Marvel Prepping Four Series and a Miniseries

[jmc]

Considering I am a DC fan, more of one than Marvel, I wouldn't be attempting to stir NOTHIN. More like you are just over reacting to a simple comment, that's stirring the pot. It is embarrassing that DC can get barely anything off the ground beyond Batman/Superman when Marvel is making strides getting all these characters barely anyone knows about to the general public. And it probably is embarrassing to WB, not like they are going to admit it.

Lovely assumption you're making their my friend. What's embarrassing are people attempts to criticize WB for not having the same business model as Marvel. They are not built around superheroes and never will be - that is fact and that will never change no matter how many people want it be the case. I'm sure WB are real embarrssed they are getting income from a dozen other properties and sources that aren't superheroes.

 

[Mister J]

Can the two of you just drop it?

 

[Dr. Evil]

Casting for Luke Cage interests me the most, because that will eliminate the actor playing Luke Cage from playing Black Panther, Man Ape, Killmonger and Brother Voodoo.

My top choice is Chadwick Boseman.

 

[Dark Raven]

I wish that Marvel would make a deal with Sony to use the Kingpin in their DD series. They can't have a whole series without him ever featuring. Will they even be able to mention his name as this mysterious presence behind all this criminal activity?

 

[Dasher10]

Is it just me or is Jessica Jones more of a Luke Cage supporting character? I'm not complaining, I'm just surprised that she's getting a show over Black Widow, Punisher, Black Panther or Ghost Rider with regards to street level heroes.

I'm a bit worried about Iron Fist only being a TV series since part of me wanted to see him off in the Himalayas discovering Kun'Lun but I guess they can just use the Rocky Mountains and save on costs. I'm just a bit concerned that Iron Fist won't get the budget it needs to be done well.

 

[DrCosmic]

Sony can't possibly have Kingpin. Fox had him for the Affleck movie, and now Marvel has DD.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I wish that Marvel would make a deal with Sony to use the Kingpin in their DD series. They can't have a whole series without him ever featuring. Will they even be able to mention his name as this mysterious presence behind all this criminal activity?

I thought that Kingpin is now back with Marvel? It wasn't like Webb was ever going to use him for Spidey anways.

 

[T"Challa]

Sony can't possibly have Kingpin. Fox had him for the Affleck movie, and now Marvel has DD.

yeah, and even then i'm pretty sure Marvel owns the Tv rights to those characters anyway.

 

[Dark Raven]

Is it just me or is Jessica Jones more of a Luke Cage supporting character? I'm not complaining, I'm just surprised that she's getting a show over Black Widow, Punisher, Black Panther or Ghost Rider with regards to street level heroes.

I'm a bit worried about Iron Fist only being a TV series since part of me wanted to see him off in the Himalayas discovering Kun'Lun but I guess they can just use the Rocky Mountains and save on costs. I'm just a bit concerned that Iron Fist won't get the budget it needs to be done well.

I feel she is more of a supporting character too. I don't know about a Black Panther tv series as Marvel will want to keep that for the big screen (hopefully) but they could've had someone else. Weren't they once talking about a Mockingbird TV show? Of course, she could show up in AoS.

But they could've had a Ghost Rider show, or something on the more supernatural side to set it apart from the other three shows. But maybe they don't want to set it apart if they're planning a big crossover mini series. Still, they could've done the Punisher instead or someone else completely different like Spider-Woman. She would've worked on the small screen and wouldn't confuse cinema audiences with Spider-Man. It could've been similar in tone to Angel with a supernatural feel but also investigating various cases. Maybe some elements of Alias (the TV show) as well.

But then she would probably end up losing the costume, which I wouldn't want. Jessica Jones however wouldn't even have a costume.

But then what does that say about any costumes for DD, Cage and Fist?

 

[Primal Slayer]

I would love it if Boris Kodjoe got to be Luke Cage.

 

[SuperT]

Sony can't possibly have Kingpin. Fox had him for the Affleck movie, and now Marvel has DD.

Sony LOANED the Kingpin character to Fox to use him in Daredevil - they didn't give him away outright so yes, Sony probably still owns the movie rights to the Kingpin character.

Marvel owns all the tv rights to their characters.

 

[DrCosmic]

Is it just me or is Jessica Jones more of a Luke Cage supporting character? I'm not complaining, I'm just surprised that she's getting a show over Black Widow, Punisher, Black Panther or Ghost Rider with regards to street level heroes.

I'm a bit worried about Iron Fist only being a TV series since part of me wanted to see him off in the Himalayas discovering Kun'Lun but I guess they can just use the Rocky Mountains and save on costs. I'm just a bit concerned that Iron Fist won't get the budget it needs to be done well.

Shooting in the moutains can be difficult, but it wouldn't be the first time a TV show has done so. Shooting on location in Nepal would be, imho, a waste of time. Depending on how they want to spend the budget, they may want to shoot in China, and just make Iron Fist a martial arts epic set mostly in and around K'un L'un, with Chinese cities doubling for American ones. Now that's a crazy reversal. The martial arts talent on the film would be bonkers though.

