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marvel character who is the strongest : at the human level

I don't think Ironman, Hank Pym, Black Panther or, Wolverine should be on that list. I think their strength is all considered super human.
i said without armor or gadget more like pure strenght like bench squat or shoulder press if you have some number to put like
i know steve can bech 1100 lbs and can do 800 lbs shoulder press but i dont know for the other
 
The thing with captain america though his that his body for instance handles the "waste" made from strenuous activity less. He doesnt get as tired and so he can push himself further. We only stop doing something thats too much because we are in pain. Captain america body doesnt do it normally.
 
ok i will be more accurate i need who's the strongest in human level on

bench press leg press shoulder press

1Steve roger =captain America bp 1100 lbs lp 1500 lbs sp 800lbs

2T'Challa =black panther

3Matt Murdock =daredevil

4Logan =wolverine

5Dwayne taylor =night trasher

6frank castle =punisher

7Shan shi =master of kung fu

8Clint barton =hawkeye

9Tony stark =iron man

10Hank pym =giant man

11 daniel rand=iron fist


i need your knowledge

and the debate is launched
 
Wolverine is low level superhuman in all his physical abilities. Of the others on that list only Cap and Black Panther are anywhere near peak human. Kingpin and Ox are at or near peak human. Colossus in human form is also extremely strong if your want to count him.
 
Cap, Black Panther and Kingpin are all at the 800 pound level or close for the military press. Ox's strength has never been officially stated but is probably about the same. Hawkeye, Iron Fist, and Shang Chi I believe were once referred to as being in the 350 to 375 pound class. Daredevil is probably about the same. Frank Castle, Tony Stark and Henry Pym are probably fit but not really exceptional in terms of pure strength.
 
I don’t want to arg with you but a average human being without hurting himself can only lift 70lbs to 125 lbs in military press properly made without body help and no military machine(because machine overrated the weight by factor 30% to 50%)

A trained man 100 to 200 lbs
Very strong man 201 to 300 +\-
Some example (a there prime)
Arnold 250 lbs
Lou ferrigno 270 lbs
Hulk Hogan 265 lbs
Bruce lee lilft 155 lbs is very strong for a man of is weight is weight he was only 145 lbs
And the wold record 460lbs 1 rep

Ronnie coleman 495 on bench press 315lbs military press 2300lbs leg press for 5,11 320lbs

http://www.flashmavi.com/weight_training_shoulders_seated_barbell_military_press.shtml

by the way martial artist don’t lift very much in weight lifting but they have a lot of power punch Hawkeye iron fist and shang chi or daredevil mmm they don’t lift more than their own weight in even that thats very good

in military press a person with no training can lift 20 to 40% is own weight
with average training or naturally stong40 to 70
intensive training or very strong 70 to 100% is own weight
with abnormal strong 100 to 150% or 1 to 1.5 time is own weight

Example a 200lbs man can lift: no training 40lbs to 80Lbs: average training 80 to 140: intensive training or very strong 140 to 200lbs: abnormal strong 200 to 350+


Hawkeye, Iron Fist, and Shang Chi I believe were once referred to as being in the 350 to 375 pound class. Daredevil and even cap, ox, kingpin they are to much overrated for normal human being.

Drawer and comic writer know nothing about exercise and weight lifting, often they can’t make the difference with bench press or military press.
When they put strength class to a character they don’t know if is on military press or bench press.
They take 30 years to make the decision when the thing ( or any other character) lift 85 ton if is on bench press or military press very often they are mixed up
 
The thing with captain america though his that his body for instance handles the "waste" made from strenuous activity less. He doesnt get as tired and so he can push himself further. We only stop doing something thats too much because we are in pain. Captain america body doesnt do it normally.
right he does not produce fatigue toxins.
neither does wolvie, but he is off the table.
Basically I am looking at this like it was a dead lift comp. I would see cap winning. Just because if he does not then his skill, and advantage mean zip
 
right he does not produce fatigue toxins.
neither does wolvie, but he is off the table.
Basically I am looking at this like it was a dead lift comp. I would see cap winning. Just because if he does not then his skill, and advantage mean zip
just make it an arm wrestling contest lol
 
should black panther be allowed on that, i mean he eats a sacred herb doesn't he...isn't that pretty much the same as augmenting one's body like kraven does. or does it not push him into superhuman category...
 
Cap, Black Panther and Kingpin are all at the 800 pound level or close for the military press. Ox's strength has never been officially stated but is probably about the same. Hawkeye, Iron Fist, and Shang Chi I believe were once referred to as being in the 350 to 375 pound class. Daredevil is probably about the same. Frank Castle, Tony Stark and Henry Pym are probably fit but not really exceptional in terms of pure strength.

King Pin overpowered Spider-man and Daredevil before. He definitly can lift more than 800. He's in the super human range for certain.
 
you can't be in the superhuman range if you're not superhuman.

he's just heading the pack on what a human being can do with raw strength.
 
Spidey's problem with the Kingpin is fighting him effectively without killing him. The Kingpin is an expert martial artist but by Spidey's standards very frail.
 
you can't be in the superhuman range if you're not superhuman.

he's just heading the pack on what a human being can do with raw strength.

A normal Human being cannot over power a guy who throws cars several feet with raw strength. King Pin is super human.
 
A normal Human being cannot over power a guy who throws cars several feet with raw strength. King Pin is super human.
nah Kingpins not superhuman, its just that writers don't know how to use him correctly in Spider-man, anytime he lays a hand on spidey i shake my head in shame:csad:
 
Somebody back in the 60's or 70's did a dead lift of over 6,000 pounds, It may have been Paul Anderson.
 
Speaking of deadlifts...

Since Cap is dead... I'm thinking that takes him out of the running.

Coffins leave so little room for benchpressing.
 

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