King Kong{2005} Appreciation Thread

[Cinemaman]

Loved it, such a beautiful and amazing movie

 

[Movies205]

It was good, but it was way too long and dragged a bit. Its not generally a good idea to remake an hour and a half movie as a 3 hour movie.

It did it better than scarface at least The film isn't great nor is it crap, it simply miss the point of the monster movie by trying to hard to make it respectable especially with all the useless subplots.

 

[Kanon]

I liked it, and didn't feel it was too long... And it was really emotional, it made me root for Kong, like in the old movie.

 

[Movies205]

You guys can hate me for it but the train sequence in Kong '76 is the best Kong Action sequence

 

[Sentinel X]

I cant beleive how much people hate this movie...and some even think the original was better . Dont get me wrong, I enjoy 1933 King Kong but this one is much better.
I LOVE this movie and its really underrated. If people want to mention an overrated movie by Peter Jackson mention ROTK...11 oscars that were not deserved

 

[Movies205]

I cant beleive how much people hate this movie...and some even think the original was better . Dont get me wrong, I enjoy 1933 King Kong but this one is much better.
I LOVE this movie and its really underrated. If people want to mention an overrated movie by Peter Jackson mention ROTK...11 oscars that were not deserved

It's not hard to be better than the first monster film considering you have over 80 years of previous work to build off of... Yeah big feat

 

[Kanon]

I cant beleive how much people hate this movie...and some even think the original was better . Dont get me wrong, I enjoy 1933 King Kong but this one is much better.

People who know **** about movies will always said the original was better for any kind of movie (remake or sequel), that way they try to look like they can appreciate the classics. I'm pretty sure many of the people saying that Kong33 was better haven't even seen it!

I LOVE this movie and its really underrated. If people want to mention an overrated movie by Peter Jackson mention ROTK...11 oscars that were not deserved

I kinda agree. I like ROTK, but certainly Kong, IMO, doesn't feel as long as ROTK does

 

[Movies205]

People who know **** about movies will always said the original was better for any kind of movie (remake or sequel), that way they try to look like they can appreciate the classics. I'm pretty sure many of the people saying that Kong33 was better haven't even seen it!

Puleeeze I decided I was going try and be nice but some people need to be *****-smacked into place. It has nothing to do with any ******ed sense of duty to say Kong '33 is better than the remake, it simply is, if you know anything about film. We now need to anaylse this phrase and give nubs like yourself a proper understanding of it. However... Let me illuminate to you something... I've seen King Kong (33'), Mighty Joe Young ('44), King Kong Vs. Godzilla, King Kong (76'), King Kong Lives (87'), and King Kong (05'). I also have Son of Kong on my shelf... So I am a fan of Kong as well as have seen almost all the iterations of Kong. (All right so I haven't seen Escape of Kong or the lame cartoon so sue me )

King Kong 33' is the first special effects bonaza, to say it's the first monster film(as I said before) is incorrect considering that German Expressionism was happening a good ten years prior. However, it's the first film to have a monster of this caliber and have it be all special effects. This fact is what makes it important, it was the first to do it thus opening the doors for everything to come. However was Kong 33' a perfect film? Far from it, the characters are so hollow it's pathetic, however that's the point, everyone wants to see the monster and the end is poetic.

Now let's flash forward a good 13 years to the makers of King Kong's third entry into big ape films, Mighty Joe Young. A HUGE IMPROVEMENT, the stop-motion is exceptional, the characters and acting is equally good, all in all it does things better, however is it truely better? The reason it's a better film is that it's no longer right at the beginning of the sound age as well as having the foresight and pressure to have something other than the monster. It's an improvement due to the fact that it wasn't first.

Flash forward 80 years and the same could be said of this King Kong... It has the benefit of drawing from so many different adaptations of Kong that it's too little, too late. I mean there's nothing miraculous about doing something better than the original, when it's been done 7 times before you. Let's not forget all the other monster and Kaiju films that have come out during that time. So for those of us "who know **** about film" we realize that what Jackson did was simply take the original kong story, add in a bunch of useless subplots, and film it with an updated look... WHoopie-de-****ing doo! DOn't get me wrong, I think Kong 05' is a wonderfully crafted film, just look at Kong himself however it's nothing groundbreaking.

