Martin Campbell's Green Lantern.

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Just found this:http://www.pajiba.com/trade_news/th...ns-of-the-green-lantern-that-we-didnt-see.php

A very, very interesting read.

The most interesting part:

2) The Director’s Cut: There’s another interpretation of the movie that was actually filmed by Martin Campbell but left on the cutting room floor. A reader of ours, puppetdoug, left a comment explaining the original movie, and I did some research to confirm it. It sounds like a much better movie than what the studio gave us. Here’s his comment:

One thing I feel needs mentioning: this is not Martin Campbell’s cut of the film, but the studio’s. I live in New Orleans where it was shot, I read the shooting script, all of which was painstakingly filmed with intense research, and all of that was left on the cutting room floor — a sort of combination of what happened to Daredevil and Watchmen, respectively — character development sacrificed for CG, scenes made irrelevant by removing their setup. The movie in the theater starts with an explanation of mythos that is made redundant by the more natural, scripted questions from Hal when he gets the ring. Ten minutes of childhood Hal, Carol, and Hector that sets up Hal’s first ring construct is reduced to an awkwardly placed flashback in the middle of another scene. The training with the ring is almost completely excised except for one minor scene. Most appallingly, the ending completely deletes the fact that Kilowog, Sinestro, and Toma-Re arrive at the end and help Hal defeat Parallax. Not to mention Parallax was supposed to be a 3rd act reveal after we spend the film worried about Hammond going evil, not the main villain for the entire film. I sincerely hope we get a director’s cut or at least all the deleted scenes on the video release.

It did feel like Parallax’s presence throughout the film felt tacked on and out of order. Puppetdoug’s explanation resolves that. Would it have made for a better performance from Carol? No, but it would’ve been a cleaner more coherent story that placed more of the focus where it should’ve been, on Hector Hammond, instead of making him something of an afterthought.
 
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Most appallingly, the ending completely deletes the fact that Kilowog, Sinestro, and Toma-Re arrive at the end and help Hal defeat Parallax

Why cut that out ? The movie in theaters made the Green Lantern corps COWARDS
 
Yes, scenes were cut; but that was very early on in post production.

Sorry, that sounds like some wishful fan. The film we got is the one Capmbell set out to make. It sucks, but that's that.
 
Poni Boy,

I guess the question comes down to how many character beats that didn't deal with CG got cut...and when did that happen?
 
Avatar made over 2 billion. and they didnt finish every CGI scene.

GL is underperforming. WB will not spend money on finishing the CGI scenes for an extended cut.

about the character moments. they would have to recut the whole movie to make it work. which they can not do because the cgi scenes are important for the general flow.

i think realeseing the scenes as seperate deleted scenes will be the best.
 
Well, I'm of the opinion that helping the film out doesn't really need the scenes that involved CG. If you add character beats on Earth and if indeed that a full flashback of Hal and Carol's as kids during Martin Jordan's accident, I think you solve about 80% of the problems right there.
 
Poni Boy,

I guess the question comes down to how many character beats that didn't deal with CG got cut...and when did that happen?

I saw a few rough cut scenes with no effects added in (not even suits):

Sinestro pulls a battery out of a pocket dimension on Oa

Sinestro, Tomar, Kilowog (cardboard stand ins) in Coast City

Hal listening to the ring talk (this was back in January before the decision was made to go with 'Spidey Sense' instead of a sentient computer ring)

Martin Campbell extended scene

and a few others that I'll have to go through my notes to detail. Those shots were cut early due to the budget.

EDIT: Other scenes involving Hal, Carol and Hector that don't really need effects touch ups (they def would need color correction and lighting adjustment) may make it into a Deleted Scene feature on the home release, but I don't see WB pouring more money into generating effects for the other ones.
 
Most appallingly, the ending completely deletes the fact that Kilowog, Sinestro, and Toma-Re arrive at the end and help Hal defeat Parallax.

When I saw the film, I was confused as to how those three arrived just after the battle finished. Perhaps there were scenes planned to show the GLs fighting together and Hal delivering the final blow? Would have made more sense.
 
Poni Boy,

Yeah, any scenes involved extensive CG, I don't see them spending money on. But the Earth bound stuff that just involved Hal, Carol, and Hector are the ones I'm most curious to see if they'd make it back in.

The only reason why I'm curious is because if you seen any of Martin Campbell's films, they don't feel choppy like the second half of this film felt. They just don't. All of his films feel organic.

And it was just surprising to me that it was this choppy considering the director.
 
Poni Boy,

Yeah, any scenes involved extensive CG, I don't see them spending money on. But the Earth bound stuff that just involved Hal, Carol, and Hector are the ones I'm most curious to see if they'd make it back in.

The only reason why I'm curious is because if you seen any of Martin Campbell's films, they don't feel choppy like the second half of this film felt. They just don't. All of his films feel organic.

And it was just surprising to me that it was this choppy considering the director.

Maybe because... shockingly... Martin Campbell just didn't understand enough of the character to care? I mean, the guy has said over and over how much of a Bond and Zorro fan he's been for years. His favorite part of Green Lantern? Including Bzzd in the movie (for 0.5 seconds)
 
I like Campbell but WB should have chosen sombody who has a passion for this type of material,Not Just GL, but Science Fiction and Fantasy in general.
 
