Knightfall, would u care for a new take?

[Cobblepot]

I love the entire Knightfall saga, it adds great depth to Batman's myth.
But I've recently re-read it and it feels kinda "old".
I would love to have it rewritten and redrawn (by one artist).

 

[Lord]

Only if they made the story last longer

 

[CConn]

Not at all. Comics are supposed to feel dated after a couple of decades. That's part if their charm.

 

[Hush]

We already have remakes in movies lets not let the execs in comics think we want re-makes of older stories.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I'm pretty glad the comic remakes usually only extend to origins that are retold at least once every 10 years right now. No need to expand them to other stories, especially when half the 'new' stories are just do-overs of old ideas these days.

 

[Spike_x1]

I wouldn't mind if they released a more complete first volume, maybe with the first Vengeance of Bane as a sort of prologue for the benefit of those readers who can't be bothered with wikipedia to read his origin. I certainly wouldn't buy it, since I already own that s**t, but I could understand if they rereleased it with the movie coming up and everything. But remaking it? No.

It might feel old now, but a remake would feel dated after 20 years too.

 

[Wolfwood]

I might be interested in a reimagining of the story, but that's just me. Overall, it probably wouldn't sell well.

 

[sandwraith]

Who Rules The Night is as good as any storyline name to come out over the last decade.

But if I were to have it be remade...I dunno. I've always been partial to Pete Wood as a Batman artist but I think Dale Eaglesham's artstyle suits the story (more hero-villain clashes than noir/mystery type Batman stories).

The writer needs to be someone with a coherent idea of storytelling so that automatically disqualifies Loeb, Morrison, Millar...etc etc. To me, the master of straight-up superhero stories was either Dwayne McDuffie (God rest his soul) or Mark Waid.

 

[Kitsune]

Only if they made the story last longer

Maybe Marvel can redo the clone Saga while they are at it.

 

[jonathancrane]

I would be up for a Knightfall-remade or edited-that does not have Jean-Paul Valley in it. He was the worst part of the saga.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

But ironically one of the best parts of the era after it.

 

[sandwraith]

But ironically one of the best parts of the era after it.

Subjective. I for one wasn't really impressed with Jean-Paul Valley.

He is and always will be just another nut-job who tried to usurp the mantle of the Bat...And should have gotten his ass handed back to him (he didn't...unfortunately).

 

[TheCorpulent1]

His time as Azrael was awesome. Also, opinions are always subjective. Like, your opinion that my opinion is subjective? Totally subjective.

 

[sandwraith]

His time as Azrael was awesome. Also, opinions are always subjective. Like, your opinion that my opinion is subjective? Totally subjective.

College ruined you Corp

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd be offended if that weren't a subjective opinion.

 

[Jordacar]

I wouldn't care for a new comics take, but in my continual obsessions as to how the Batman mythos could be re-packaged as a TV series (and not a weaksauce prequel ), I've given some thought as to how the whole Knightfall and Bane in particular could fit in that context.

A few points:
--I don't know if the whole AzBats chapter would hold up as well unless Jean-Paul got a lot more development or was introduced into the story in a different way. (This is coming from a guy who hasn't read a lot of the guy outside of Knightfall and never really found him interesting anyway).
--I find it interesting that in both the comic and in TDKR, Batman gets broken deep underground away from almost any witnesses. I feel like if Bane was out to break the city's spirit as well, he'd be better off defeating Bats in full view of the public. Of course it's hard to imagine him doing that and not bothering to unmask him to the masses as well.
--It'd be easy to pair up Knightfall with No Man's Land somehow, but I'm not wild about that given that TDKR already combined those (along with Dark Knight Returns).

 

[godisawesome]

I think Bane beating Batman in his cave was an awesomely ballsy move for the character, and I loved just how much it demonstrated that Bane had completely defeated his opponent. The trap in TDKR makes sense as an approach to a canny and tech reliant older Batman, since he's mostly just outfought in that version.

The comic where Bane drags the crippled Batman out, announces his win, then drops Batman into the crowd was a pretty memorable moment. I'd love to see something like that moment, perhaps with Batman's allies desperately racing to secure him before anyone else and maybe being caught by Bane before they can, only for him to release them because he wants a challenge.

That is one big thing I think they could refocus on in the next retelling: Bane's motivation and reasons for not killing Batman. TDKR supplied reason for their version, so let's see something different. Perhaps they can just exaggerate Bane's drive to be the best into a hyper competitiveness to explain both why Bane seeks guys like Batman and Ra's out, and why he doesn't just immediately kill them. He hears about Batman from inside Pena Duro, maybe even from a prisoner who's still more scared of the Bat then of him, and decides that Batman is the best possible "champion" to target, and leaves him alive afterward just to see if he could, somehow, come back as a challenge.

So if you're a worthy opponent, Bane might not kill you. If you don't meet his standards, you're dead meat.

 

[Kaleb]

I love the entire Knightfall saga, it adds great depth to Batman's myth.
But I've recently re-read it and it feels kinda "old".
I would love to have it rewritten and redrawn (by one artist).

heh, the city was his for like half an issue, I loved the AZBats character but his costumes got more and more ridiculous as each issue went by

 

[Jordacar]

The comic where Bane drags the crippled Batman out, announces his win, then drops Batman into the crowd was a pretty memorable moment. I'd love to see something like that moment, perhaps with Batman's allies desperately racing to secure him before anyone else and maybe being caught by Bane before they can, only for him to release them because he wants a challenge.

I agree with you on that one. Bane throwing down the defeated Bats in front of everyone is the keystone moment of the story for me, even moreso than the actual backbreaking (which we all knew was going to happen since it was on the cover and had been advertised for months).

I have this image in my head of the preceding fight going down on the roof, with police spotlights and news choppers circling the place. But I feel like for that to make any kind of sense, it'd have to be a much more loud and frantic bout than we've seen in other versions, because the longer it goes on, the more likely it is that someone (sidekick or hero cop) will be able to interfere.

That can still be powerful of course; everyone would see that it's really Batman holding his own, they would all see him almost win, only for Bane to get the upper-hand and snap him in two while everyone watches. Meanwhile, both the comic and TDKR really created the sense that Batman was totally outmatched and his defeat was inevitable, so it was more about him fighting down to his last breath.

So even with the same end result, it can be powerful in different ways, depending on how you'd want to go about it.

 

[Jordacar]

There must be a way to combine Jean-Paul/Azrael with this Arkham Knight cat from the new game, right?

Although, is Azrael in the games already?

 

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Be an awesome animated series. Not the crappy features but three seasons of a dozen or so episodes.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Minus Az-Bat costume, the story doesn't feel dated to me.