 

[Movies205]

For the record if you like Kong 05' better that's perfectly fine, everyone has a right to an opinion and all the power to ya. I simply think it's lame that Kong 05' fanboys are trying to discredit other people's opinions with their apparently lack of knowledge

 

[Shuley]

I liked both Kong movies the same,Kong '05 was prettier to look at of course.

 

[Kanon]

I'm not saying that anyone who thinks Kong33 is better knows ****, is wrong or anything like that... I'm saying that people who know **** tend to praise classics just 'cause they are classics to look smarter, but that doesn't mean that everyone (not even the mayority) that like the original is one of those people.

 

[Movies205]

I'm not saying that anyone who thinks Kong33 is better knows ****, is wrong or anything like that... I'm saying that people who know **** tend to praise classics just 'cause they are classics to look smarter, but that doesn't mean that everyone (not even the mayority) that like the original is one of those people.

Fine as long as you recongize this Plus there's not even that many on this board that supposely like the classics... Since very rarely can you get a discussion started about a movie made before 1980 hence why I had to make a discussion thread...

 

[Kanon]

I wasn't refering to anyone on this board, and I wouldn't darte to say anyone here knows **** about movies (is someone is closer to that, that would be me ) it was more of a general thing about people that makes me mad, I just said it trying to explain why so many people trash this movie, other remakes, sequels, etc.
Or comic book adaptations, like people that never toched or seen the cover of a Daredevil comic trashing Daredevil saying it's not faithful to the comics (maybe it's not, but they wouldn't know )

 

[C. Lee]

Fine as long as you recongize this Plus there's not even that many on this board that supposely like the classics... Since very rarely can you get a discussion started about a movie made before 1980 hence why I had to make a discussion thread...

I find it hilarious (and sad) when someone says - "I want to watch some old movies, what's good from the 80's for me to watch?"

I love the original Kong....Son of Kong has moments, but obviously rushed through production to capitalize on the original.....Mighty Joe Young is one of my favorite all time movies (Joe vs the cowboys, Joe vs the lions, Joe at the orphanage fire.....beautiful).....Kong ('76) Rick Baker makes it worth repeated viewings......King Kong Lives('87), is a bad joke.....Kong ('05) too long for theater, but great at home.

King Kong Escapes and King Kong VS Godzilla.....saw them 40 years ago, so I can't give a good review of them, too much time has elapsed since I saw them....but recently picked them both up as a 2 pack DVD set at Best Buy....so should get them rewatched soon.

 

[Movies205]

I find it hilarious (and sad) when someone says - "I want to watch some old movies, what's good from the 80's for me to watch?"

Heh... Most people don't even realize tht there was a whole period of film before sound... Silent films are very cool cinema to watch, I need to rent another one soon...

I love the original Kong....Son of Kong has moments, but obviously rushed through production to capitalize on the original.....Mighty Joe Young is one of my favorite all time movies (Joe vs the cowboys, Joe vs the lions, Joe at the orphanage fire.....beautiful).....Kong ('76) Rick Baker makes it worth repeated viewings......King Kong Lives('87), is a bad joke.....Kong ('05) too long for theater, but great at home.

That's why I haven't watched Son of Kong simply because it seems like it'd be kind of crappy... Some day I'll get to it. Mighty Joe Young is great, it's really a remake of King Kong but with a lot of little things changed. I really like Kong 76' because they try something different which was to get rid of all the magic and monster-island stuff, and it worked partially. Plus they made King Kong into more of a god-like figure since he walks up-right, I also love the action sequences, it's also cool to see Man in Suit action.

King Kong Escapes and King Kong VS Godzilla.....saw them 40 years ago, so I can't give a good review of them, too much time has elapsed since I saw them....but recently picked them both up as a 2 pack DVD set at Best Buy....so should get them rewatched soon.

