Long and SPOILER filled synopsis of Thor Ragnarok

[sergeantbucky]

Thanks Draeck!

 

[CaptainMarvel19]

hm wouldn't it make more sense if Thor, Valkyrie, Hulk and Loki fought Hela and beat her???

I doubt that she is above them when they fight her together... is she???

 

[First Avenger]

hm wouldn't it make more sense if Thor, Valkyrie, Hulk and Loki fought Hela and beat her???

I doubt that she is above them when they fight her together.

I like that she is so powerful Thor has to make a drastic choice in order to defeat her.

 

[Ikol]

I don't believe Loki is just evil. Neither does Thor (he says that there might be good still in him), or any of the actors or producers in the MCU. It's far more complex than that.

If Loki was a one-note villain he would have died after the first Avengers' movie, there is a reason why he stayed both alive and relevant until phase 3.

I understand I can be biased since I'm a Loki fan, and I know the things he has done were terrible (trying to kill Thor, conquering Earth, taking Odin's place and indirectly killing him), I fully understand why people want Thor to just kill him. Nevertheless, I will still defend Loki. Why? Because I can see where he's coming from and why he did the things he did. I'm not saying I approve of them, but I can understand his resentment and sorrow.

First of all, let's look at Odin. People have been joking that the only one of his kids didn't turn evil and insane. Why would that be? Thor was raised as a golden son of Asgard, adored by all, and no matter how much he and his father clashed, Odin clearly loved and was proud of him. Hela was a warlord and apparently raised to be one until her father grew a conscience and banished her because he couldn't control the daughter he raised her to be. Loki was adopted in secret, raised believing Jotuns were monsters, believing he was an Odinson and wondering why he couldn't be the warrior Thor was only to find out on his own that he was the runt son of Laufey, left to die by his birth parents and taken to Asgard to unite Asgard and Jotunheim as a political tool.

Odin utterly failed as a parent to both Hela and Loki.

Then there's the relationship between Thor and Loki. I do believe Thor loves Loki, but he never tried to understand him. As we've seemed in the first Thor movie, Thor expected Loki to go along with his adventures whether he liked or not (the "Get Help" scene is a good example of this, as funny as it is, it clearly shows Thor's mindset when Loki's says he finds it humiliating while Thor brushes it off with "Not to me is not"), he didn't acknowledge Loki's sorcery as a valid calling it tricks, he thought of himself as superior to Loki as seen when they were in Jotunheim and Loki warns him they are outnumbered, Thor answers "Know your place, brother!".

Now, does that mean I approve Loki's actions? No. I wished he could change and stop trying to backstab Thor or grow more selfless, but I also wished Thor could have considered why Loki behaved the way he did and try to understand him a little (which happened in the comics, Thor admitted that he had been a bully when they were growing up, I would have loved to see him acknowledge that he hadn't been the perfect brother either).

They both need to grow. Thor might have grown a since the first movie, but there are still key aspects of his personality that clearly haven't. He's still arrogant, brash, a bit of a bully and, frankly, uncaring. Loki might have deserved to be left in Sakaar with the obedience disk, but having Thor happily leave him there while he's being electrocuted tells me he hasn't changed that much from the guy who killed a bunch of Frost Giants for calling him a princess.

This movie could have had a scene similar to the one between Gamora and Nebula, it fleshed out Nebula's character and improved Gamora's too by having her realize that she could have spared Nebula's suffering but didn't out of fear of Thanos. It didn't portray Gamora as evil because, in the end, she acknowledges that she wished she could have protected her sister.

Like Loki isn't completely evil, Thor isn't completely good. And maybe that's what makes them so interesting and their relationship one of the best in the MCU.

Again, this is simply my opinion.

 

[CaptainMarvel19]

I like that she is so powerful Thor has to make a drastic choice in order to defeat her.

true though its weird that all four of them together cannot beat her.

 

[Loki882]

Disappointing that The Warriors Three get punked out again apparently (and Lady Sif isn't even there at all). And hopefully Hela isn't actually dead (her being a one and done baddie would be such a waste).

