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Should shuri be in black panther

  • Yes - straight away

  • Yes but save her for a sequel

  • No never

  • I don't know


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I think the top choice would have to be Lupita Nyong'o from Twelve Years A Slave.

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Lupita would be a great choice, but with Black Panther and Star Wars 8 being released within 6-7 of each other the shooting schedule will likely overlap.
 
Lupita is the perfect choice really
 
Lupita would be a great choice, but with Black Panther and Star Wars 8 being released within 6-7 of each other the shooting schedule will likely overlap.

We do not know if Lupita is going to be in Star Wars 8. For all we know, she's one and done in the Star Wars films.
 
We do not know if Lupita is going to be in Star Wars 8. For all we know, she's one and done in the Star Wars films.

Even if she was in Star Wars 8, both BP and SW are in house. And for a talent like Lupita, they would definitely try to make it work.
 
Not only should Shuri be in the movie, I definitely feel that she should have a notable role in the film. Something akin to Falcon in Cap: Winter Soldier.

I also surprised by the push back by some users. Shuri definitely wasn't just a substitute and eventually developed her own identity in the comics (a bit more traditional and "Pro-Wakandan" than T'Challa), which is very important for the BP mythos and dare I say comics in general: a competent (black) female character who not only can defend herself, but also can make waves in the geopolitical front. And she doesn't need to be a Black Panther to be relevant to the story either.
 
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I think Hunter would make a more interesting pro-Wakandan character. Monica Lynn is likely the competent black character. And I feel W'Kabi would be reduced in role by Shuri as well. I have no objection to Shuri. I think she can make for an interesting character if done right, but I also don't think she's necessarily if she doesn't fit.
 
I think Hunter would make a more interesting pro-Wakandan character. Monica Lynn is likely the competent black character. And I feel W'Kabi would be reduced in role by Shuri as well. I have no objection to Shuri. I think she can make for an interesting character if done right, but I also don't think she's necessarily if she doesn't fit.

Shuri fits fine. She's T'Challa's sister who is an heir to the throne and received the same training as T'Challa, but is the more traditional of the two due to her upbringing (being educated in Wakanda, rather than the West). You basically have a character with in-story legitimacy that has some clout, can kick ass and take names, can balance out T'Challa in certain occasions, while not being a damsel in distress nor a love interest. That fits well in the BP mythos and would fit great in the film, imo.

Hunter and Shuri can definitely co-exist. They have different raison d'etres and despite apparent similarities, they don't have the same viewpoints (Hunter can be very ruthless and, imo, can be considered an extremist. Shuri would never do what Hunter has done in The Client and Enemy of the State, for example) nor do they use the same methods. Unlike Shuri, Hunter never had a chance for the throne and had a lot of trouble being accepted (by someone besides T'Chaka and Ramonda), which is an important distinction for both characters. Also important: T'Challa may confide in Shuri. He would not do so with Hunter, he doesn't trust him (historically).

Monica and Shuri are very different characters, outside of being women. Besides being a member of the royal family (and the experience and education that comes with it), Shuri is a warrior in her own right. Monica is a jazz singer from a middle class family in the U.S. They have very different purposes, viewpoints, and don't overlap. They will fit in just fine.

I don't see how Shuri takes away from W'Kabi either.

In all, all four in their historical iterations can not only be in the film but will contribute a lot, imo. Although, one guy I would be surprised if he makes it is Hunter, simply because he hasn't been used consistently in the comics in a very long time. But I would welcome it.

P.S: Monica, the "competent black character" ?:viw:

(Had to tease you for that one, couldn't help it :))
 
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If Shuri appears (and particularly if Marvel got someone like Nyong'o), I'll literally be counting down the minutes until she replaces T'Challa.

If 'inhuman' is replacing 'mutant' in MCU, I see no reason why Marvel wouldn't have the 'bright' idea of pushing Shuri as their Storm.

We do need a strong black female superhero (really, we need multiple). But I'd love to see them utilize ones with unique stories, their own agency. I'm sure many will disagree with me, but I just find gender swaps of male heroes (generally) to be "me-too". Their gender is their appeal and little else. Why not highlight characters like Monica Rambeau, Misty Knight, Ladyhawk, Silhouette (I know she's a mutant, but as she was a primarily a New Warrior, maybe Marvel still has the rights in a SW/QS-type scenario), who stand on their own much more?

