Action-Adventure Mad Max: Furiosa Spinoff

[Punisher_MAX]

Yeah this movie needed to come out a year or two after Fury Road.

 

[Cap2024]

For what it’s worth, women and the 18-24 were not showing up as they did for Fury Road.

‘Furiosa’ Box Office Puts Brakes on George Miller’s Next ‘Mad Max’ Movie

Miller penned 'The Wasteland' as part of the development process for 'Fury Road,' but it may not get past the starting line.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

That’s odd. If anything I thought female viewership would remain about the same percentage wise or maybe go up.

Hopefully I don’t sound sexist in saying this, but I wonder if part of the appeal for women in Fury Road was that Tom Hardy is hot. I can see some women turning up for that. That is to say eye candy. While Chris Hemsworth is in it, they went out of their way to minimize sex appeal there in the film.

Any other theories on why women noticeably gravitated more to Fury Road than they did here?

(While it went down across the board, I don’t think that would impact the audience percentage breakdown in these regards)

 

[Spider-Fan]

For the record, I just said I personally wasn't interested in the movie which is a major problem for the film's BO since I'd be a decent bet to come watch it considering I've watched all the films.

No idea why someone would need to dissect it further than that.

I am not singling you out, but the overall temperature in this thread the last few days has been too high. Everyone needs a chill pill.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

 

[Black Narcissus]

On the bright side! This means I can enjoy the flick much sooner in my living room.

 

[Boom]

I liked it a lot. On the verge of loving it but not quite there after one viewing. It is almost a completely different flavor than Fury Road.

It's a shame if the box office disappointment effectively kills The Wasteland. Maybe there's a way to do that movie on a more reduced budget? Or maybe Furiosa finds a second wind on VOD release that minimizes the risk of another one? I dunno. Perhaps I'm already in the Bargaining stage.

If this is the one that Miller has to end with, hell of a way to send the franchise off. It'd have been nice to see Max one last time though.

 

[BobJM]

I enjoyed this; I’ll definitely catch it again when it’s streaming.

 

[blueharvest]

 

[king666]

Absolutely loved it and will hopefully watch it again soon.

 

[king666]

Thankfully I've gotten rid of any YT recommendations of those people but I was curious and good god...

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These people absolutely suck and they deserve all the cheesy Netflix trash they'll be getting once studios stop investing in directors like George Miller.

 

[Elayis]

It’s not the home run that Fury Road was but Furiosa is still a solid double. It’s nowhere near being a bad movie, but the narrative was a little unfocused for me, and yes the CGI was quite noticeable in almost every shot, sometimes painfully so. I wonder why Miller decided to forgo more practical solutions in favor of digital ones. Was it money, time, the ambition of the film, or the fact that he’s nearly 80 years old and digital was simply easier?

I will say that I’m really pissed that the trailers spoiled so much of the film, including the final confrontation. If you’ve seen the trailers you’ve basically already seen highlights of the entire film, and its unforgivable.

 

[TheVileOne]

It’s not the home run that Fury Road was but Furiosa is still a solid double. It’s nowhere near being a bad movie, but the narrative was a little unfocused for me, and yes the CGI was quite noticeable in almost every shot, sometimes painfully so. I wonder why Miller decided to forgo more practical solutions in favor of digital ones. Was it money, time, the ambition of the film, or the fact that he’s nearly 80 years old and digital was simply easier?

I will say that I’m really pissed that the trailers spoiled so much of the film, including the final confrontation. If you’ve seen the trailers you’ve basically already seen highlights of the entire film, and its unforgivable.

Not sure if this had an affect, but the movie filmed in Australia starting in 2022, not sure if they were still following COVID-19 protocols, so that might've been one reason.

But I recall many had similar problems with original Lord of the Rings trilogy compared to The Hobbit, all of which were directed by Peter Jackson.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Lily Adler]

Any chance this will pull a Greatest Showman?