Still it sounds like I'll probably enjoy Valkyrie and Grandmaster especially (given these description).

 

[Sigrunn]

I don't believe Loki is just evil. Neither does Thor (he says that there might be good still in him), or any of the actors or producers in the MCU. It's far more complex than that.

If Loki was a one-note villain he would have died after the first Avengers' movie, there is a reason why he stayed both alive and relevant until phase 3.

I understand I can be biased since I'm a Loki fan, and I know the things he has done were terrible (trying to kill Thor, conquering Earth, taking Odin's place and indirectly killing him), I fully understand why people want Thor to just kill him. Nevertheless, I will still defend Loki. Why? Because I can see where he's coming from and why he did the things he did. I'm not saying I approve of them, but I can understand his resentment and sorrow.

First of all, let's look at Odin. People have been joking that the only one of his kids didn't turn evil and insane. Why would that be? Thor was raised as a golden son of Asgard, adored by all, and no matter how much he and his father clashed, Odin clearly loved and was proud of him. Hela was a warlord and apparently raised to be one until her father grew a conscience and banished her because he couldn't control the daughter he raised her to be. Loki was adopted in secret, raised believing Jotuns were monsters, believing he was an Odinson and wondering why he couldn't be the warrior Thor was only to find out on his own that he was the runt son of Laufey, left to die by his birth parents and taken to Asgard to unite Asgard and Jotunheim as a political tool.

Odin utterly failed as a parent to both Hela and Loki.

Then there's the relationship between Thor and Loki. I do believe Thor loves Loki, but he never tried to understand him. As we've seemed in the first Thor movie, Thor expected Loki to go along with his adventures whether he liked or not (the "Get Help" scene is a good example of this, as funny as it is, it clearly shows Thor's mindset when Loki's says he finds it humiliating while Thor brushes it off with "Not to me is not"), he didn't acknowledge Loki's sorcery as a valid calling it tricks, he thought of himself as superior to Loki as seen when they were in Jotunheim and Loki warns him they are outnumbered, Thor answers "Know your place, brother!".

Now, does that mean I approve Loki's actions? No. I wished he could change and stop trying to backstab Thor or grow more selfless, but I also wished Thor could have considered why Loki behaved the way he did and try to understand him a little (which happened in the comics, Thor admitted that he had been a bully when they were growing up, I would have loved to see him acknowledge that he hadn't been the perfect brother either).

They both need to grow. Thor might have grown a since the first movie, but there are still key aspects of his personality that clearly haven't. This movie could have had a scene similar to the one between Gamora and Nebula, it fleshed out Nebula's character and improved Gamora's too by having her realize that she could have spared her Nebula's suffering but didn't out of fear of Thanos. It didn't portray Gamora as evil because, in the end, she acknowledges that she wished she could have protected her sister.

Like Loki isn't completely evil, Thor isn't completely good. And maybe that's what makes them so interesting and their relationship one of the best in the MCU.

Again, this is simply my opinion.

This is great writing.

Anyone who's willing to label Loki purely evil overlooks the facts that both Thor and Odin tried to wipe out worlds, one of them's succeeded more than once. Earth happened because of the Tesseract and Thanos as well as the end of Thor 1. Strangely there's a willingness to label Loki evil, whereas Thor or Stark are hailed as heroes. Thor could be seen just as "evil" as Loki.

 

[Marvelocity]

LOL this is flat out ridiculous. Loki not only tried to commit genocide against the Frost Giants but also killed hundreds if not thousands of humans when he led the invasion of the knockoff Skrulls against New York. Then he kills Odin in this newest movie. And Thor has done things just as worse? This is so bizarre. Loki is a cool character because he's so ridiculously twisted and evil. No one says you can't like him for that. But to act like he has any shred of decency about him is crossing into a new realm of weirdness.

 

[Ikol]

LOL this is flat out ridiculous. Loki not only tried to commit genocide against the Frost Giants but also killed hundreds if not thousands of humans when he led the invasion of the knockoff Skrulls against New York. Then he kills Odin in this newest movie. And Thor has done things just as worse? This is so bizarre. Loki is a cool character because he's so ridiculously twisted and evil. No one says you can't like him for that. But to act like he has any shred of decency about him is crossing into a new realm of weirdness.

