Makeup

[The Guard]

My wife and some friends have had this discussion in the past, but I'm curious as to what people here think. What is the deal with makeup? Essentially, do you like it, believe in using it, etc?

1. Historically, why has it been used? If it's done to hide defects and blemishes, or put forward a "false face", do you consider this to be a good or bad thing?
2. Does it actually make people, in particular, women, who tend to use it more often, more attractive and desirable? Is this a good or bad thing?
3. Should women in particular be expected to wear it? Should men, if women are?
4. Would men benefit from it?
5. How early should people be using it?

 

[CelticPredator]

I use it for making effects in my movie films.

 

[Master Chief]

I had no idea how many chicks were wearing stuff like false eyelashes and hair extensions until a while ago.

It's all an illusion, and men don't need that s**t because we're all about delusion. copyright That Canadian Guy. :heart:

It's crazy out there. I'm indifferent about it. But when a girl can pull off no makeup, awesome.

 

[BatMatt]

When it comes to makeup, less is more. I think a little to highlight and accentuate features is nice, but nothing more.

 

[Drakon]

It can go either way. If a girl knows what she's doing with makeup, even some of the more extreme looks can be kinda sexy.

 

[katie_girl09]

Makeup is meant to accentuate beauty, not create it in some way. I know some men would certainly benefit from a little "nose-powdering". I also think that makeup is something a person should be eased into if at all. I didn't actually wear a full face of makeup until my prom night when I was 18.
I've found through experience that while most men claim to hate "falseness" (makeup, hair extensions, cosmetic surgery, etc.), a much smaller percentage of these men are actually truthful in said claim. They actually love it and encourage women to continue the practice by loving it.

***NOTE: Before someone starts it, I am not saying that this is true OF ALL MEN***

 

[Drakon]

I've found through experience that while most men claim to hate "falseness" (makeup, hair extensions, cosmetic surgery, etc.), a much smaller percentage of these men are actually truthful in said claim. They actually love it and encourage women to continue the practice by loving it.

Cause ALL men do this.

***NOTE: Before someone starts it, I am not saying that this is true OF ALL MEN***

Damnit!

 

[katie_girl09]

Hahaha!

 

[Gamma Ray]

Real men wear makeup.

 

[ross2287]

I went to high school with a girl who wore so much foundation--I think that's what it's called--that I could literally see a line separating her skin from her make-up. And she was our class president.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Makeup is meant to accentuate beauty, not create it in some way. I know some men would certainly benefit from a little "nose-powdering". I also think that makeup is something a person should be eased into if at all. I didn't actually wear a full face of makeup until my prom night when I was 18.
I've found through experience that while most men claim to hate "falseness" (makeup, hair extensions, cosmetic surgery, etc.), a much smaller percentage of these men are actually truthful in said claim. They actually love it and encourage women to continue the practice by loving it.

***NOTE: Before someone starts it, I am not saying that this is true OF ALL MEN***

I'm okay with makeup as it appears on occasion and if it isn't overwhelmingly obvious. I dated a girl once who insisted on bright red and yellow eye shadow that made her look like a cross between The Ultimate Warrior and David Bowie.

Real men wear makeup.

I've actually been known to wear makeup especially in my high school and college days. A little concealer never hurt nobody.

 

[Fry's Girl!!]

I had no idea how many chicks were wearing stuff like false eyelashes and hair extensions until a while ago.

It's all an illusion, and men don't need that s**t because we're all about delusion. copyright That Canadian Guy. :heart:

It's crazy out there. I'm indifferent about it. But when a girl can pull off no makeup, awesome.

My achille's heel. I blame my blonde eyelashes, its either fake or none.

 

[Gamma Ray]

I've actually been known to wear makeup especially in my high school and college days. A little concealer never hurt nobody.

Good for you. No reason why more men shouldn't.

I'm not talking about cross-dressing or trying to look effeminate. I'm talking about hiding imperfections and making yourself look how you want.

 

[Majic Walrus]

It can go either way. If a girl knows what she's doing with makeup, even some of the more extreme looks can be kinda sexy.

This is what Drak thinks is sexy:

Good for you. No reason why more men shouldn't.

I'm not talking about cross-dressing or trying to look effeminate. I'm talking about hiding imperfections and making yourself look how you want.

Exactly! Thanks. Men refuse to wear make up because they think it will make them effeminate, but in reality it's the reason actors and television personalities never have any imperfections.

 

[Drakon]

Mimi Bobeck was the basis for the Joker Mask from TDK.

 

[Majic Walrus]

I believe it.

 

[The Lizard]

After dating a woman for a while, it's always good to schedule a beach trip or pool party or some other kind of activity which necessitates the removal of makeup. You gotta get a good look at her natural face at some point.

 

[AndThePickles]

My wife and some friends have had this discussion in the past, but I'm curious as to what people here think. What is the deal with makeup? Essentially, do you like it, believe in using it, etc?

1. Historically, why has it been used? If it's done to hide defects and blemishes, or put forward a "false face", do you consider this to be a good or bad thing?
2. Does it actually make people, in particular, women, who tend to use it more often, more attractive and desirable? Is this a good or bad thing?
3. Should women in particular be expected to wear it? Should men, if women are?
4. Would men benefit from it?
5. How early should people be using it?

1. I don't specifically historically know why in terms of research, but I imagine it was used to enhance beauty...to make a woman's lips red, and her cheeks blushing. In days when paleness was the epitome of beauty, makeup helped with ladies who weren't naturally very pale.

In terms of hiding defects and blemishes, I see nothing wrong with that. Genetically, there are just some things that people can't do much about, such as bad skin, having eyelashes so blonde that you can't see them, having uneven skintone, redness, etc.