T'Challa has such a rich history to draw from. In the comics, after decades in action, it makes a little more sense, it shakes up the status quo and allows for writers to put a twist on things. In the films, however, I'm not ready for even the allusion of a switch after a few appearances. I want to bask in the awesomeness of 'the' Black Panther as long as possible. (Similarly, I'm not terribly excited at the prospect of Captain Falcon or Bucky Cap in the MCU; Evans is doing a great job.)

I also feel like Shuri, particularly, is often written in the perfunctory stereotype of an 'angry black woman'. Catty. Aggressive. Obstinant. Coveting the BP mantle. Seeing a Monica Rambeau serving as a Harbor Patrol officer, getting powers, using it for good, going through a true hero's journey. That would be awesome, and the type of story that truly serves the audience. She could be the Ant-Man type sleeper hit of a future Phase if they really wanted to commit to it.

Shuri just kind of whines in the background until she gets what she's always been covetous of in a desperate moment and fills the mantle of something pre-established. Very easy to appear cut-rate that way, which, imho, is a disservice to everyone. (And as much as I love Jim Rhodes in the comics, we've seen Marvel do exactly that to him in the MCU; He's not much more a cut-rate Iron Man and often the butt of a joke or easily being defeated.)
 
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If Shuri appears (and particularly if Marvel got someone like Nyong'o), I'll literally be counting down the minutes until she replaces T'Challa.

I genuinely don't think it will happen anytime soon. She can play a (key) supporting role and continue to have her own identity that isn't exclusively tied to her simply being T'Challa's sister. It's been done in the comics and I'm sure it can be done on film.

If 'inhuman' is replacing 'mutant' in MCU, I see no reason why Marvel wouldn't have the 'bright' idea of pushing Shuri as their Storm.
In what sense? As in making her their premier black female character (which isn't a bad thing at all)? If so, she doesn't need to be Black Panther for that to happen.

We do need a strong black female superhero (really, we need multiple). But I'd love to see them utilize ones with unique stories, their own agency. I'm sure many will disagree with me, but I just find gender swaps of male heroes (generally) to be "me-too". Their gender is their appeal and little else. Characters like Monica Rambeau, Misty Knight, Ladyhawk, Silhouette (I know she's a mutant, but as she was a primarily a New Warrior, maybe Marvel still has the rights in a SW/QS-type scenario).

T'Challa has such a rich history to draw from. In the comics, after decades in action, it makes a little more sense, it shakes up the status quo and allows for writers to put a twist on things. In the films, however, I'm not ready for even the allusion of a switch after a few appearances. I want to bask in the awesomeness of 'the' Black Panther as long as possible. (Similarly, I'm not terribly excited at the prospect of Captain Falcon or Bucky Cap in the MCU; Evans is doing a great job.)
The Black Panther mantle is unique in that its literally a title. A title that has passed down from generation and generation, and even had women donning in it in the past. It isn't inherently exclusive to T'Challa.

And again, I genuinely don't think T'Challa will lose the mantle anytime soon. And I don't that to happen either. I'm all for Shuri to have her own identity. It's beneficial to both the BP mythos and comics at large.

And lastly, the last thing that is appealing to me concerning Shuri is her gender. That she is a woman happens to the icing on the cake.

I also feel like Shuri, particularly, is often written in the perfunctory stereotype of an 'angry black woman'. Catty. Aggressive. Obstinant. Coveting the BP mantle. Seeing a Monica Rambeau serving as a Harbor Patrol officer, getting powers, using it for good, going through a true hero's journey. That would be awesome, and the type of story that truly serves the audience. She could be the Ant-Man type sleeper hit of a future Phase if they really wanted to commit to it.

Shuri just kind of whines in the background until she gets what she's always been covetous of in a desperate moment and fills the mantle of something pre-established. Very easy to appear cut-rate that way, which, imho, is a disservice to everyone. (And as much as I love Jim Rhodes in the comics, we've seen Marvel do exactly that to him in the MCU; He's not much more a cut-rate Iron Man and often the butt of a joke or easily being defeated.)
Shuri has been a victim of bad writing after she first got BP mantle in Deadliest of the Species. Other books gave her good moments, but they were far and few inbetween. This hasn't helped her case in the eyes of many fans, BP fans included.