I respectfully disagree. Calling Loki twisted and evil with no shred of decency is looking at the character very superficially. You could use that label to describe the Red Skull and Thanos, but not Loki really.

It feels like you're describing the old school, comic book Loki before the Siege of Asgard. He hasn't been that character in the comics since 2010 and he clearly isn't as evil and irredeemable as you claim.

It would be too simplistic to simply call him evil. He tried to destroy Jotunheim because they were invading Asgard and he wanted to prove to Odin that he was a worthy son, Thor tried to do the same thing at the beginning of the movie because they crashed his coronation and one called him a princess. As for the Earth invasion, Loki tried to commit suicide after falling from the Bifrost, we're not told what happened after that except that he allied himself with Thanos. Anyone can tell Loki was mentally unstable and let's not forget the influence of the Mind Gem with it's mysterious AI that eventually became Ultron inside of the Gem. It turned all the Avengers into jerks when they were near it, so it's plausible it affected Loki's mindstate as well.

But even if it didn't, Loki was raised believing in conquest. Odin did it with several realms and the reason Thor grew out of it was because of his time on Earth. When Thor tells Loki to look around and he sees the destruction of NY, you can't tell he doesn't like it or want it, but believes it's too late to go back.

You are free to have your opinion, but I honestly will never agree that Loki is simply twisted and evil.

 

[Kstep]

I don't believe Loki is just evil. Neither does Thor (he says that there might be good still in him), or any of the actors or producers in the MCU. It's far more complex than that.

If Loki was a one-note villain he would have died after the first Avengers' movie, there is a reason why he stayed both alive and relevant until phase 3.

I understand I can be biased since I'm a Loki fan, and I know the things he has done were terrible (trying to kill Thor, conquering Earth, taking Odin's place and indirectly killing him), I fully understand why people want Thor to just kill him. Nevertheless, I will still defend Loki. Why? Because I can see where he's coming from and why he did the things he did. I'm not saying I approve of them, but I can understand his resentment and sorrow.

First of all, let's look at Odin. People have been joking that the only one of his kids didn't turn evil and insane. Why would that be? Thor was raised as a golden son of Asgard, adored by all, and no matter how much he and his father clashed, Odin clearly loved and was proud of him. Hela was a warlord and apparently raised to be one until her father grew a conscience and banished her because he couldn't control the daughter he raised her to be. Loki was adopted in secret, raised believing Jotuns were monsters, believing he was an Odinson and wondering why he couldn't be the warrior Thor was only to find out on his own that he was the runt son of Laufey, left to die by his birth parents and taken to Asgard to unite Asgard and Jotunheim as a political tool.

Odin utterly failed as a parent to both Hela and Loki.

Then there's the relationship between Thor and Loki. I do believe Thor loves Loki, but he never tried to understand him. As we've seemed in the first Thor movie, Thor expected Loki to go along with his adventures whether he liked or not (the "Get Help" scene is a good example of this, as funny as it is, it clearly shows Thor's mindset when Loki's says he finds it humiliating while Thor brushes it off with "Not to me is not"), he didn't acknowledge Loki's sorcery as a valid calling it tricks, he thought of himself as superior to Loki as seen when they were in Jotunheim and Loki warns him they are outnumbered, Thor answers "Know your place, brother!".

Now, does that mean I approve Loki's actions? No. I wished he could change and stop trying to backstab Thor or grow more selfless, but I also wished Thor could have considered why Loki behaved the way he did and try to understand him a little (which happened in the comics, Thor admitted that he had been a bully when they were growing up, I would have loved to see him acknowledge that he hadn't been the perfect brother either).

They both need to grow. Thor might have grown a since the first movie, but there are still key aspects of his personality that clearly haven't. He's still arrogant, brash, a bit of a bully and, frankly, uncaring. Loki might have deserved to be left in Sakaar with the obedience disk, but having Thor happily leave him there while he's being electrocuted tells me he hasn't changed that much from the guy who killed a bunch of Frost Giants for calling him a princess.

