Mark Millar's Many Thoughts On Superman

[Showtime]

Thanks for answering so condescendingly. But alright so now we got concrete numbers. What happened with the money invested on failed projects? why does the media always include them as if WB was looking for SR to pay them off. Did they just write them off

So the whole "dropping the science" thing was just you being peachy? You would think that they would have paid them off previously and they wouldn't still be on the books. Although of course they want to "make up" the costs elsewhere it wouldn't be put into the SR bottom line.

Hold up you presented me exibits A through C up there but now say this? If you would've refutted the 200 million domestic from my previous post I'd understand this but all you addressed was the budget. So did it actually make 200 million domestic? it obviously had to be more right?

I am not sure what you're talking about, domestically Superman Returns made a bit over 200 Million, which is less then either of the choices I listed. So it didn't make its budget back which is what I said?

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Even Morrison said he pitched a movie and they rejected it so who knows what is up with them. At the same time though for WB to decide to go with a reboot I think that they must have had a pitched that they liked or a base to start from. I think it took them way to long to decide which route to go with so I'm betting that they heard one they liked.

Morrison, Millar, Geoff Johns, Mark Waid and Brad Meltzer made pitches to the studio...among others.

Funny how Millar was the only one to be mouthing off about it before and immediately after his pitch...

 

[Cain]

I am not sure what you're talking about, domestically Superman Returns made a bit over 200 Million, which is less then either of the choices I listed. So it didn't make its budget back which is what I said?

"Superman Returns didn't turn a profit domestically against it's budget which is where studios are always focused. "

Yeah I misread didn't as "did" when I read your post. I did have a few beers and weed earlier lol so my mind is still a lil hazy my apologies.

 

[Showtime]

"Superman Returns didn't turn a profit domestically against it's budget which is where studios are always focused. "

Yeah I misread didn't as "did" when I read your post. I did have a few beers and weed earlier lol so my mind is still a lil hazy my apologies.

Ahhh I see. Understood and understood. No problem.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Millar would probably take the pre-crisis concept of Superman and create a modern day version. I doubt he would transform Superman into a red ant.

 

[terry78]

Millar would probably take the pre-crisis concept of Superman and create a modern day version. I doubt he would transform Superman into a red ant.

I would pay good money to see this.

After viewing this, I now understand how that most recent arc with the insect queen was a homage to this issue.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm too nice and pure to be in this thread.

 

[Showtime]

Lets not go overboard.

 

[solidsnake86]

I would love to hear Geoff Johns pitch to the studio, but you are right, they didnt say anything until that MTV article came out. Unlike Millar who is constantly talking about it, I've never actually heard anyone do that if they were not hired yet. Just a question though, who exactly are they looking to hire first, the directors or the writers. Or do they plan on announcing them at the same time.

 

[dark_b]

I would love to hear Geoff Johns pitch to the studio, but you are right, they didnt say anything until that MTV article came out. Unlike Millar who is constantly talking about it, I've never actually heard anyone do that if they were not hired yet. Just a question though, who exactly are they looking to hire first, the directors or the writers. Or do they plan on announcing them at the same time.

i have never seen proffesional writters who are mature to do this.

 

[Showtime]

I would love to hear Geoff Johns pitch to the studio, but you are right, they didnt say anything until that MTV article came out. Unlike Millar who is constantly talking about it, I've never actually heard anyone do that if they were not hired yet. Just a question though, who exactly are they looking to hire first, the directors or the writers. Or do they plan on announcing them at the same time.

i have never seen proffesional writters who are mature to do this.

That is what I don't understand, if you are working on a high profile project with a studio or with a chance of pitching it to the studio, you usually don't go around talking it up like that.

 

[dark_b]

you see a lot of times directors,writters or actors about talking what they like. how they would love to be in a movie.
but when it comes to interviews. when an actor,director and writter is at the studio talking about a project it is over. after that until it is official you are quiet.
you even see people saying the famous ''no comment''. insted of lying they say ''no comment''. because they can not say anyhthing and because they dotn want to lie they say no comment.
this guy is saying that a big WB director wants HIM to writte the new movie. and this is going for months now.