 

[Zantera]

I've heard the "bad marketing" argument brought up in several different conversations with different people and it's interesting. At first I thought maybe the reason I was aware of the film coming for over a year was because I'm a movie buff who generally knows what's coming in the pipeline a year ahead (except for those weird surprises that just drop unexpectedly). But I wonder if maybe it's more of a cultural thing instead. I've heard from a few friends in America that they pretty much heard about this as it came out and had no idea it was coming. My experience here in Sweden is that even setting aside my knowledge that it was coming during the spring, I've seen trailers for it for like 2 months and posters here and there before it came out.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Regardless where the budget lands, Fury Road was either mildly profitable or lost money theatrically depending upon where in that spectrum it fell. Yes it's made money sense through VOD and such and it has a positive reputation overall. But in terms of sheer profit, it isn't exactly a major win. Which is why I think we have to accept this series just has a certain ceiling

If Fury Road was a massive success, we wouldn't of had to wait 9 years for Furiosa. It's really that simple.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Answered your question pretty easily.

You're already arguing in bad faith, you legitimately don't care about my answer. I told you what I liked about the series, but you just want to set yourself up to seem like you're right and I'm wrong, and you already did it earlier in the thread to someone else who didn't like the movie for their own reasons.

Fan is short for fanatic correct? I'd consider myself a Marvel fan, a Godzilla fan, etc. Do I appreciate the Mad Max universe? Sure, I always thought they were solid, fun, action packed movies. I wouldn't consider myself a "fan" in a true sense, but watching all the movies would make me the prime demo for Furiosa and, as I mentioned again, if they can't get someone like me into the theater that's bad news.

Literally not what you asked. You initially asked what I liked about the series. Acting like a victim must be exhausting. Anyway I answered...


Just to reiterate in case you miss it again, nothing about the movie is catching my attention. I'm sure the film may have elements that appeal to you or in general, but it just isn't swaying me enough to go to the movies.

The simple way would have been to say "Agree to Disagree" and moved on...but you didn't. I don't want to watch Furiosa and not interested in it, at least not until it streams, why is that such a hard concept to grasp? If you liked the movie, good, more power to you, but people are allowed to not like, or be interested in a movie, without being weirdly judged.

Now if I had said I'm not interested in Furiosa cause its "liberal woke bs" or some other inane reason, then that's absolutely a valid reason to be combative about it.

Why is the idea of more Furiosa as the lead not appealing to you?

As to what being a "fan" is. Rarely is it used to define fanatic devotion. People who watch their local sports team only when they have a run in the playoffs, are still described as fans. You defined yourself as being in the "fan group". That's the group fans belong to.

For the record, I just said I personally wasn't interested in the movie which is a major problem for the film's BO since I'd be a decent bet to come watch it considering I've watched all the films.

No idea why someone would need to dissect it further than that.

That's not's not the case. You said more. And I asked about the more. You don't have to answer.

So like how you said you don't want another Furiosa led movie. I'm curious why. Because if you've watched the others. Max has had 3 movies as the proper lead. Would you watch another Max led movie?

 

[DarkKnight88]

If Fury Road was a massive success, we wouldn't of had to wait 9 years for Furiosa. It's really that simple.

That has more to do with George Miller wanting to do another project, Covid etc.

If Fury Road wasn’t a massive success, WB wouldn’t have greenlit a 170M direct prequel in the first place.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That has more to do with George Miller wanting to do another project, Covid etc.

If Fury Road wasn’t a massive success, WB wouldn’t have greenlit a 170M direct prequel in the first place.

According to Miller and news reports, the idea was to od Furiosa after Fury Road, as the original intention was to do Fury Road/Furiosa together. There was then the lawsuit with WB over bonuses tied to Fury Road, which is when Miller switched his attention to Longing.

If Fury Road was a massive success, I think they just pay Miller his money and they make the sequel quickly. Because I don't think 7m is what you let get in the way of a sequel to a massive success.

 

[Spider-Fan]

That has more to do with George Miller wanting to do another project, Covid etc.

If Fury Road wasn’t a massive success, WB wouldn’t have greenlit a 170M direct prequel in the first place.

It isn't that black and white in this case. Fury Road was a moderate box office success with a lot of acclaim. So they probably thought it's reputation would boost its overall box office potential, which makes greenlighting it make sense. But it wasn't the studio's top priority. Hence the 9 year gap. If Fury Road had made Barbie money, it would have gotten a sequel well before it did.