This movie could have had a scene similar to the one between Gamora and Nebula, it fleshed out Nebula's character and improved Gamora's too by having her realize that she could have spared Nebula's suffering but didn't out of fear of Thanos. It didn't portray Gamora as evil because, in the end, she acknowledges that she wished she could have protected her sister.

Like Loki isn't completely evil, Thor isn't completely good. And maybe that's what makes them so interesting and their relationship one of the best in the MCU.

Again, this is simply my opinion.

I agree.
Again while I have my theories as to why Loki does things, some which you addressed, and the theory that circles the web the Thanos tortured him (did he or didn't he?) I do wonder if Loki is just playing everyone. Many have placed him on a road to redemption. I wrote a post on this wondering if he was or wasn't on that road or if he was just playing us.

As for Loki I don't see him as just evil, but I don't think he is being truthful either. Tom Hiddleston has said that he is still trying to figure out what Loki wants, and the he also doesn't believe that Loki hates Thor or Odin, but that he still loves them, but is hurt. Now does him having all these feelings make up for what he did? No. Did I think even if force and now regrets what he did on Earth that he didn't enjoy it? Of course he enjoyed it, at least at first.

But to simply label him as evil when we've been shown there are more layers to him is simply IMO not right. Again why do people label Thor, Odin, and even Stark heroes if they've done or tried to do just a much damage.
As you pointed out the Odin wiped out places, Thor tried, and even Stark built weapons meant to kill and wipe places out. let's not forget his weapons cause major pain for the twins.

In conclusion, as much as I think Loki is good and is going to end up on that side in the final battle, I'd be foolish if I thrown around his personally. Loki's personally is to cause mischief and chaos and benefit himself. While he might be turning, I do still have to wonder if he is playing us all.


Which is one reason why Loki is my favorite. He has so many layers and you simply don't know where he is going to fall in the end until it gets here, and Tom Hiddleston brings it all out brilliantly.

I also agree with you comments about Thor. He might have wised up to Loki's tricks and expected him betrayal, but I don't think he has wised up to Loki's deeper side. The side that's still hurt by his family's actions and that is being bullied by Thor. I get thor standing up and doing that to Loki, but if the laughing and walking away well it still happens does still have signs of the Thor from 1.

Anyways, I'll make my final opinion after seeing the movie.
Also this is just an opinion and how we view Loki, don't get so upset if you find Loki to be pure evil but we see something more. It's okay that you do, so it should be okay for us to see other sides to Loki.


Sorry for any errors I'm on mobile and it's a *****.

 

[Kstep]

I'm going to put this on the spoiler thread to.
I'm over on tumblr and many are thinking that Grandmaster might have the hots for Loki, this is all due to the look that he gives Loki in that new contender clip.

So does anyone have an opinion on that? Because while I don't know when watching it if I see the same thing, it's an idea I like.

 

[jaqua99]

I don't believe Loki is just evil. Neither does Thor (he says that there might be good still in him), or any of the actors or producers in the MCU. It's far more complex than that.

If Loki was a one-note villain he would have died after the first Avengers' movie, there is a reason why he stayed both alive and relevant until phase 3.

I understand I can be biased since I'm a Loki fan, and I know the things he has done were terrible (trying to kill Thor, conquering Earth, taking Odin's place and indirectly killing him), I fully understand why people want Thor to just kill him. Nevertheless, I will still defend Loki. Why? Because I can see where he's coming from and why he did the things he did. I'm not saying I approve of them, but I can understand his resentment and sorrow.

First of all, let's look at Odin. People have been joking that the only one of his kids didn't turn evil and insane. Why would that be? Thor was raised as a golden son of Asgard, adored by all, and no matter how much he and his father clashed, Odin clearly loved and was proud of him. Hela was a warlord and apparently raised to be one until her father grew a conscience and banished her because he couldn't control the daughter he raised her to be. Loki was adopted in secret, raised believing Jotuns were monsters, believing he was an Odinson and wondering why he couldn't be the warrior Thor was only to find out on his own that he was the runt son of Laufey, left to die by his birth parents and taken to Asgard to unite Asgard and Jotunheim as a political tool.