I wanted to buy that two pack so get back ot me on that... I wish it included the original JP versions.

 

[Matt]

You know, I really like Kong 76. Jessica Lange was easily the best Kong-Girl. The effects for the time are out of this world. I wish they would've kept Denham as a movie producer and not an oil tycoon or whatever he was, but I liked it.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

King Kong is a movie that you had to see at the cinema, really. Anyone who judges it from just a DVD viewing isn't really seeing it, IMO.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I personally liked the '05 version better, I watched and appreciated the '33 version, but what made me like the '05 version better is the "relationship" between Kong and Anne. The effects and actions sequences are great, but the story between Kong and Anne is what really sets the '05 version apart from the previous versions.

 

[Iceman]

I love Kong 05 overall but some of the scenes should have been cut out.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

My favourite scene in King Kong 2005 is the insect pit scene. Just amazing. It's quite extrodinarily creepy, but in a unique way; I'd call it depressingly horrific. The sense that there is just no way for any of them to escape, and that they are all doomed. Even the monsters move in a way that suggests they have excepted their fate. The music and visuals combine to give a sense that the characters are in hell.

Incredible scene, really.

 

[The Lizard]

My favourite scene in King Kong 2005 is the insect pit scene. Just amazing. It's quite extrodinarily creepy, but in a unique way; I'd call it depressingly horrific. The sense that there is just no way for any of them to escape, and that they are all doomed. Even the monsters move in a way that suggests they have excepted their fate. The music and visuals combine to give a sense that the characters are in hell.

Incredible scene, really.

Agreed for the most part, but like many other parts in this film, this scene went on too long and incorporated too many "over the top" elements. The part where Jimmy (arg - HATE Jimmy! ) is firing the machine gun haphazardly and manages to blast all the bugs right off Jack's body was just silly and cartoonish and detracted from the overall horror of the sequence.

Sort of like how the Kong vs V-Rex fight started out cool but got ridiculous when the other 2 V-Rexes came along and everybody started swinging around in the vines a la Van Helsing.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Agreed for the most part, but like many other parts in this film, this scene went on too long and incorporated too many "over the top" elements. The part where Jimmy (arg - HATE Jimmy! ) is firing the machine gun haphazardly and manages to blast all the bugs right off Jack's body was just silly and cartoonish and detracted from the overall horror of the sequence.

Very true. I could just about buy that the ship's captain guy could shoot a machine gun with such accuracy, but certainly not a kid with no experience of fire-arms.

Sort of like how the Kong vs V-Rex fight started out cool but got ridiculous when the other 2 V-Rexes came along and everybody started swinging around in the vines a la Van Helsing.

Truly, that is the ultimate insult.

 

[Excel]

Sick film....lol i cant stop laughing at the expression on jack blacks face in this pic

 

[co2]

It's only about 7 minutes longer. It's not a huge change like the LOTR EEs.

The scenes added back in were top notch though.
That crossig of the swamp scene was incredible. I can't believe it was cut initially.

 

[co2]

You know, I really like Kong 76. Jessica Lange was easily the best Kong-Girl. The effects for the time are out of this world. I wish they would've kept Denham as a movie producer and not an oil tycoon or whatever he was, but I liked it.

Really?! Fay and Naomi came off as beautiful and tragic. Jessica came off as a doped up major **** that you just dislike.

I love both 33 and and 05. I've liked 33 since I was a kid. Hell, I have a framed poster of it adorning my living room. You have to give it props. It was the first special effects blockbuster movie. Lucas, Speilberg, Cameron...all of the movies that have forums on this board...have Kong 33 to thank for setting the precedent. And Peter did a terrific job by creating another special effects spectacle. Though everyone has to concede that Kong from 33 was a more viscious but kicker than the softer-hearted ape in 05.

Kong 76 was the first movie I ever saw in a theater and I loved it back then. Now.....not so much. It's crazy to watch it and realize that 33 had better effects. lol.
The sequel, King Kong Lives, with Linda Hamilton was on the Spanish station the other day. Never seen it, but GOD how awful....and it wasn't improved by being in Spanish.