The Amazing Spider-Man Keep the ORGANICS or WEB SHOOTERS???!!!!

[drmick]

I see it as essentially the following:

Pro-Organics = Refusing to believe that a high school kid with high school resources can develop web fluid.

Pro-Mechanical = people who believe Peter is a genius, and thus Peter has the smarts to develop web fluid if given access to the resources.

Would this be correct? Are there any who do not fall into these two camps (as defined by me)?

 

[SpeterMan3]

Pro-Mechanical could include wanting something new and adding more suspense when his cartridges run out.

 

[mjbull23]

And that made no damn sense at all.

'Why is this happening to me?' Because the writers need it to at this point in time in the story, Tobey.

It made all the sense in the world. The entire theme of the 2nd movie was and I quote Otto Octavius on this one "If you keep something as complicated as love locked inside, it can eat away at you and make you sick".

Okay, let's flashback to that scene you refer to where his webbing dries up, runs out, whatever.... the entire point of that scene was to demonstrate that Peter's unrequited love for Mary Jane was beggining to affect his ability to perform as Spiderman. It was making him sick to the point of losing all of his powers.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I see it as essentially the following:

Pro-Organics = Refusing to believe that a high school kid with high school resources can develop web fluid.

Pro-Mechanical = people who believe Peter is a genius, and thus Peter has the smarts to develop web fluid if given access to the resources.

Would this be correct? Are there any who do not fall into these two camps (as defined by me)?

You're right and wrong.
Pro-organic could also include:
Seeing the webbing as being a logical, natural aspect of his arachnid mutation.
Not seeing what it hurts, story-wise.
Liking to antagonize the pro-mechs camp. t:
Pro-mechanical could include:
Traditionalists who want as many aspects of the comic book translated to/preserved on film.
People who are somewhat grossed out by the idea of him using his actual bodily substance to fight & travel with.
Likiing to antagonize the pro-organic camp.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Pro-Mechanical could include wanting something new and adding more suspense when his cartridges run out.

You do realize that it's entirely possible (especially if I have my way) for him to have mechs & still not encounter issues with his web fluid supply? It's not like he runs into this scenario every issue. "Damn! I'm out! What do I do?"
Hell, for that matter, he could just as easily-logically speaking-run into problems with his webbing supply using organics. If I'm not mistaken, one of the key ingredients in spider silk is protein. He could not have eaten well and not be able to generate enough webbing in a fight. Or he could have a bad cut & lose protein that way. It may sound far-fetched but it's not ENTIRELY implausible.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Yeah, it's entirely possible either way. I know that at least I associate web problems more with mechs though.

 

[SP1D3RxV3N0M]

I see it as essentially the following:

Pro-Organics = Refusing to believe that a high school kid with high school resources can develop web fluid.

Pro-Mechanical = people who believe Peter is a genius, and thus Peter has the smarts to develop web fluid if given access to the resources.

Would this be correct? Are there any who do not fall into these two camps (as defined by me)?

Put me in a third group, A group of people who just want a good Spider-man story told on the big screen and isn't really concerned with the web being organic or mechanical...

 

[Alonsovich]

I suggest a hybrid solution... using the web shooters to control and aim better his organic webbing...

 

[Spectacular23]

I suggest a hybrid solution... using the web shooters to control and aim better his organic webbing...

No offense dude but that dumb. I mean borderline ******ation. The way i see it is they are even doing mechanics or no mechanics. Point blank. No " web controllers" They are called web shooters. No just nah

 

[Chris Wallace]

I never liked that idea, not even when there were rumors circulating around that Raimi was going that route.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I don't like web-controllers either. I don't care which way they go with, but I'd rather have web-shooters or organics. Nothing in between.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I don't care which way they go with, but I'd rather have web-shooters or organics. Nothing in between.

Seconded.

 

[Peter_Porker]

I would like to see the mechanical web shooters....some of the best parts of the Spiderman cartoons is when he's in the middle of a fight and runs out of the webbing (sorta like in SM 2 when he lost his abilities for a short time).

 

[Rodrigo90]

I like the idea of him producing his own web,then building the shooters to control and amplify what he can do with them.

 

[Chris Wallace]

You are FAR from the first person to propose this. As I've said before, they were allegedly planning to use this idea in Raimi's movies at one point.

I don't know if the idea was just scrapped or if it was a red herring.
In any case, it really wouldn't make sense for them to do that now. We saw him control his web flow just fine in not one, not two, but 3 movies. In fact, by the second movie he'd learned how to fire web projectiles. To say that he now needs a gadget to do this would be like diminishing him, much the way the pro-mechs camp argues that having organic webbing in the first place diminishes his intellect.

 

[Rodrigo90]

But he can do lots of things with his web with the shooters. He remotely adjusts them with the pressure of his fingers,so he can shoot a normal web line or even a parachute if he wanted.

 

[Chris Wallace]

But he can do that WITHOUT those things. We saw him shoot thin lines, thick cables, web-balls and even huge nets in the Raimi films.
And the parachute thing-I really can't see it. Looks good in comics & cartoons but I truly do not think it would fly on film.

 

[MrSpyder]

I still say web shooters. Let Peter be the science wiz that he is

 

[Spectacular23]

Ok. Question: If they do give spider man web shooters can how will they explain the basic of how it work. Yeah i know he press the trigger and webbing comes out. But if they going to go with the ultimate route this could be quite confusing. In amazing and ultimate spiderman comics peter parker web shooters has always been that one web cartridge with the nozzle and trigger connects to it. The other 9 cartridges line around the outside of his wrist. How will they explain how this will work? Now i can see if the went with the spectacular spiderman web shooters design with the automatic carousel, of rotating to a fresh one after one goes dry.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Who says they have to explain it at all?

 

[Hotwire]

Just realized, they have to go organic again. See, with web-shooters, he'd have to reload them. And in Hollywood, the good guys never need to reload their guns. So....

 

[Chris Wallace]

Just realized, they have to go organic again. See, with web-shooters, he'd have to reload them. And in Hollywood, the good guys never need to reload their guns. So....

 

[Spectacular23]

Just realized, they have to go organic again. See, with web-shooters, he'd have to reload them. And in Hollywood, the good guys never need to reload their guns. So....

What the hell? Who told you that lie. Peter hasn't needed to reload his web shooters since the 90's. Nowadays peter either has one of 2 thing. The carousel that automatically rotates to a fresh cartridge when one runs dry. Or the self replenishing web shooter. With the main cartridge hook up to the nozzle and trigger. The web fluid flows in a clockwise motion to the main cartridge and exits out the nozzle. Since the cartridges is 300psi this is possible. (Self-replenishing web shooters.)

 

[Chris Wallace]

I still like the idea of them keeping us guessing until about halfway through, when we finally see him take his glove off.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Would love to see him develop his webshooters from the constantly reloaded to the rotating cartidges in the movie(s).