Odin utterly failed as a parent to both Hela and Loki.

Then there's the relationship between Thor and Loki. I do believe Thor loves Loki, but he never tried to understand him. As we've seemed in the first Thor movie, Thor expected Loki to go along with his adventures whether he liked or not (the "Get Help" scene is a good example of this, as funny as it is, it clearly shows Thor's mindset when Loki's says he finds it humiliating while Thor brushes it off with "Not to me is not"), he didn't acknowledge Loki's sorcery as a valid calling it tricks, he thought of himself as superior to Loki as seen when they were in Jotunheim and Loki warns him they are outnumbered, Thor answers "Know your place, brother!".

Now, does that mean I approve Loki's actions? No. I wished he could change and stop trying to backstab Thor or grow more selfless, but I also wished Thor could have considered why Loki behaved the way he did and try to understand him a little (which happened in the comics, Thor admitted that he had been a bully when they were growing up, I would have loved to see him acknowledge that he hadn't been the perfect brother either).

They both need to grow. Thor might have grown a since the first movie, but there are still key aspects of his personality that clearly haven't. He's still arrogant, brash, a bit of a bully and, frankly, uncaring. Loki might have deserved to be left in Sakaar with the obedience disk, but having Thor happily leave him there while he's being electrocuted tells me he hasn't changed that much from the guy who killed a bunch of Frost Giants for calling him a princess.

This movie could have had a scene similar to the one between Gamora and Nebula, it fleshed out Nebula's character and improved Gamora's too by having her realize that she could have spared Nebula's suffering but didn't out of fear of Thanos. It didn't portray Gamora as evil because, in the end, she acknowledges that she wished she could have protected her sister.

Like Loki isn't completely evil, Thor isn't completely good. And maybe that's what makes them so interesting and their relationship one of the best in the MCU.

Again, this is simply my opinion.

Nebula is twisted. Loki is evil. Yeah, biased. Thor is good. Loki is evil. Look at serial killers, are they born evil? No. They experienced REAL abuse and REAL trauma, stuff that is retrospectively more significant than anything Loki dealt with.

As far as Thor 1, and Jotenheim, Loki was the villain of the movie. You are looking too hard into "know your place". Thor wasn't talking down to him. He was talking him up. Saying "Loki, we are fighting if we have to, we will not coward out". Also, the trip to Jotenheim was manipulated and planned by Loki. That is what he wanted to happen. You are justifying Loki attempting to commit genocide on the frost giants by using "good cause", yet, Odin attempting to make large scale kills (did he even) makes him bad? It doesn't work like that. That's
an argumentative fallacy, called confirmation bias. Loki's attempted genocide is consistent with in universe events. He tried to commit genocide and destroy a planet. He didnt do it for Asgard, he did it for himself. Your perspective of that movie is incredibly skewed.

The writers gave him a backround, depth, and humanized him. It doesn't change the fact that he tried to commit genocide twice, and tried and DID kill his brother. Having depth and a psychological structure doesn't take away from him being evil. Nor does it objectively demonize Thor as the abusive older brother you try to make him out to be. Thor has shown Loki nothing but Love and fights for good causes. He gave his life to Loki to spare a town.

Loki is no less evil than any other serial killer. That's just how it is. But this thread isn't about Loki, let's not derail

 

[ironman_rick]

Wow.......Thats some awesome synopsis. Kudos to the threadstarter.

 

[jaqua99]

I respectfully disagree. Calling Loki twisted and evil with no shred of decency is looking at the character very superficially. You could use that label to describe the Red Skull and Thanos, but not Loki really.

It feels like you're describing the old school, comic book Loki before the Siege of Asgard. He hasn't been that character in the comics since 2010 and he clearly isn't as evil and irredeemable as you claim.