As for Jessica Jones, she works award-winningly well as the lead character for Alias and Pulse. Don't confuse her not being a superhero with her not being a heroic lead. And if IF would be rough on a TV budget, Black Panther, Ghost Rider and Black Widow (movie star attached) would be absolutely disastrous. Punisher might be an okay TV series, but as we saw, Punisher as a solo hero is quite generic. He's interesting as a guest star, or in a universe where you have tons of supervillains you never want to see again for him to kill off quickly.

Also, the way in which Daredevil, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones and Lucas Cage tie together is simply beautiful. You almost can't do their stories justice without including all of them.

 

[T"Challa]

Is it just me or is Jessica Jones more of a Luke Cage supporting character? I'm not complaining, I'm just surprised that she's getting a show over Black Widow, Punisher, Black Panther or Ghost Rider with regards to street level heroes.
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Scarlett Johanssen isn't going to star on a TV show anytime soon. Ghost Rider and Punisher have had multiple recent incarnations and they both failed. It makes sense that Marvel will want to sit on those characters for a little bit. (but i'm sure punisher will guest star at a certain point.).

Black panther makes no sense for TV. The technological and exotic nature of Wakanda pretty much requires a movie budget. BP is probably going to kick off Phase 4 if the MCU gets that far.

 

[Dark Raven]

Sony can't possibly have Kingpin. Fox had him for the Affleck movie, and now Marvel has DD.

Sony lent Kingpin out to Fox for that movie, but I believe they have the rights to the character. So just because Marvel have DD doesn't mean they have Kingpin.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Black Panther is better as a movie because of Wakanda possibly showing off two sides: the tribal villages and the massive urban areas and cities.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Is it just me or is Jessica Jones more of a Luke Cage supporting character? I'm not complaining, I'm just surprised that she's getting a show over Black Widow, Punisher, Black Panther or Ghost Rider with regards to street level heroes.

I'm a bit worried about Iron Fist only being a TV series since part of me wanted to see him off in the Himalayas discovering Kun'Lun but I guess they can just use the Rocky Mountains and save on costs. I'm just a bit concerned that Iron Fist won't get the budget it needs to be done well.

Black Widow would require SJJ and I don't think she is interested in doing a series. And I think marvel wants to save Black Panther for the big screen. As far as Ghost Rider, I think they don't want to spend that money on the cgi aspect of him and they probably figure that the character has had his time in the lime light.

 

[T"Challa]

I would love it if Boris Kodjoe got to be Luke Cage.

He has the look but the guys acting skills just aren't there. Its unfortunate because the guy has movie star looks and physique but there's just no charisma there.

 

[SpideyFan866]

Sony lent Kingpin out to Fox for that movie, but I believe they have the rights to the character. So just because Marvel have DD doesn't mean they have Kingpin.

Actually, the Kingpin rights were fully shared between Fox and Sony, in the same way Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are shared between Fox and Marvel.

Now that the rights for Daredevil have reverted to Marvel, the Kingpin rights are now shared by Marvel and Sony.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Yeah, he should change his name to Boring Kodjoe.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Black Widow would require SJJ and I don't think she is interested in doing a series. And I think marvel wants to save Black Panther for the big screen. As far as Ghost Rider, I think they don't want to spend that money on the cgi aspect of him and they probably figure that the character has had his time in the lime light.

Widow might appear, though. With Fury appearing in AoS, I'd say anything's possible.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Actually, the Kingpin rights were fully shared between Fox and Sony, in the same way Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are shared between Fox and Marvel.

Now that the rights for Daredevil have reverted to Marvel, the Kingpin rights are now shared by Marvel and Sony.

Yeah, and Marvel has a better relationship with Sony than they do Fox. Sony probably won't use Kingpin in a Spider-Man movie if Marvel plans to use him in Daredevil.

 

[Primal Slayer]

That is because SLJ wanted to appear, don't know if Scarlett would be up for it.

 

[Compi716]

Here are my five thoughts/speculation points:

1. The Punisher will definitely be making an appearance, probably in DAREDEVIL.
2. DAREDEVIL will be based on the Frank Miller stuff.
3. If Luke Cage and Iron First do well, expect a HEROES FOR HIRE show/movie.
4. At least one of these characters (not Daredevil) will have his or her first appearance on AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. I bet it's Jessica Jones.
5. Michael C. Hall for Daredevil!

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I doubt they'd even be doing DDif they couldn't use Fisk. He could influence some of the other shows as well.

 

[Dark Raven]

Yeah, and Marvel has a better relationship with Sony than they do Fox. Sony probably won't use Kingpin in a Spider-Man movie if Marvel plans to use him in Daredevil.

Well I hope Kingpin does appear, because not only would it be great to see him behind all of the crime, but I can imagine (if it were to get to this stage in the story) it would be fascinating to see a whole trial of Wilson Fisk in the courtroom. But would he ever get caught? I don't think he should be that easy to catch for the duration of the series until maybe the last season. Then perhaps they could have a trial.

And Marvel better get some good legal writers on DD. I don't want this Mickey Mouse (pun intended) version of procedurals that we get on Agents of SHIELD. It needs to be as good as any crime or legal drama out there.

In the Fox Daredevil movie, Matt Murdock started delivering part of his closing argument or something silly during the cross examination of a witness. That shouldn't be happening. He can't start editorialising and addressing the jury at that stage when someone is on the stand.