Comics Kraven's Last Hunt in hard cover

[ragingdemon155]

All you 'The Other' haters.....I urge you to read 'Last hunt'

People annoyed with 'The Other' should read 'Last Hunt' the foundations for Pete being either the spider or the man were laid even then. Check it out. Interesting that it would be looked upon as a interesting dark take on spidey...but now 'The Other' was slated for elaborating on what could be found 20-odd years earlier.

You can't be serious.

Don't even mention "The Other" and "Kravens Last Hunt" in the same sentence. The level of writing, artwork, pacing and characterizations are all LEAGUES above "The Other".

The two stories have nothing in common at all.

One was classic, the other is regarded as probably the worst Story in the history of Spider-man.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

I've heard a lot about this--I'll definately check it out.

 

[Cullen]

I mentioned this in another thread, but this, for me, is a gotta get. I don't think I've read "Kraven's Last Hunt" since it came out, but the whole thing lingers in my mind. Those who are all for change and shake ups in the status quo should check this out. This is change done right.

 

[SpideyFan85]

This story is definately one of the best Spidey stories I have ever read... I already own the trade, but this book looks like it will be packed with extras, so I will probably be picking up the HC. It's THAT good of a story that I would buy another copy. Definately a must-have for any Spidey-Fan.

 

[arachnid-guy]

You can't be serious.

Don't even mention "The Other" and "Kravens Last Hunt" in the same sentence. The level of writing, artwork, pacing and characterizations are all LEAGUES above "The Other".

The two stories have nothing in common at all.

One was classic, the other is regarded as probably the worst Story in the history of Spider-man.

I am NOT saying Other is better than Last Hunt...all I'm saying is that it's interesting that the ideas expressed 20 odd years ago could be so universally hated and panned years later.

Overall, there are some good parts in other...but I love Last Hunt-The level of writing, artwork, pacing and characterizations are all LEAGUES above "The Other".

I'm not trying to say that Other is better than Kast hunt...all im saying is that the ideas are virtually the same thning.

Take a chill pill guys, im a full advocate for Last Hunt.

Although I made the mistake of buying ?Other hardcover.

Read Last Hunt then read Other...i'll bet you'll see similarities.

 

[ragingdemon155]

I read Kraven's Last Hunt a ton of times already, trust me. I've also read "The Other" as has just about everyone here. I really don't see any similarities. Peter said "I am the Spider" but when Peter was using that phrase he was going crazy. The guy was buried alive. It was a combination of the drugs and so on affecting his brain.

It had nothing to do with deep mystical magic or being the "chosen one" by the Spiders.

He was just going crazy and becoming delusional.

People seem to take the "I am the Spider" line out of context and try to say "See JMS didn't start it". When Peter was using that phrase back in the 90's doing the "Dark Period" for the character he was simply saying he was going to ignore the emotions that Peter Parker felt because he was always getting hurt in the end. Thats all. That is FAR different from what was happening in "The Other".

 

[Captivated]

I read Kraven's Last Hunt a ton of times already, trust me. I've also read "The Other" as has just about everyone here. I really don't see any similarities. Peter said "I am the Spider" but when Peter was using that phrase he was going crazy. The guy was buried alive. It was a combination of the drugs and so on affecting his brain.

It had nothing to do with deep mystical magic or being the "chosen one" by the Spiders.

He was just going crazy and becoming delusional.

People seem to take the "I am the Spider" line out of context and try to say "See JMS didn't start it". When Peter was using that phrase back in the 90's doing the "Dark Period" for the character he was simply saying he was going to ignore the emotions that Peter Parker felt because he was always getting hurt in the end. Thats all. That is FAR different from what was happening in "The Other".

There you go. Nice explaination.

 

[SpideyInATree]

I am NOT saying Other is better than Last Hunt...all I'm saying is that it's interesting that the ideas expressed 20 odd years ago could be so universally hated and panned years later.

Overall, there are some good parts in other...but I love Last Hunt-The level of writing, artwork, pacing and characterizations are all LEAGUES above "The Other".

I'm not trying to say that Other is better than Kast hunt...all im saying is that the ideas are virtually the same thning.

Take a chill pill guys, im a full advocate for Last Hunt.

