula and the shooters to begin with? When I was fifteen I could barely afford to buy a PlayStation game. Suspension of disbelief just isn't feasible.

Well you could say the same thing about Spideys costume too. He could barely pay the rent, yet someone afford a multi-thousand dollars suit with raised webbing, plus all the repairs that needed to be done to it battle after battle. Like i said before, ppl buy into things when they want to. Let's just throw the whole 'logic' reason out the window. Trying to explain a fictional characters attributes with logic, is illogical....

 

[the dmg]

I say keep it organic, but let him make webshooters to control the web fluid better when shooting.

I like this idea a lot. If they do go the organic route again, they should explain that since he doesn't have spinnerets controlling the web, he needed to construct something to help him concentrate his webbing.

If not, I would like to see them explore the idea of web shooters and show Parker's genius in doing what others can't.

 

[BrollySupersj]

Web shooters are lame as hell. Organic web shooters are the way to go. Because...ya know...it's an ACTUAL power he has. Not a gadget Batman would use.

 

[Nathan]

I know it wasn't spider-silk, but it's related to it. Having Pete be bitten by a spider just adds to the whole coincidental factor. One that strikes me as too convenient. But it's a good start. I can understand the hesitance to him building the material from the ground-up. That's why there needs to be a compromise.

I haven't seen where it mentiones in the comics that it's related to Spider-silk. It's a molecular adhesive, as it says in the comics.

So there isn't really much of a coincidental factor, that he was working on something Spider-related and then even got bit by a Spider.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Web shooters are lame as hell. Organic web shooters are the way to go. Because...ya know...it's an ACTUAL power he has. Not a gadget Batman would use.

Peter Parker's mind IS an actual power, dude. It makes him formidable against Dr. Ock and Green Goblin. Most of Spider-man's adversaries use gadgets so it makes sense that he does too.

Spider-man has used webshooters for 40 plus years and no one had a problem with it.

 

[Crook]

Web shooters are lame as hell. Organic web shooters are the way to go. Because...ya know...it's an ACTUAL power he has. Not a gadget Batman would use.

What does it being a power or gadget have to do with anything? Please tell me "it's cooler!" isn't the argument being used here.

I haven't seen where it mentiones in the comics that it's related to Spider-silk. It's a molecular adhesive, as it says in the comics.

So there isn't really much of a coincidental factor, that he was working on something Spider-related and then even got bit by a Spider.

The relation is the adhesive factor. The comparisons between a "glue" and spider-silk are fairly obvious. I haven't read the comics in a while, but did it say whether the formula is THE formula his dad worked on? I can see it being a bit more plausible if it was only one of the many experimental projects that were being tested.

 

[Nathan]

I can see it being a bit more plausible if it was only one of the many experimental projects that were being tested.

Yeah, Peter tells Harry it's one of several patents that his father has worked on.

 

[BrollySupersj]

What does it being a power or gadget have to do with anything? Please tell me "it's cooler!" isn't the argument being used here.

No, that isn't the argument being used here. The argument here, is that it just makes better sense.

Bitten by a radioactive spider, you obtain, spider sense,wall crawling, strength, agility, and web shooting.

It's just the better way to go.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

No, that isn't the argument being used here. The argument here, is that it just makes better sense.

Bitten by a radioactive spider, you obtain, spider sense,wall crawling, strength, agility, and web shooting.

It's just the better way to go.

Peter can't shoot webbing because it requires too much spider physiology unlike the rest which are simply enhanced human abilities or attributes..

spider-sense = human pre-cognition

wall crawling = tiny human hair with microscopic hooks

super-strength = exaggerated human strength

super-agility = exaggerated human agility

webshooting = WTF?

Shooting webs require the internal organs of a spider. The rest of Spidey's powers don't.

 

[Nathan]

And honestly, if we're going with what makes sense, he wouldn't be shooting webs out of his wrist.

 

[BrollySupersj]

Peter can't shoot webbing because it requires too much spider physiology unlike the rest which are simply enhanced human abilities or attributes..

spider-sense = human pre-cognition

wall crawling = tiny human hair with microscopic hooks

super-strength = exaggerated human strength

super-agility = exaggerated human agility

webshooting = WTF?

Shooting webs require the internal organs of a spider. The rest of Spidey's powers don't.

The powers came from being bitten, webshooters should be no exception.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

The powers came from being bitten, webshooters should be no exception.

If Peter gets spider parts from the bite then why stop at webbing organs?

Why not give him eight limbs and eyes?

Some of the abilities not transferring because they require too much spider-physiology does make sense. After all, Peter Parker is still mostly human,. He looks nothing like a spider. Inside or outside.

That's the way it should be.

We don't want Spider-girl laying eggs down the road, do we?

 

[Crook]

You're not looking at it closely enough. The addition of organics alters on a physiological level. So why would that be the only arachnoid trait that transfers to Peter? Why not extra limbs, or eyes? That's picking and choosing.

EDIT: Ok, beaten to it.

 

[Nathan]

That is just too convenient, that he would get all the Spider's best traits, but none of the yucky ones. Like the extra limbs and eyes as mentioned or having the need to dissolve food before eating it.

I can remember seeing a Movie, where a person has also gotten Spider powers. He started to shoot webbing from his stomach and his hunger was so great that he started to eat people, by disdolving them and sucking them dry. It was basically Spider-Man gone horribly wrong.

 

[BrollySupersj]

Meh, it's just my preference, and I hope they stick with it. Or find a way to have both.