It would be too simplistic to simply call him evil. He tried to destroy Jotunheim because they were invading Asgard and he wanted to prove to Odin that he was a worthy son, Thor tried to do the same thing at the beginning of the movie because they crashed his coronation and one called him a princess. As for the Earth invasion, Loki tried to commit suicide after falling from the Bifrost, we're not told what happened after that except that he allied himself with Thanos. Anyone can tell Loki was mentally unstable and let's not forget the influence of the Mind Gem with it's mysterious AI that eventually became Ultron inside of the Gem. It turned all the Avengers into jerks when they were near it, so it's plausible it affected Loki's mindstate as well.

But even if it didn't, Loki was raised believing in conquest. Odin did it with several realms and the reason Thor grew out of it was because of his time on Earth. When Thor tells Loki to look around and he sees the destruction of NY, you can't tell he doesn't like it or want it, but believes it's too late to go back.

You are free to have your opinion, but I honestly will never agree that Loki is simply twisted and evil.

Labeling Thanos as twisted an evil and superficial isn't true. He is more complex than Loki. Everything he does isn't for death, isn't for power, it's because he CAN. Because to him, life and existence has no meaning. Because HE has no meaning. He is sad, lonely, and philosophically and existentially confused. When you dive into the character, you see what Jim Starlin created. If there is ANY character who should get the MCU Loki fan defense, it is Thanos, the way Jim Starlin writes him. THAT..is a complex villain.

Yet, he is still evil.

 

[jaqua99]

I'm going to put this on the spoiler thread to.
I'm over on tumblr and many are thinking that Grandmaster might have the hots for Loki, this is all due to the look that he gives Loki in that new contender clip.

So does anyone have an opinion on that? Because while I don't know when watching it if I see the same thing, it's an idea I like.

Jesus.. Christ. It's been A LONG time since Lokinposters like you guys have been around these boards. Please keep this stuff to the Loki thread

 

[Kstep]

Jesus.. Christ. It's been A LONG time since Lokinposters like you guys have been around these boards. Please keep this stuff to the Loki thread

This is a thread about the movie is it not? Grandmaster and Loki are in the movie. This is something that might be within the movie, and I want an opinion on it. And this is for those that have seen the movie. You don't like or don't know then don't comment on it.

So can someone who has seen the movie give me an opinion on if they think if the Grandmaster was showing signs of having the hots for Loki?
Again people are basing this off the contender clip and while I like the idea, I don't know if I'm seeing it as having "the hots". Thanks

 

[Finarfiniel]

Thanks Draeck for taking the time to write up such a thorough, detailed synopsis of the movie. I've only skim read it because I want to go in not knowing absolutely everything, but kudos anyway.

I can see that the Loki fangirls have overtaken this thread so I'm out.

 

[jaqua99]

This is a thread about the movie is it not? Grandmaster and Loki are in the movie. This is something that might be within the movie, and I want an opinion on it. And this is for those that have seen the movie. You don't like or don't know then don't comment on it.

You made an account just recently to more or less inquire and spam about over the top Loki questions. I know my place here, and you have a right. But when you come in using tumblr (the home.of fan fic) as a source for determining something that is occuring in the movie, yeah, you aren't gonna be taken seriously.

No one who has seen the movie has alluded to this. Grandmaster doesn't have the hots for Loki and it clearly isn't something that may be in the movie.

 

[jaqua99]

Thanks Draeck for taking the time to write up such a thorough, detailed synopsis of the movie. I've only skim read it because I want to go in not knowing absolutely everything, but kudos anyway.

I can see that the Loki fangirls have overtaken this thread so I'm out.

I tried. This happened on TDW board too. There was one awesome spoiler thread, had all the greats, and these two Loki fangirls spammed the thread.. 30+ posts a day and were the only two posting in it for about 5 months. They literally ran everyone out of the thread

 

[Kstep]

You made an account just recently to more or less inquire and spam about over the top Loki questions. I know my place here, and you have a right. But when you come in using tumblr (the home.of fan fic) as a source for determining something that is occuring in the movie, yeah, you aren't gonna be taken seriously.

No one who has seen the movie has alluded to this. Grandmaster doesn't have the hots for Loki and it clearly isn't something that may be in the movie.