Although I made the mistake of buying ?Other hardcover.

Read Last Hunt then read Other...i'll bet you'll see similarities.

You've helped me out in another thread, sorta. And I'm gonna help you out, sorta.

I see what you're saying. But you're going to get taken out of context no matter how well you put it. All they saw was "Kraven's Last Hunt" and "The Other" and "similar" and POUNCE!

As you saw what happened to me in another thread. All that certain poster saw in my post is what he/she wanted to see, and POUNCE.

If you don't agree with the popular opinion around here you're going to become an outcast.

My advice? Just stick to your guns, and enjoy what you want to enjoy.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

If you don't agree with the popular opinion around here you're going to become an outcast.

My advice? Just stick to your guns, and enjoy what you want to enjoy.

Amen, brother. Amen.

 

[Cullen]

I am NOT saying Other is better than Last Hunt...all I'm saying is that it's interesting that the ideas expressed 20 odd years ago could be so universally hated and panned years later.

Overall, there are some good parts in other...but I love Last Hunt-The level of writing, artwork, pacing and characterizations are all LEAGUES above "The Other".

I'm not trying to say that Other is better than Kast hunt...all im saying is that the ideas are virtually the same thning.

Take a chill pill guys, im a full advocate for Last Hunt.

Although I made the mistake of buying ?Other hardcover.

Read Last Hunt then read Other...i'll bet you'll see similarities.

They both have words an' pictures? They both have Spider-man?

I don't agree with your comparison. As I recall it, there was strong symbolism using spiders and rats in KLH. And that's it. Just symbolism.

TO doesn't even have that much wit.

 

[Cullen]

You've helped me out in another thread, sorta. And I'm gonna help you out, sorta.

I see what you're saying. But you're going to get taken out of context no matter how well you put it. All they saw was "Kraven's Last Hunt" and "The Other" and "similar" and POUNCE!

As you saw what happened to me in another thread. All that certain poster saw in my post is what he/she wanted to see, and POUNCE.

If you don't agree with the popular opinion around here you're going to become an outcast.

My advice? Just stick to your guns, and enjoy what you want to enjoy.

Uh... as far as I can see, arachnid-guy didn't say he liked or enjoyed The Other. The way he phrased his original statement gave that impression he did, but in truth, as I see it, he's only pointing out a corrolary he saw between the two. While others aren't taking the comparison very well , no one's even suggested shunning arachnid-guy up to this point. Or, really, attacking him. Just the suggestion.

Talk about seeing what you want to see...

 

[SpideyInATree]

Uh... as far as I can see, arachnid-guy didn't say he liked or enjoyed The Other. The way he phrased his original statement gave that impression he did, but in truth, as I see it, he's only pointing out a corrolary he saw between the two. While others aren't taking the comparison very well , no one's even suggested shunning arachnid-guy up to this point. Or, really, attacking him. Just the suggestion.

Talk about seeing what you want to see...

And he was sort of being attacked. He was making a little comparison between the "I am the Spider" and the "mystical" aspect. He's not wrong. But people were putting words into his mouth thinking that he was trying to make a full on comparison between the two stories.

I'm just helping a new poster out around here. And, yeah...talk about seeing what you want to see, eh, Cullen?

 

[Captivated]

And he was sort of being attacked. He was making a little comparison between the "I am the Spider" and the "mystical" aspect. He's not wrong. But people were putting words into his mouth thinking that he was trying to make a full on comparison between the two stories.

The simularities are superficial at best and he made it sound like it was much more. Read the above post by ragingdemon155, who summed it up very well.

 

[SpideyInATree]

The simularities are superficial at best and he made it sound like it was much more. Read the above post by ragingdemon155, who summed it up very well.

I did read it, and he was making more out of it than what was meant. Read arachnid's post where he further explains his point.

Unfortunately it's a common thing on this board that happens and I was giving fair warning to a new poster. Too many posters have been chased from these forums because of things like this.

 

[Cyclops]

I'm not trying to say that Other is better than Kast hunt...all im saying is that the ideas are virtually the same thning.