2. I think that women who wear it properly do benefit from it. Makeup is meant to enhance your natural beauty, so when a woman wears it with that in mind, it usually only makes her look better. I also think that being able to go out and wear dramatic makeup can be very exhilarating and fun. Sometimes there's just nothing sexier than a smoky eye paired with a sultry lip.

I have gotten attention both with and without makeup. However, I think I likely tend to get more when I'm all dolled up. Sometimes it's just about drawing attention to a certain feature that people might overlook...if a woman does her eye makeup properly, a person might notice, wow, she's got GORGEOUS eyes when any other time, he might be too busy staring at her boobs

3. I think that women ARE expected to wear it; no question about that. Should men be expected to? Some people may say "yes" due to gender equality, but I say no. I think makeup is fun; let us women have this particular beauty line.

4. Men could certainly benefit from using more beauty products, but I think skincare more than actual makeup. However, if a man is unhappy with a big pimple he's got in the middle of his forehead, why should he feel weird about wanting to hide it? I can see why he would be interested in using concealer. Same with undereye circles.

5. High school. In middle school, most girls experiment, but aren't very good at it. I cringe to think of my middle school makeup My mom wouldn't let me wear much, but my attempts to use it were horrible lol

 

[NotAHenchwench]

My wife and some friends have had this discussion in the past, but I'm curious as to what people here think. What is the deal with makeup? Essentially, do you like it, believe in using it, etc?

1. Historically, why has it been used? If it's done to hide defects and blemishes, or put forward a "false face", do you consider this to be a good or bad thing?
2. Does it actually make people, in particular, women, who tend to use it more often, more attractive and desirable? Is this a good or bad thing?
3. Should women in particular be expected to wear it? Should men, if women are?
4. Would men benefit from it?
5. How early should people be using it?

At the risk of this being tl;dr...

Well, I'm a freelance Makeup artist in my spare time, so I figured I'd answer this...

1. Historically, makeup has been used by women [and men alike] for a variety of reasons. It's mostly used to alter the appearance to appear more desireable. Something different about a person makes you notice them, right? It could be as simple as a flush to the cheeks or a scent as a person walks by.

2. As far as does it make a "woman" [I'm being gender neutral because men DO use makeup, especially in today's time, but I'll expand on that later.] more attractive... now-a-days it depends entirely on the person s/he's trying to impress. I love using makeup because I see it as a kind of artistic expression, a way to play with colors every day. One could say I could do a wardrobe, but with my complexion and things, me wearing a gold shirt isn't going to look very good if you catch my drift. I tell my clients that they should be getting makeovers to make them feel better about THEMSELVES. It shouldn't be about anyone else but YOU. I wear it for me, because it's fun.

3. I'm a firm believer that no one should be forced to do/wear anything they don't want to. I think if a woman feels better when she wears makeup, then she can wear it. If she doesn't, nothing wrong with that either. [But if your makeup is applied poorly, it makes me cringe ] I do know men who wear makeup. And before you go "ZOMG TRANNY!" I'm not even touching that group of people. Many men wear foundation, concealer, and sometimes a tinted chapstick/gloss on their lips. It's not as uncommon as you might think.

4. See above . Again, everyone is different. If you feel you'd benefit from evening out your skintone and using makeup, then do it. Nothing's stopping you but yourself.

5. This is a really hot topic on a makeup forum I frequent. In my personal opinion, I really cringe when I see a very young [talking 5th or 6th grade here] wearing anything other than maybe a colored lipgloss. I didn't start really wearing makeup until my Sophmore year at College because I didn't know what the hell I was doing. High school age should be something really neutral, and time [and money] should be spent on studying, not trying to look like a beauty queen. Again, it's personal preferance, but if I had a daughter, you can bet I wouldn't let her out of the house with a full face of makeup in high school.

I hope this helps, and if anyone has any more questions, I'd be glad to answer to the best of my ability

 

[Paradoxium]

I notice girls in a relationship tends to relax on the makeup department, and the girls who are single are the contrary. On top of dressier. Very easy to key in on girls through these cues in college.

 

[AndThePickles]

I notice girls in a relationship tends to relax on the makeup department, and the girls who are single are the contrary. On top of dressier. Very easy to key in on girls through these cues in college.

That's not always true. I love fashion and makeup and taking care of myself regardless of relationship status.

 

[NotAHenchwench]

That's not always true. I love fashion and makeup and taking care of myself regardless of relationship status.

Agreeeeeeeeeeed!

 

[Paradoxium]

Relax does not necessarily mean none. You could even be one of those I qualify as relaxed.

The only ones I do encounter who are overly consistent in dressy and makeup are actually the attention ****es. You know those girls that love the attention and have a couple guys orbiting around her, she puts this hold/cold fix on them, and the moment you go aloof on her despite her advances she iz in shocks .

Just personal observation and experience though.

 

[NotAHenchwench]

Relax does not necessarily mean none. You could even be one of those I qualify as relaxed.

The only ones I do encounter who are overly consistent in dressy and makeup are actually the attention ****es. You know those girls that love the attention and have a couple guys orbiting around her, she puts this hold/cold fix on them, and the moment you go aloof on her despite her advances she iz in shocks .

Just personal observation and experience though.

See, the problem I have with that is that I don't change my appearance based on my relationship status. I am who I am, and that's just the way it goes. Not everyone changes themselves just to find a mate... many do, but not everyone...

 

[Paradoxium]

I don't see the problem . I don't doubt you (or ATP). Most of all, it's not like I said I am against it to begin with.