Mark Millar's Many Thoughts On Superman

[Doctor of Doom]

Just to point out that it's unfair to claim that Millar has way overhyped it- (THis time at least)-

"The net is an endless source of non-news. This was the reporting of an informal chat in a Scottish newspaper where an American director asked me to join his team. He's pitching for Superman and this is in no way authorized by WB. Don't get too excited, folks. As I said in my first comment about this, this sort of thing happens every day and could amount to nothing. Bryan Singer still has dibs on Supes and this actioneer is only preparing his offer if and when Singer isn't doing it."

Straight from the man himself at his forum.

 

[green]

Heh...I do enjoy some of Millars works but the guy is soo full of himself sometimes.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Just to point out that it's unfair to claim that Millar has way overhyped it- (THis time at least)-

"The net is an endless source of non-news. This was the reporting of an informal chat in a Scottish newspaper where an American director asked me to join his team. He's pitching for Superman and this is in no way authorized by WB. Don't get too excited, folks. As I said in my first comment about this, this sort of thing happens every day and could amount to nothing. Bryan Singer still has dibs on Supes and this actioneer is only preparing his offer if and when Singer isn't doing it."

Straight from the man himself at his forum.

Ha! So much for that.

 

[SatEL]

I'm well aware of the Donner additives to Johns comics run on Superman, but the characterization of SUperman in SR is just still way off base and ruins anything positive in the film. The film's story is driven by Superman's out of character actions. That's also why I thought Johns would not care for it. Sort of like 'so close, yet so far away.' Those comic professionals are also in the position of knowing they'd never write Superman like that- deadbeat dad, 'baby daddy' storyline, so that might explain why they liked it. However, it's the fans that make or break the films, not the professionals.

Why would you be surprised SR's (Excuse my language) was a Wank fest to as he put it his "Mentors" Masterpiece.

 

[Dark Knight]

Just to point out that it's unfair to claim that Millar has way overhyped it- (THis time at least)-

"The net is an endless source of non-news. This was the reporting of an informal chat in a Scottish newspaper where an American director asked me to join his team. He's pitching for Superman and this is in no way authorized by WB. Don't get too excited, folks. As I said in my first comment about this, this sort of thing happens every day and could amount to nothing. Bryan Singer still has dibs on Supes and this actioneer is only preparing his offer if and when Singer isn't doing it."

Straight from the man himself at his forum.

Nice! Now we know Millars pitch is not the first option.....thank god...

 

[darknite17]

Big name Action Director at WB = Wolfgang Peterson or Tony Scott

 

[Dr Strange]

I believe that they should do a reboot, the Superman Franchise needs it, we have had Donner Superman which i loved then we had Singer's Superman which was like the biggest Donner fan in the world making his own film based on that franchise, even though i liked Brandon Rough he was basically being Christopher Reeve, I am ready for something alot different.

 

[Dark Knight]

Big name Action Director at WB = Wolfgang Peterson or Tony Scott

Tony Scott would be a baaaaad choice....

Ridley is would be a different story....

 

[Maze]

Well it can't be either Wolfang, Riddley or Tony, Millar is talking about a very well known American action director (who has huge pulls at Warner).

 

[The son becomes]

"Bryan Singer still has dibs on Supes and this actioneer is only preparing his offer if and when Singer isn't doing it."

Straight from the man himself at his forum.

To me that's nothing but good news. Proves how much the net can hype things up - which I'm sure Millar can't be too upset with, otherwise why say it at all unless you're trying to gather momentum.

I believe that they should do a reboot, the Superman Franchise needs it, we have had Donner Superman which i loved then we had Singer's Superman which was like the biggest Donner fan in the world making his own film based on that franchise, even though i liked Brandon Rough he was basically being Christopher Reeve, I am ready for something alot different.

I have to say that's one the better posts I've read, no aggression, no shouting just expressing an opinion. Even though I disagree, there's no way you can do anything but accept it as a valid viewpoint.

 

[Dark Knight]

Well it can't be either Wolfang, Riddley or Tony, Millar is talking about a very well known American action director (who has huge pulls at Warner).

Exactly, none of those guys are American. I'm thinking maybe Snyder....

 

[the GRIN Reaper]

Superman: Birthright ... best Superman graphic novel all-time. Contemporary, has meaning, a vulnerability to the hero, relatable world scenarios, just superior characterizations. Birthright needs to be the blueprint much the way Year One / Man Who Falls was for BATMAN BEGINS.

 

[charl_huntress]

Boy, I love how people continue to call Supes "deadbeat dad", when they don't know what a "deadbeat dad" is. If you know your son exist & don't care about him along with not paying for child support, then you're a deadbeat dad. How the hell can Supes be one when he didn't even know he has a son until the end?!? Exactly. He always assume Richard was the father when he first saw the pic of him & Jason with Lois when he returned to Daily Planet. Supes visting Jason at the end is a sign he isn't a "deadbeat dad" & he is going to be there for him. Keep calling him "deadbeat dad", 'cause you're flat out wrong & that is a fact.