Actually I can ask what I want. Also just because it started somewhere you don't like means nothing. Theories start all over the place and sometimes they can turn out right. And you are right no one has alluded to this, which is why I am asking, DUH. Not all details are going to be mention and hell they might not even remember, which is fine, but if you want to know something then you ask.

And yes, I started this just recently to find out spoilers and OMG it's so shocking that I'm asking for spoilers about my favorite character. I haven't spammed. I've made posts. When something comes up I ask. Also I don't believe that any of my Loki questions have been over the top (of course I don't remember all I've asked). Then again it's Loki question so probably displeasing to you no matter what. Also I did try to ask for spoilers about Valkyrie, but that didn't work out. I also talked about Thor's lost eye, and tried to find out if anything happened with Topez, which also didn't go anywhere. So I guess she is just in the back and moves every now and then. I also asked if they did anything with Odin's body, I also asked how long Matt Demon's cameo was, because it made me cringe when I first read a report on it.

I am not sorry for ASKING for something I'm interested in. I'm not sorry for being LOKI FANGIRL and I am not sorry for having an OPINION.

I am however sorry to Draeck whom as been kind enough to do this.

Seems you have a problem with me simply because I am a Loki fan. Well sorry but he is in Thor Ragnarok. As for the discussion about good or evil that's simply a difference of views, an opinion. And that only started because I said it was horrible to leave someone being electrocuted and laughing at them.

Anyways once again sorry to Draeck and to those that aren't here for the drama.

 

[Kstep]

Thanks Draeck for taking the time to write up such a thorough, detailed synopsis of the movie. I've only skim read it because I want to go in not knowing absolutely everything, but kudos anyway.

I can see that the Loki fangirls have overtaken this thread so I'm out.

Bye

 

[Kstep]

Draeck,
I apologize.
I PMed you.
Answer if you like.

 

[Finarfiniel]

I tried. This happened on TDW board too. There was one awesome spoiler thread, had all the greats, and these two Loki fangirls spammed the thread.. 30+ posts a day and were the only two posting in it for about 5 months. They literally ran everyone out of the thread

I've seen it all on tumblr dude, it's nothing new to me. Some of them were throwing epic hissy fits over the fact that Thor threw something lightly at Loki, blatantly not even injuring him. It's bizarre. I love the TV Tropes page on such fans. I honestly think that Loki could murder a whole planet in cold blood (which is pretty much what he attempted to do in Thor) and his rabid fangirls would still be trying to excuse his behaviour. I really like Loki, I think he's a very interesting character with genuine depth, but sheesh...

 

[Kstep]

I've seen it all on tumblr dude, it's nothing new to me. Some of them were throwing epic hissy fits over the fact that Thor threw something lightly at Loki, blatantly not even injuring him. It's bizarre. I love the TV Tropes page on such fans. I honestly think that Loki could murder a whole planet in cold blood (which is pretty much what he attempted to do in Thor) and his rabid fangirls would still be trying to excuse his behaviour. I really like Loki, I think he's a very interesting character with genuine depth, but sheesh...

Sorry, but I wasn't one throwing a hissy fit over Thor throwing something at Loki. I am actually one that enjoyed it. As for Loki killing, I've openly said that I think he enjoys it and would do it again. Though I'm not blind to what they are trying to do with Loki, meaning maybe a redemption arc, but I also wonder if because Loki is Loki if it wouldn't just end up Loki playing everyone. I mean this does supposedly end up with Loki maybe with the Tesseract, that's major card he could play in IW for either side.

~~~~~~
Also characters who've killed planets and people have gotten redemption before. Anyone remember Darth Vader?
~~~By the way Loki is no where near the level of Vader's character, just pointing out the killing and redemption.

 

[Sigrunn]

I tried. This happened on TDW board too. There was one awesome spoiler thread, had all the greats, and these two Loki fangirls spammed the thread.. 30+ posts a day and were the only two posting in it for about 5 months. They literally ran everyone out of the thread

Would it not be easier to put a sticky at the top of the page saying "Loki fans not welcome here?"