M. Night Shyamalan: Rise and Fall

[DyeLorean]

For me the ending of Signs works because it works with the characters. It is, mostly, a character driven drama and how the alien plot fits with them is very interesting. I liked that it had something to say.

 

[SerialPeacemake]

The water thing makes sense if you don't see it as an invasion but a raid.They don't want Earth, they want to get out of there as fast as they could after they got as much as what they really after(humans), disposable element of their forces be damned.As said by others, it also fits with the characterisation and theme of the movie very well ( the whole rediscovering/affirming faith issue).

 

[DyeLorean]

Also, maybe they didn't know water affects them, basically because this is the only place we know of with water.

 

[SerialPeacemake]

Also, maybe they didn't know water affects them, basically because this is the only place we know of with water.

Doubtful, water is quite common in open space.There're more water in other celestial bodies in our own solar sytem alone than there're on Earth, not counting other region of space(one have open chunks of water large enough to submerge our own entire solar system).Chances re the aliens knew the risk but decided it was worthwhile.

 

[DyeLorean]

Maybe ice, but liquid water?

 

[SerialPeacemake]

Maybe ice, but liquid water?

Yes, water in all forms are plentiful .The statement in my earlier post however was about liquid forms of H2O, there're good probability there're more liquid water on Ganymede alone than there on the entire Earth.Oh,did I mentioned we found open floating body of water large enough to drown the entire sol system?

 

[Majik1387]

Considering random weaknesses aliens have had in other movies and media, I didn't mind water being their weakness.

 

[Thundarr]

I just watched "The Visit".

Shyamalamadingdong has not got his groove back.

Boring, predictable, not scary, and typical found footage crap.

 

[Loki882]

The water thing fails because it makes them (among other things) look like idiots. Seriously, they attack a planet that's mostly covered in the stuff that can kill them (and that rains down from the sky on a fairly regular basis), and don't bring any kind of protective gear/equipment. They apparently can build ships that can travel across the vastness of space, but cannot open simple doors. Oh and they bring no weapons with them besides poison gas.

And we can theorize all we want, but M. Night doesn't TELL us why they're this stupid, which is the hallmark of lazy writing. He needs to stop trying to be "deep" and spew his "message," and concentrate on the nitty-gritty of filmmaking/screenwriting (because he seems to have trouble with that).

 

[titansupes]

And we can theorize all we want, but M. Night doesn't TELL us why they're this stupid, which is the hallmark of lazy writing. He needs to stop trying to be "deep" and spew his "message," and concentrate on the nitty-gritty of filmmaking/screenwriting (because he seems to have trouble with that).

"Exposition and telling your audience things is lazy writing."
"Not having exposition and not telling your audience things is lazy writing."

Make up your mind, internet!

Spoiler

 

[Rocketman]

It's been suggested many times that the aliens don't know what water is, hence coming to Earth and not knowing that most of what Earth is made of will kill them. The criticism from the movie comes from people who only understand simple science - that ALL life must have water in the vast infinite universe. The possibility that this is a species that isn't comprised of water and never came into contact with it is too much for people. The other argument of condensation and water vapors having to kill them, because water is in our air at all times -- again, it's not stated in the movie that this doesn't harm them. It might make them sick or weak, hence why the one alien can't escape the pantry.

As for not knowing what a doorknob is and how to turn it, I don't understand the argument... Are they supposed to know what doors and doorknobs are in their home galaxy? Why is it assumed that they're vastly more intelligent than us on EVERYTHING and NOT just on the things that they understand from their home?

I mean, I just don't get why any of this needed to be fully explained. That would require whole paragraphs of dialogue like above. And then people would be complaining about the exposition.

 

[SerialPeacemake]

The water thing fails because it makes them (among other things) look like idiots. Seriously, they attack a planet that's mostly covered in the stuff that can kill them (and that rains down from the sky on a fairly regular basis), and don't bring any kind of protective gear/equipment. They apparently can build ships that can travel across the vastness of space, but cannot open simple doors. Oh and they bring no weapons with them besides poison gas.

The aliens attackd earth because the needed something on on this planet (humans) not bcause they wanted to colonize the planet.Imagine if we found something that is extremely vital to us on Venus, we would sure as hell try to get despite how hostilethe Venusian enviroment is.

As to why those guys lack any protective gears or weapon besides the poison gas, they obviously were expendables scout elements sent on a suicide mission.Penal battalion sent to clear mines and set signal flare don't need to be kitted like front line troops.It was implied that the Aliens dominated us on the battlefield yet we saw not a single battle oriented unit nor any combat crafts in the movie , chances are those things exist in the movie but they're just irrelevant to the story the movie conveyed.

 

[Matt Mortem]

How is The Visit getting good reviews? I can't bring myself to see it again. I was at an early test screening last year and I just don't know how they could salvage a decent film out of what I saw.

 

[DeGenerate10]

I hated the Visit but there's one part I'm confused about.

Spoiler

When the old man tells the boy he has a curse on him. The kid can't move. How the hell did the old man put a curse on the boy? Wasn't he just some old mental patient?"

 

[Matt Mortem]

I hated the Visit but there's one part I'm confused about.

Spoiler

When the old man tells the boy he has a curse on him. The kid can't move. How the hell did the old man put a curse on the boy? Wasn't he just some old mental patient?"

My guess is he was "frozen" with fear. Stupid writing more like.

 

[TheVileOne]

I hated the Visit but there's one part I'm confused about.

Spoiler

When the old man tells the boy he has a curse on him. The kid can't move. How the hell did the old man put a curse on the boy? Wasn't he just some old mental patient?"

Spoiler

Earlier in the movie, the kid talked about how he froze in a football game once. So he has a condition where he gets nervous and just tenses up and freezes up. I think that was setting up that later. Then he snaps out of it and tackles the old man, finally getting his game winning tackle.

Then he makes a stupid rap about the whole thing.

 

[TheVileOne]

How is The Visit getting good reviews? I can't bring myself to see it again. I was at an early test screening last year and I just don't know how they could salvage a decent film out of what I saw.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_visit_2015/

Certified fresh, but I'd hardly call them "good."

 

[terry78]

The reason the kid froze is because Pop Pop made him have a very ****** night.

 

[DyeLorean]

It's been suggested many times that the aliens don't know what water is, hence coming to Earth and not knowing that most of what Earth is made of will kill them. The criticism from the movie comes from people who only understand simple science - that ALL life must have water in the vast infinite universe. The possibility that this is a species that isn't comprised of water and never came into contact with it is too much for people. The other argument of condensation and water vapors having to kill them, because water is in our air at all times -- again, it's not stated in the movie that this doesn't harm them. It might make them sick or weak, hence why the one alien can't escape the pantry.

As for not knowing what a doorknob is and how to turn it, I don't understand the argument... Are they supposed to know what doors and doorknobs are in their home galaxy? Why is it assumed that they're vastly more intelligent than us on EVERYTHING and NOT just on the things that they understand from their home?

I mean, I just don't get why any of this needed to be fully explained. That would require whole paragraphs of dialogue like above. And then people would be complaining about the exposition.