Marvel Prepping Four Series and a Miniseries

[kaijunexus]

Does anyone else think that it's going to go...

2015 - Daredevil (Netflix)
2016 or 2017 - Dr. Strange (movie)
2016 - Jessica Jones (Netflix)
2017 - Luke Cage (Netflix)
2017 - Iron Fist (Netflix)
2018 - The Defenders, featuring Dr. Strange (Netflix)

 

[Dark Raven]

Did anyone even watch the Defenders series with Jim Belushi?

I remember it because Belushi is an awful actor, living in his late brother's shadow.

They did. There was a whole thread here on the Hype with people discussing it.

And it was an Emmy-winning 60s TV series before that. And I forgot to mention that there was even another version of it on Showtime in the 1990s with Beau Bridges before the Jim Belushi version. So as far as TV is concerned, the name "The Defenders" is mostly associated with that legal series.

It may be obscure to some audiences of today, but even the 60s British series "The Avengers" could've been seen as obscure, yet Marvel saw fit to change their title to distinguish their movie from that in the UK. And the same is probably likely with Agents of SHIELD and The Shield.

 

[Sawyer]

Does anyone else think that it's going to go...

2015 - Daredevil (Netflix)
2016 or 2017 - Dr. Strange (movie)
2016 - Jessica Jones (Netflix)
2017 - Luke Cage (Netflix)
2017 - Iron Fist (Netflix)
2018 - The Defenders, featuring Dr. Strange (Netflix)

I don't think they'll be spaced that far apart.

 

[silenceKILLS]

I have a funny feeling that Jessica Jones will be a main character in Luke Cage and that Luke Cage will be on Netflix before Jessica Jones airs because I think they are planning on doing the Purple Man storyline that leads to 'aka Jessica Jones' or whatever they are calling it. I do hope Melissa Rosenberg is still writing the show.

 

[Dr. Evil]

They did. There was a whole thread here on the Hype with people discussing it.

And it was an Emmy-winning 60s TV series before that. And I forgot to mention that there was even another version of it on Showtime in the 1990s with Beau Bridges before the Jim Belushi version. So as far as TV is concerned, the name "The Defenders" is mostly associated with that legal series.

It may be obscure to some audiences of today, but even the 60s British series "The Avengers" could've been seen as obscure, yet Marvel saw fit to change their title to distinguish their movie from that in the UK. And the same is probably likely with Agents of SHIELD and The Shield.

Defenders of the Street? Defenders of Justice?

 

[samsnee]

I just hope they go a little darker with some of this stuff. Doesn't need to be depressing but I would love if Daredevil felt serial like Breaking Bad but I know it will never happen.

 

[Dark Raven]

Defenders of the Street? Defenders of Justice?

Both of those sound terrible and as long-winded as "Agents of SHIELD."

I just hope they go a little darker with some of this stuff. Doesn't need to be depressing but I would love if Daredevil felt serial like Breaking Bad but I know it will never happen.

Series they need to look at for the tone of Daredevil are shows like Law & Order (either the original or Criminal Intent) and Murder One (Season 1). It could be serialised like Breaking Bad, but the rest of the BB format doesn't really quite fit. There was something else I thought of before, a few weeks ago, that was analogous to DD, but I've forgotten now.

Maybe The Equalizer as well?

 

[metaphysician]

I really don't think they are gonna be too gritty with these shows. Darker than say Iron Man 3, but it's not like it's gonna feature the tone Punisher: War Zone had.

So, not campy and absurd? t:

 

[Lord]

I'm fine with the title "Agents of SHIELD", don't see any problem, only with the actual content of the show

 

[metaphysician]

Much better because there will be no network limitations. The shows on Netflix except for Arrested Development have sex, language and some violence.

Because, of course, sex, swearing, and blood are the three key ingredients for making quality TV.

 

[metaphysician]

Anyway, I think you can just drop any thought to the Defenders miniseries involving Dr Strange or the Hulk. Its going to be, effectively, a Marvel Knights show. Besides, would you really even *want* to see the Hulk or Dr Strange that could be done on a TV budget, even prestige format TV budget?

 

[Lord]

Because, of course, sex, swearing, and blood are the three key ingredients for making quality TV.

Unless you're a Rambo movie fanboys will try to say those make a show/ movie better

 

[Dr. Evil]

Because, of course, sex, swearing, and blood are the three key ingredients for making quality TV.

Not necessarily, but it shows that the shows on Netflix are not bounded by Network restrictions.

 

[kedrell]

Because, of course, sex, swearing, and blood are the three key ingredients for making quality TV.

They don't guarantee a good result but what helps guarantee a less than ideal product is declaring such things off the table before they even make the show. That's just putting creative handcuffs on the team that's supposed to make it. It's restricting. Not that I expect we'll see any nudity or sex or much hard language since this is Marvel and they have a family friendly reputation to hold onto. But we should easily get more violence than you'd see on a network show and more adult themes. Basically I expect these shows to be less like the Shield TV show on ABC and more like the films with regards to what they'll allow as far as content goes. The films have some swearing in them, sexual suggestiveness and much more violence than that TV show does. These series might even go a little more hardcore than the MCU films but I doubt we'd get the equivalent of R-rated stuff.