I can't fault the guy for trying to do something he hasn't done before. I mean, it's understandable why WB went to him. He's reinvented the same franchise, twice.

I can understand the hire...and it's evident in the action sequences.
 
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IMO, He brought a lot more to Zorro and Bond then just his talent for Action Sequences.
Sounds like WB didnt use him to his full capababilty.
 
Excuse making for the director. If he was upset with the cut this could have been "Allen Smithee's" Green Lantern.
 
Well actually, the childhood sequences have nothing to do with Martin Campbell. Those were written by Berlanti and company and the studio, so this article is confusing me. So not sure why including those sequences would make it the director's cut.
 
If the studio did change up what was originally intended, I wouldn't be surprised.

Some of the stuff like the childhood scenes and the final battle of Parallax versus Hal, Tomar-Re, Kilowogg, and Sinestro...I think it was Protocida who mentioned the details months ago.

Too bad, would've made the film better. I'd like to see a Director's Cut with what was intended, but the cost is most likely going to keep that from happening.
 
Wasnt there an effort by William Shatner to get funding for a new ending for Star Trek V to put out on DVD?
I also heard of an attempt by Joel Schumacher to put together a special Directors Cut of Batman Forever.
In both cases, they couldnt get the money or studio backing for it .
 
What about the Return To Krypton scene?



Oh wait....
 
The person lost me when they mentioned Watchmen...only one major development scene was cut from the theatrical version and even that didn't "water down" the movie ala Daredevil.
 
Just found this:http://www.pajiba.com/trade_news/th...ns-of-the-green-lantern-that-we-didnt-see.php

A very, very interesting read.

The most interesting part:

2) The Director’s Cut: There’s another interpretation of the movie that was actually filmed by Martin Campbell but left on the cutting room floor. A reader of ours, puppetdoug, left a comment explaining the original movie, and I did some research to confirm it. It sounds like a much better movie than what the studio gave us. Here’s his comment:

One thing I feel needs mentioning: this is not Martin Campbell’s cut of the film, but the studio’s. I live in New Orleans where it was shot, I read the shooting script, all of which was painstakingly filmed with intense research, and all of that was left on the cutting room floor — a sort of combination of what happened to Daredevil and Watchmen, respectively — character development sacrificed for CG, scenes made irrelevant by removing their setup. The movie in the theater starts with an explanation of mythos that is made redundant by the more natural, scripted questions from Hal when he gets the ring. Ten minutes of childhood Hal, Carol, and Hector that sets up Hal’s first ring construct is reduced to an awkwardly placed flashback in the middle of another scene. The training with the ring is almost completely excised except for one minor scene. Most appallingly, the ending completely deletes the fact that Kilowog, Sinestro, and Toma-Re arrive at the end and help Hal defeat Parallax. Not to mention Parallax was supposed to be a 3rd act reveal after we spend the film worried about Hammond going evil, not the main villain for the entire film. I sincerely hope we get a director’s cut or at least all the deleted scenes on the video release.

It did feel like Parallax’s presence throughout the film felt tacked on and out of order. Puppetdoug’s explanation resolves that. Would it have made for a better performance from Carol? No, but it would’ve been a cleaner more coherent story that placed more of the focus where it should’ve been, on Hector Hammond, instead of making him something of an afterthought.

The bolded part really makes me question the whole thing. Hammond was infected by Parallax, so he couldn't be a 3rd act reveal unless they don't tell us why Hammond was developing the mental powers. Which would've made the movie even worse in my mind. The movie was just a mess and miss fired big time on what it should have been about. More non-CG character building moments? Those ground the movie to a halt as it was, I'd hate to see more of them. The character building that was missing would be CG heavy, Hal and the Corps, especially Sinestro
 
This is stuff the blogger found on the Internet. Blake Lively described the ending scene where their kiss re-ignights the ring at last years ComCon. That being said, I still thinks there will be a director's cut some day.
 
This is stuff the blogger found on the Internet. Blake Lively described the ending scene where their kiss re-ignights the ring at last years ComCon. That being said, I still thinks there will be a director's cut some day.

Are you describing a scene that was in the first draft? I highly doubt there will be a director's cut since its been said that a lot shots cut out were due to FX being incomplete. There's no reason for WB to throw more money in to complete them; if they won't be completed why insert unfinished scenes to make a director's cut.
 
If I'm not mistaken there is some art in the constructing green lantern book that shows sinestro, tomar-re, and kilowog on earth. I'm sure that was taken out for budget reasons. The only scenes I would be interested in seeing are those involving the flash backs with his father and setting up more character moments for Hal, Carol, and Hammond. To me that would make a better film as I really couldn't care less to see more of the corps fighting. Hopefully we get to see what deleted scenes, if any, that they have as I'm sure there going to have to give some incentive for people to buy it.
 
Are you describing a scene that was in the first draft? I highly doubt there will be a director's cut since its been said that a lot shots cut out were due to FX being incomplete. There's no reason for WB to throw more money in to complete them; if they won't be completed why insert unfinished scenes to make a director's cut.

There had to have been footage that was complete since they did cut something out to get the time down to 105 minutes.
 

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