 

[DarkKnight88]

I mean massive success in more than just box office dollars (which 400M worldwide while not Marvel but nothing to sneeze at for a dead R-rated niche franchise), huge critical acclaim, major awards buzz, and long legs in ancillary markets.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I mean massive success in more than just box office dollars (which 400M worldwide while not Marvel but nothing to sneeze at for a dead R-rated niche franchise), huge critical acclaim, major awards buzz, and long legs in ancillary markets.

I would agree taking into account acclamation and such, but in pure dollars and money made, it wasn't a huge money maker. But they probably were hoping for a BB to TDK situation. Cause similarly BB didn't make giant dollars on release, but it got massive acclaim. Difference being TDK didn't take 9 years to come out

 

[DarkKnight88]

I would agree taking into account acclamation and such, but in pure dollars and money made, it wasn't a huge money maker. But they probably were hoping for a BB to TDK situation. Cause similarly BB didn't make giant dollars on release, but it got massive acclaim. Difference being TDK didn't take 9 years to come out

Well yeah, I feel without Covid we might’ve got this 3 years ago.

But you’re right, I also think they were hoping for a BB to TDK situation or more recently Dune Part 1 to Part 2.

Hopefully Furiosa gets those legs as well in the ancillary markets. While I don’t think we’ll get The Wasteland in the version Miller imagined now, they may greenlight a lower budgeted version at some point. Hopefully in Miller’s lifetime.

Or it all gets the dreaded reboot in 5 years by some “visionary young director” with a “new take”.

 

[Filmfreak]

So I finally saw the film and have to admit the marketing did undersell it for me a bit. I loved all films and was definitely excited to see anything in that universe again but that was mostly to my fondness of this world, rather than the promos themselves, so I can understand why some people weren't sold on the film based on just what we saw in the trailers. Still it's extremely sad that there's a very strong possibility that we might not get to see another one of these, after such a bad box office opening.

In any case, the movie was great, Miller did it again! The pacing was fantastic, the action scenes were breathtaking and it was for the most part beautifully shot. Charlize is Furiosa for me but Anya owned the role in this more unripe version of the character. It was definitely the right move to recast if that's the story he always wanted to tell. Hemsworth was also a delight as Dementus. The new Immortan Joe was fine, but didn't wowed me like the late Keays-Byrne. I get that the went for a younger, cleaner version, but I don't understand how they didn't change his appearance at all in the 15 years that have passed between pre-teen Furiosa and adult Furiosa by the end of the film, like the did with Hemsworth. It's especially weird because they didn't have to do all that much since half his face was covered. Costume and vehicle designs were very creative as usual and even though I have no fondness for Tom AI-is-our-friend-Snyder-bro-I-got-too-old-to-be-credited-as-junkie Holkenborg I have to admit his score was formidable once again. The only thing that I didn't really buy in the film was the extremely rushed "romance" between Furiosa and the Praetorian guy. It could have led to a much more powerful final act had it been built up properly.

Regarding the CGI talk, yes, there were a lot of obvious green screens this time around, plus 2-3 moments were the animation was video game bad, but to be fair I personally have a very low tolerance for mediocre/bad visual effects these days. There weren't anywhere near the level of Marvel, DC or many Hollywood projects we've been seeing these past few years, but I can see how some people were partially bothered by it, especially since Fury Road seemed much better in that regard. However, A. there were a lot of great practical effects and impressive stunts too, and B. it's of little importance compared to the masterful direction, powerful themes and overall magnificent cinematic audiovisual experience the film has to offer.

Hopefully those legs are going to kick in and it could show WB there's still interest in this universe, because I need my Wasteland movie!

 

[Eddie Dean]

Well yeah, I feel without Covid we might’ve got this 3 years ago.

But you’re right, I also think they were hoping for a BB to TDK situation or more recently Dune Part 1 to Part 2.

Hopefully Furiosa gets those legs as well in the ancillary markets. While I don’t think we’ll get The Wasteland in the version Miller imagined now, they may greenlight a lower budgeted version at some point. Hopefully in Miller’s lifetime.

Or it all gets the dreaded reboot in 5 years by some “visionary young director” with a “new take”.

WB doesn’t own the rights to Mad Max, George Miller does so they literally cannot make a Mad Max movie without him.