Marvel January 2010 Solicits

[kguillou]

Speaking of overpowered characters, now that Thor is back and badder than ever and we have this big event centered around him...do we really need Sentry around? I mean...what's he been doing?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He's got his own niche. Who else will reliably deliver a good session of cowering and crying like a small child whenever the chips are down?

 

[daderade]

Sentry's powers were mis-read. its not "the power of 1000 suns"...its "the power of 100 sons(babys)"

 

[kguillou]

Lol, how can someone have the "power of 1000 suns" anyway? Having the power of one sun alone would be incredibly ridiculous. Not even Goku is that powerful.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Marvel just needs to get rid of the damn Sentry. They just don't know how to use him, he's a horrible character to begin with, and he was created by the same guy who created Sally Floyd, one of the worst characters in comics (she's #1 on my comic book character hate list).

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't see anything fundamentally wrong with the Sentry if they just relegate him to "the crazy powerhouse." He's horribly ineffective in a fight, but that's the fun of him. He's as likely to run away and cry as he is to throw someone into orbit.

My problem is with the fanatics who demand that the Sentry must be God compared to the other Marvel heroes because his original series implied that he could curb-stomp Galactus. Those days are done; get over it already.

 

[kguillou]

I just think that someone with that level of power really has no business being in the marvel universe in the first place since it pretty much renders everybody else obsolete. He'd be a better fit in an anime/manga or something.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, that's why I said he shouldn't have his implied power level from his first series. Like, ever again. As of his return in New Avengers, he's been up there with the Hulk and the gods and heralds. There are plenty of people in that weight class, so it's not like the Sentry would be totally unopposed if he decided to try and kill everyone.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I don't see anything fundamentally wrong with the Sentry if they just relegate him to "the crazy powerhouse." He's horribly ineffective in a fight, but that's the fun of him. He's as likely to run away and cry as he is to throw someone into orbit.

My problem is with the fanatics who demand that the Sentry must be God compared to the other Marvel heroes because his original series implied that he could curb-stomp Galactus. Those days are done; get over it already.

It just gets incredibly old after the millionth time. Why is he in the Avengers when their most powerful member is also the most useless? The man needs to be committed with Robbie Baldwin, Norman Osborn, Wade Wilson, and Frank Castle.

 

[daderade]

and Hulk wasnt even at his STRONGEST until after they fought.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It just gets incredibly old after the millionth time. Why is he in the Avengers when their most powerful member is also the most useless? The man needs to be committed with Robbie Baldwin, Norman Osborn, Wade Wilson, and Frank Castle.

As a member of any normal Avengers team, I agree. But he's on the Dark Avengers now, who are basically the poster-children for crazy. He fits in well there.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Well, that's why I said he shouldn't have his implied power level from his first series. Like, ever again. As of his return in New Avengers, he's been up there with the Hulk and the gods and heralds. There are plenty of people in that weight class, so it's not like the Sentry would be totally unopposed if he decided to try and kill everyone.

Well that's why they make him a agoraphobic, otherwise his power would be considered ridiculous. The fact that he rarely has the ability to even use this power is what makes him interesting.

The way I see it, Iron Man put him on the team because, more than anything, he didn't know how the hell to deal with him, and figured the best way to keep tabs on him and make sure he doesnt completely insane is to put him on the team and pretend like he's normal. And now, Osborn has him on the team because he sees himself in the Sentry. Because if the Sentry can't control himself, what chance does the Green Goblin have.

I particularly liked that issue of Dark Avengers where Osborn had that conversation with Sentry to tell him he's in control. Osborn, more than anyone, has treated him like a normal person.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I think the problem with the Sentry is that he worked really well in his original mini by Jenkins. It's easily within my top 3 comic book sories of all time.

However, it's a one trick pony. Continue his story and it just doesn't really work.

Making it worse is putting someone of his power level on an earth based team facing earth level threats.... and the way Bendis writes him. Both are damaging.

People's been saying it for years, but he only way his ongoing adventures could really work is to put him up in space. Make him a Cosmic Character.

 

[Dread]

Probably Doom.

I'm still basking in the glory of early Thor/Hulk fights right now, when they usually ended in a stalemate rather than Hulk completely dominating Thor because Hulk got more popular over the years while Thor got less popular. Hell, Thor didn't even use his hammer in Journey into Mystery #112 and he stalemated the Hulk.

That was a long, long, long time ago, dude.

Hell, if I wanted to do that, I could go back to the mere early 1990's when Colossus actually used to have "magic resistance" against some black magic, such as during INFERNO. I bet not even one editor recalls that now.

Nowadays it seems every tanker has to seem "vulnerable for drama" except the Hulk, and somehow it's not supposed to make Hulk boring.

..for the record, Thor came back and WOMPED Rulk. And Thor is usually trying to control the fights with Hulk so that nobody (including either one of them) gets hurt....most of the time.

Apparently no one remembers that.

Audiences don't care about damage to a scene in a mega-fight anymore. If Superman punched Imperiax through 25 buildings and flattened Metropolis into a smoldering crater, no one in the audience would go, "Oh god, Superman killed thousands of people". They'd go, "Holy ****, Superman is THE MAN, this is my favorite comic moment EVAR!" and Wizard would write 50 articles about it. I mean, the series finale of JLU essentially did that (Superman punches Darkseid through about 5 buildings, smashes him into the ground, there were civilians in the background and the audience only cares HOW AWESOME IT IS). It's about damn time Thor laid the smack down on Hulk now and then. Or on anyone for that matter; JMS has gotten me used to Thor having focus in maybe 1 out of 3 of his own issues.