 

[dark_b]

you dont hear a writter saying hey i was yesterday at WB talking about superman. maybe they will hire me. no if you see an interview that means that :
a) he was pitching a story and they didnt like it
b) they like it and he is now official the writter.

 

[dark_b]

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[solidsnake86]

I think its clear he probably wants fan support, problem is the fans aren't totally behind him. I can see why those other writers don't say anything because its probably upsetting to say you pitched an idea and it wasn't liked, it damages the ego, lol. Especially with the amount of people harping on getting comic book writers to write the movies. I think the best thing would be to hire someone to come up with the story and than pass it off to an actual screen writer kinda like what they did with TDK this time around.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Lets not go overboard.

lol

 

[dark_b]

I think its clear he probably wants fan support, problem is the fans aren't totally behind him. I can see why those other writers don't say anything because its probably upsetting to say you pitched an idea and it wasn't liked, it damages the ego, lol. Especially with the amount of people harping on getting comic book writers to write the movies. I think the best thing would be to hire someone to come up with the story and than pass it off to an actual screen writer kinda like what they did with TDK this time around.

what would fan support change?he thinks that if WB will see on the forums that fans like him that they will hire him?

do i really look that naive that if Millar mentions LOTR that i will like him?
really epic like LOTR? ohhhhhh i want babies from you.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

what would fan support change?he thinks that if WB will see on the forums that fans like him that they will hire him?

do i really look that naive that if Millar mentions LOTR that i will like him?
really epic like LOTR? ohhhhhh i want babies from you.

lol I understand completely what you are saying. I'm tired of the director/writers on these nerd projects bringing up LOTR's, It just makes them seem desperate.

 

[Crook]

People have already asked him about this on his forum. His reply was that whether he talks about it not, it won't affect anything going on within WB. He'll either get the job or he won't, without any outside influences.

 

[Showtime]

He talked about it on his forum. I'm shocked!

 

[I Am The Knight]

It would be funny if he ends up writing it, after all...

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

He talked about it on his forum. I'm shocked!

Exactly. Man is a self promotional ****e as far as I'm concerned.

It would be funny if he ends up writing it, after all...

Funny to you, sad to me.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Exactly. Man is a self promotional ****e as far as I'm concerned.

Funny to you, sad to me.

Hey, you never know how his movie could turn out. We could all be crying when all is said and done...Or laughing like hyenas with happyness

 

[Showtime]

It would be funny if he ends up writing it, after all...

If he is involved I can see them using his story ideas and him getting a story credit with screenwriters coming in to work on it.

Exactly. Man is a self promotional ****e as far as I'm concerned.

If this is all it is, then there is nothing wrong with that, but I'd like to know which it is.

 

[The Guard]

It's not that he's unaware of the potential if anything it's that he realizes that there are so many ways to use the character and his world outside of this post-crisis rut people seem to be stuck on. The version he does understand just fine happens to be the version that was around for the majority of the character's history. The one we've never really seen explored in any adapted media in decades time so at this point it'd be something fresh again. There is plenty of potential in awesome storytelling with the pre-crisis Superman if Morrison's All-Star series has showed us anything it's that.

I'll bite. How does Post-Crisis Superman preclude the use of any of the elements Millar is talking about?

Gotta be honest...to me, this Pre-Crisis/Post-Crisis argument is just absurd. I can't take anyone who argues for or against one or the other seriously, because the solution to which one is use is obvious: both. It's just that simple. How can you honor a character's entire history when you're stuck on one particular version?

I could care less if the version Millar prefers is the version that was around for most of the character's history. All that means to me is that HE'S the one stuck in a rut. That version limits the character, by limiting his options and his development. Is that what Millar wants to do? Again, he seems to be more about the concepts involved. And that's all well and good, but so far, Millar's take on Superman is just...obvious. Using Krypton is obvious. Using Braniac is obvious. There's nothing new or interesting to it from what he's said, as far as I can tell. Could there be? Sure, but I have yet to hear a whisper of it.