Whatever! I'm not going to go here. I've gone over this ground too many times. You like the movie. Leave it at that.

 

[Superman-Prime]

Heh...I do enjoy some of Millars works but the guy is soo full of himself sometimes.

Like I said... he's a moron.

 

[charl_huntress]

Superman: Birthright ... best Superman graphic novel all-time. Contemporary, has meaning, a vulnerability to the hero, relatable world scenarios, just superior characterizations. Birthright needs to be the blueprint much the way Year One / Man Who Falls was for BATMAN BEGINS.

I do like BR, but soul vision and Superman beign a vegetarian is ridiculous and stupid.

 

[Dangerous]

Singer's Superman = Ice - T
Millar's Superman = Soulja Boy

Nah, more like the other way round.

Ice T rules and Soulja Boy sucks ass.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I do like BR, but soul vision and Superman beign a vegetarian is ridiculous and stupid.

Agreed on all acounts.

 

[the GRIN Reaper]

I do like BR, but soul vision and Superman beign a vegetarian is ridiculous and stupid.

Can you see the forest beyond the trees? What does this have to do with anything. I said base it off Birthright. You don't need minute and importantless details like this for the character. It's give or take. Makes no difference in the overall scheme of things.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I do like BR, but soul vision and Superman beign a vegetarian is ridiculous and stupid.

Soul vision? LOL!

 

[charl_huntress]

Can you see the forest beyond the trees? What does this have to do with anything. I said base it off Birthright. You don't need minute and importantless details like this for the character. It's give or take. Makes no difference in the overall scheme of things.

All I am saying is that BR has a lot to do with Superman's soul vision. I don't ever want to see that crap because its f-ing stupid. Yes, I can see the forest with the trees, but you must agree that BR as a story had a lot to do with Superman's soul vision. That was my point....I just want those elements removed.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

All I am saying is that BR has a lot to do with Superman's soul vision. I don't ever want to see that crap because its f-ing stupid. Yes, I can see the forest with the trees, but you must agree that BR as a story had a lot to do with Superman's soul vision. That was my point....I just want those elements removed.

Exactly. Soul vision blows.

 

[DACrowe]

Look I'm all for a post-crisis Superman (though I do not dislike the pre-crisis take as that is the iconic one everyone thinks about, which we saw in Donner's film(s) and SR).

But a reboot? Why bother? The origin would still be more or less the same. Anymore time trying to 'humanize" young Clark and differentiate itself from what Donner did may look too much like Spider-Man. I say even if Singer/Routh are gone and WB tries a new take...no origin. Everybody knows it and don't take the lame "flash cuts in the opening credits" approach TIH did.

It is time to move on. I like the idea of the next movie just beginning with a new face, new look, no Jason or kid and Lex Luthor is a Machiavellan villain who is in the background. Have it be Brainiac who uses Luthor as a vessel to get to earth to do his wacky stuff. Then work up to Darkseid for the third and bring Luthor out in the sequels more, without him attempting any real estate swindles.


But a reboot origin movie, which is what Millar wants...I'll just take Singer's sequel. At least we're past the Christ imagery and onto supervillains. Millar wants to remain in pre-crisis continuity and the only difference is I think he wants to bring out more Christ imagery than Singer or Donner did and have Superman uninterested in Lois Lane. That seems to be the only differences in vision, and I really want to move past that.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Of course Milalr does NOT want to remain in pre-crisis continuity, he wants to take the concept and make a movie for the 21th century with that. And Donner's Superman is - obviously - based on the real Superman (the pre-crisis one, yeah, don't get started about the word "real", read it like: "who is true to the original iconoc concept") BUT his world is much more down-to-earth, than the comic Superman stories every were. There is LOTS of room. For example, "Clark Kent" was never such a buffoon in the comics like Reeve portrayed him. Where are the space villains and so on. GET VARTOX in the MOVIE!

 

[Agentdemon]

I don't see a problem with him being a vegetarian in the comics but I don't think his diet should be brought up in the films. Soul vision is a bit too much.

 

[charl_huntress]

Look I'm all for a post-crisis Superman (though I do not dislike the pre-crisis take as that is the iconic one everyone thinks about, which we saw in Donner's film(s) and SR).

That's muggle speak! Smallville has made a ridiculous mark on the Superman mythos, and when I say ridiculous...I truly mean ridiculous.

But a reboot? Why bother? The origin would still be more or less the same.

Simply....it may be the right thing to do for Supes overall. IMO, Singer painted himself in a corner by making Superman a whiny, unreliant jerk of a super hero. Still, I'm not totally sure of a re-start with the origin. I agree that it's pretty well known.