Kraven shooting Spider-Man with a chemical to simulate death and taking his place to prove himself his superior is the same thing as Spider-Man contracting an unnamed, unsymptomed illness and then getting beaten to a pulp by a Morbius wannabe and emerging from a deathlike state with new powers?

The ONLY thing similar is that Spidey nearly died both times. Other than that, the two stories have not a damn thing in common.

 

[Cullen]

And he was sort of being attacked. He was making a little comparison between the "I am the Spider" and the "mystical" aspect. He's not wrong. But people were putting words into his mouth thinking that he was trying to make a full on comparison between the two stories.

I'm just helping a new poster out around here. And, yeah...talk about seeing what you want to see, eh, Cullen?

Yes. You saw exactly what you wanted to see. You still are seeing exactly what you want to see.

No one has attacked arachnid guy. No one has called him a name, no one has questioned his sanity, no one has suggested he reread his stuff. Every last post against his point has gone after the point itself and not him. At the most, he's got a "How could you think that?" type response.

That's all.

Compared to the "Sins Past" days, that's not bad.

By all appearances, you're so locked into the negative=bad mind set that every expression counter to what you see is right is automatically an attack. You don't seem to see anything else.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Yes. You saw exactly what you wanted to see. You still are seeing exactly what you want to see.

No one has attacked arachnid guy. No one has called him a name, no one has questioned his sanity, no one has suggested he reread his stuff. Every last post against his point has gone after the point itself and not him. At the most, he's got a "How could you think that?" type response.

That's all.

Compared to the "Sins Past" days, that's not bad.

By all appearances, you're so locked into the negative=bad mind set that every expression counter to what you see is right is automatically an attack. You don't seem to see anything else.

HAHA, ok. Whatever you say, old man.

 

[arachnid-guy]

Thanks SpideyinaTree and MyPokershirt. Glad some people have my back on these boards.

I don't want a flame war guys...believe me. I'm being somewhat persecuted for my views...so burn me at the stake then!

'TO' does delve more into the supernatural side of Spider-Man being either the spider or the man...that I understand. But 'KLH'- reading it (although peter is drugged and buried alive) the is definetly UNDERTONES of the same motif used in 'TO'.

Please, don't take this argument any further...this is what I individually think- i'm not trying to enforce my views on you.

Ok...let's just enjoy Spider-Man for what he was 'back in the day'- well, he was kind of dark here. but still......

...thanks for reading.

 

[Cullen]

HAHA, ok. Whatever you say, old man.

Now, Now. Which of us resorted to name calling here? You did? You better cut that out. That's naughty. Might drive someone away.

 

[Cullen]

Thanks SpideyinaTree and MyPokershirt. Glad some people have my back on these boards.

I don't want a flame war guys...believe me. I'm being somewhat persecuted for my views...so burn me at the stake then!

'TO' does delve more into the supernatural side of Spider-Man being either the spider or the man...that I understand. But 'KLH'- reading it (although peter is drugged and buried alive) the is definetly UNDERTONES of the same motif used in 'TO'.

Please, don't take this argument any further...this is what I individually think- i'm not trying to enforce my views on you.

Ok...let's just enjoy Spider-Man for what he was 'back in the day'- well, he was kind of dark here. but still......

...thanks for reading.

I think you're reading too much into things. But hey! That happens.

What you have to understand is that there are a lot of raw nerves around here. Most everyone here is all right. Even the people who disagree with me.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Now, Now. Which of us resorted to name calling here? You did? You better cut that out. That's naughty. Might drive someone away.

It's what men like to call, "busting balls".

 

[arachnid-guy]

I think you're reading too much into things. But hey! That happens.

What you have to understand is that there are a lot of raw nerves around here. Most everyone here is all right. Even the people who disagree with me.

ah yeah...i guess i am!

...raw nerves...

...ok.

fair enough.

 

[Shadowknight]

Kraven's Last Hunt is LEAGUES better than "The Other". For one thing, it doesn't waste the first half of its story with filler crap and it doesn't ******edly mutate Spider-Man for no reason.

How can you possibly use a masterwork like "Fearful Symmetry" to justify "The Other"?

"Kraven's Last Hunt" makes "The Other" look like Shakespeare in comparison, and I hated "The Other". Yeah, I hated it that much.