 

[T"Challa]

They don't guarantee a good result but what helps guarantee a less than ideal product is declaring such things off the table before they even make the show. That's just putting creative handcuffs on the team that's supposed to make it. It's restricting. Not that I expect we'll see any nudity or sex or much hard language since this is Marvel and they have a family friendly reputation to hold onto. But we should easily get more violence than you'd see on a network show and more adult themes. Basically I expect these shows to be less like the Shield TV show on ABC and more like the films with regards to what they'll allow as far as content goes. The films have some swearing in them, sexual suggestiveness and much more violence than that TV show does. These series might even go a little more hardcore than the MCU films but I doubt we'd get the equivalent of R-rated stuff.

Yeah..i keep saying Homeland/The Wire/The Shield should be the template in terms of tone.

 

[Shifty]

Does anyone else think that it's going to go...

2015 - Daredevil (Netflix)
2016 or 2017 - Dr. Strange (movie)
2016 - Jessica Jones (Netflix)
2017 - Luke Cage (Netflix)
2017 - Iron Fist (Netflix)
2018 - The Defenders, featuring Dr. Strange (Netflix)

I think all four will air throughout 2015. By that point Netflix will have more and need more original programming as they roll out in new markets. Having a Marvel series released every 3 months or so lets people sign up for Netflix and they start seeing a return on their investment. I don't see them launching when Marvel has a movie coming out that month or when SHIELD premieres but having it sprinkled throughout the year with their other original programming makes sense. Netflix lets their shows do their own thing, very little notes.
If they are well received they can do second seasons in 2016.

Pull up the money truck to Vince Gilligan's house for Daredevil!

 

[kedrell]

Yeah..i keep saying Homeland/The Wire/The Shield should be the template in terms of tone.

Even though I don't give the time of day to those shows I do know that The Wire was on HBO and probably pretty well into rated-R equivalent territory. So I doubt these shows are going near that far. I've got no clue about those other two.

 

[Aztec]

I doubt Dr. Strange will be involved in the goings on of Hell's Kitchen. I imagine he will play an important role in The Infinity Gauntlet film (which is what I believe A3 will be).

I do love the idea of street level heroes getting their due. Perhaps a Midnight Sons series could follow?

 

[Kiltman]

I'm interested in what they do post Defenders-series. They could easily combine Iron Fist and Luke Cage into Heroes for Hire, or Luke Cage and Jessica Jones into one series after what I'm guessing is their origin season. Would open up a slot for The Punisher of Moon Knight, and they'd fit right in.

But I wonder if they maybe would do some of the horror/supernatural characters too. Those types of shows do well on Netflix. I'd think a Blade show could be a nice gateway into that in conjunction with the Doctor Strange film that will release around the same time or already be out.

 

[kedrell]

The nice thing about all this TV wars stuff is that it's simplified. It's just Marvel/Disney and DC/Time Warner. Fox and Sony are shut out since they don't own any of the TV rights to their movie characters, at least as far as I know.

 

[Vartha]

here's that Marvel/Netflix you tube just came out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7NSKVfHCos&feature=share

 

[DrCosmic]

So, who or what do you guys think is going to be the big threat to unite the "Defenders"? Kingpin? The Hand?

I suspect Kingpin will be the main threat running through. The Hand will be big for Daredevil, but Kingpin has the power to touch all of them as they try and defend Hell's Kitchen or something like that.

A question to everyone: what does this decision tell us about future Marvel Studios movies? it seems that even though Marvel Studios is taking risks with some obscure properties (Guardians, Ant-Man) there are some character that they consider too obscure for feature films (in this case Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and, surprisingly, Daredevil). If this is the case, if they draw the feature film/TV series line here then which characters will get the feature film treatment in the future? Right now I'd say Nova, Captain Marvel, Doctor Strange, Black Panther and the Inhumans. Everyone else, however, will go to TV. So marvel is gonna run out of new movie properties after Phase 4.

I'd say it tells that if Marvel can tell a great story and adapt the characters' abilities on a TV budget it will, e.g. Daredevil. If it cannot, it'll be on the movie slate e.g. Guardians of the Galaxy. It would be a mistake to think that popularity to comics fans is the only or even main decision maker as far as what films they will make when.

YAYA DACOSTA for Misty Knight!!!

Yes! Make this happen. NAO!!

 

[Kiltman]

The nice thing about all this TV wars stuff is that it's simplified. It's just Marvel/Disney and DC/Time Warner. Fox and Sony are shut out since they don't own any of the TV rights to their movie characters, at least as far as I know.

I'm pretty sure how its worded is just live action, so they actually could make shows with their characters if they wanted. Sony would have to find a channel or have it be an online/Playstation show if they made a Spider-Man. But Fox could make a show of Mutants or Fantastic Four characters and put it on their network. And Universal (Comcast) could do the same with Namor.

At the same time Marvel can not use them in anything live action.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Netflix already signed a deal with Disney last year giving them exclusive streaming rights to Disney films (Including Marvel, Star Wars, etc). I wonder if this tv deal was a part of that or a separate agreement. And I wonder if Disney isn't angling to buy Netflix outright in the future?

 

[The Sage]

Daredevil on Netflix...be still my heart.