I would recommend reading her appearances in Black Panther: The Most Dangerous Man Alive by David Liss and New Avengers / Everything Dies / Time Runs Out by Jonathan Hickman. In those stories you see a mature ruler who loves her brother and her people, and is a staunch protector of her country and its interests. You also see that she is the more traditional of T'Chaka's two children and it shows in her political actions. She has her own agency and is a different person from her brother. Which, again, is a good thing for both the BP mythos and comics.

Give her the same personality traits she had in those stories and a combat suit that isn't the black panther outfit (I nominate the armored combat suit she had in DoomWar) and you have a very viable character for both the BP solo film and beyond.
 
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I think Hunter would make a more interesting pro-Wakandan character. Monica Lynn is likely the competent black character. And I feel W'Kabi would be reduced in role by Shuri as well. I have no objection to Shuri. I think she can make for an interesting character if done right, but I also don't think she's necessarily if she doesn't fit.

A quick note about Hunter that I just realized.

Though I like Hunter as a character, his version of being pro-wakandan is quite extreme, as the methods he employs to achieve his goals are very prone to jingoism (though its well explained why he does what he does). It's very easy for most readers to side with T'Challa's perspective on that issue.

Meanwhile, Shuri's version of being pro-wakandan is much more moderate, for a lack of a better word. It also, imho, is a much better counter-balance to T'Challa's overall ideologies. During Hickman's New Avengers, there were moments were I actually sided with Shuri, rather than T'Challa. And T'Challa is my favorite character in comics.

With that said, I'd love for both Shuri and Hunter to be involved, both in comics and even film. I don't think they've interacted much in comics, if at all. Would be a very interesting read.
 
I think T'Challa's sister should be in the movie (which isn't a given, she's a recent creation). I don't think she should become Black Panther. And I don't mean save it for later, I don't think she should become Black Panther period. There are other characters to focus on more, while having her become the leader makes her the center of the story.

Boseman has a 5-movie deal as Black Panther, the and she should not even be considered for wearing the mantle until the 4th or 5th film, and it should be temporary at best (T'Challa recovering from illness/injury).
 
Boseman has a 5-movie deal as Black Panther, the and she should not even be considered for wearing the mantle until the 4th or 5th film, and it should be temporary at best (T'Challa recovering from illness/injury).

I don't think she will have the mantle at all, imho (even temporarily). However, Shuri doesn't need the mantle to be an effective character.
 
I prefer Lupita as a Dora Milaje than Shuri.

My top choices are Tika Sumpter and Rutina Wesley.
 
I prefer Lupita as a Dora Milaje than Shuri.

My top choices are Tika Sumpter and Rutina Wesley.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the Dora Milaje will be played by glorified extras. You really don't need great actors for them.
 
After looking at this pic I think I have to change my mind again. They really do look like siblings.

Sibling photos for the Royal photo album.

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This reminds me of Lupita for some reason.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the Dora Milaje will be played by glorified extras. You really don't need great actors for them.

The vast majority of them yes, but there should be at least two or three that are speaking parts.
 
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So now that Lupita is Nikia, who would be a good choice for Shuri? I was trying to stick with actresses who are from Africa but keep coming up emty.
 
Any competent black actress of a suitable age and can do a convincing accent would suffice. She wouldn't necessarily have to be an African native.

That being said, with the way T'Chaka was cast out of the blue, I wouldn't be surprised if Shuri just shows up in a BP film with no casting hype whatsoever.

Now off the top off my head, I'm thinking maybe Keke Palmer could be a suitable choice.
 
Chadwick and Tika used to date, that would be awkward lol

Teyonah Parris or Rutina Wesley.

Any competent black actress of a suitable age and can do a convincing accent would suffice. She wouldn't necessarily have to be an African native.

That being said, with the way T'Chaka was cast out of the blue, I wouldn't be surprised if Shuri just shows up in a BP film with no casting hype whatsoever.

Now off the top off my head, I'm thinking maybe Keke Palmer could be a suitable choice.

Yeah I could see her being planted in as a cameo.
 
How about Gugu Mbatha-Raw from Concussion? I think this is a very good up and coming actress but I am not sure if she has the right look (skin too light?) to be Chadwick's sister though.
 
Teyonah Parris or Rutina Wesley.

Teyonah Parris would be great.

How about Gugu Mbatha-Raw from Concussion? I think this is a very good up and coming actress but I am not sure if she has the right look (skin too light?) to be Chadwick's sister though.

Gugu's a good actress but you answered it yourself: not the right look. Shuri isn't biracial, not to mention she's T'Challa's sister. It would be jarring.
 

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