Speaking of overpowered characters, now that Thor is back and badder than ever and we have this big event centered around him...do we really need Sentry around? I mean...what's he been doing?

I think the Sentry has worked better in Dark Reign than anywhere else. He doesn't work as a straight up hero, as he's a walking pile of faults and psychosis. He doesn't work as a replacement to Thor, and he's still built on retcons and lies in general. But as the Heel Bodyguard to a Heel Villain/Boss, he's very effective.

That said, I did like his little meeting with Moon Knight in VENGEANCE OF THE MOON KNIGHT #2.

(Speaking of which, was VENGEANCE OF THE MOON KNIGHT solicited in Jan. 2010? If not, then damn, debut orders must've been low!)

 

[hippie_hunter]

I've really only liked the Sentry's interactions with Norman Osborn. Any other time he's just there to put in a "Oh ****, it's the Sentry!" reaction, but I just don't care enough about him to think that.

Also if they incorporate Marvelman into the 616 Marvel Universe, I just don't see any point in the Sentry continuing to be used

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

I think the problem with the Sentry is that he worked really well in his original mini by Jenkins. It's easily within my top 3 comic book sories of all time.

However, it's a one trick pony. Continue his story and it just doesn't really work.

Making it worse is putting someone of his power level on an earth based team facing earth level threats.... and the way Bendis writes him. Both are damaging.

People's been saying it for years, but he only way his ongoing adventures could really work is to put him up in space. Make him a Cosmic Character.

Yeah, Jenkins original story was great, probably my second favorite by him (after Inhumans). I liked that it was kind of in continuity but also kind of not. I wouldn't have minded if he didn't appear again, although I think the mini was pretty underrated. But it seemed to me that Joe Quesada really wanted to have him on the Avengers, and Bendis did the best he could with him. And he doesn't make the rest of earth's superheroes obsolete, if that were the case, then why hasn't this been seen? Bendis gave him the crutch of crippling agoraphobia for a reason. You can't complain that he's too powerful and then complain that he doesn't do anything at the same time.

Come to think of it, Sentry's situation kind of reminds me Bendis' Powers story "The Sellouts," in which a Superman type character goes bat**** crazy based on his assessment of humanity, and kills the Pope, destroys the middle east, etc.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Whatever happened to Jenkins anyway, he used to be one of my favorites, with his Inhumans, Sentry and Peter Parker: Spider-Man. He's really dropped the ball these days

Well, i did read his Mythos which were decent for the most part. Still nothing as memorable as his earlier work

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

It's the Destroyer. There are two characters who can stomp Thor that I will never complain about: the Destroyer and Mangog. One's literally indestructible, the other possesses the strength of "a billion, billion beings." Those are the names that you pull out whenever someone complains about how Thor is boring because he's too powerful and no one can beat him.

Wasn't there some kind of mention about Doom building new Doombots. Does he build... DESTROYER DOOMBOTS?

 

[Union Jack]

i like the sentry..maybe cos superman is my fave hero and he is close to that character powerwise at least.

i do wish they could sort him out he is a cool character who is underwritten..he could be great...he kinda reminds me of wonderman..one of my fave avengers ever and totally underdone and underused.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Wasn't there some kind of mention about Doom building new Doombots. Does he build... DESTROYER DOOMBOTS?

That would be f***ing crazy. And awesome. It would be crazy awesome.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I am officially scared.

 

[Shockdingo]

Destroyers...as...Doombots....dear merciful lord that'd be insane-o-epic! I'm hoping with the focus of this Thor/Asgard-centric event, plus the upcoming movie, Thor gets more respect and doesn't stay the punching bag he's been for too long. The member who mentioned the Wolverine vs hulk and Thor vs Hulk double standard really made me think; how the crap does Wolverine fare so well against the Hulk? I mean look, it would be different if they wrote him cunning and attacking from afar, but these days he completely disregards ANY experiences (previous fights with a particular class of foe, or even remembering to use martial arts skills) and often just runs into battle, claws out, brain off. Thor's a bloody tactician man. Life times of battle experiences should make him and Hulk have fantastic fights, not one sided Asgard-pummel fests. I don't mind if one loses from time to time, but CRAP IN A HAT (fedora?Yes) writers....give Thor SOME credit.

Senseless rant fin/

 

[Silver Knight]

Looks like Son of Hulk is over..

 

[hippie_hunter]

I won't cry, I've found Jenkins' run to be absolutely boring and confusing.

 

[JewishHobbit]

It really is boring. I'm buying it for the Cosmic level of it, and to see Galactus... but the sudden poor transition of the Shadow kid from... well, kid... to Messiah who thinks he's Jesus Christ's wicked step brother has just killed my interest in the book. I keep hoping it gets better but it's just not.

Like was stated above, I don't know what happened to Jenkins's writing. His Sentry and Inhumans run was amazing. His Spider-Man was decent. Frontline started great and ended as the 2nd worst Civil War tie-in. And it's just been mediocre to bad ever since.