Echo Marvel Studios' Echo General Discussion Thread

[Mike Murdock]

Marvel's Echo Gets a First Trailer - IGN

Where's this trailer?

 

[TheVileOne]

Where's this trailer?

It looks like they are referring to the trailer shown at D23. I saw it as well. The article doesn't really spell it out very well.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

Ben Blacker: This [the podcast] comes out in a week or two. When does Echo premiere?

Marion Dayre: That will be probably a year from when this comes out.

Ben Blacker: Oh, are you kidding?! I thought it was like within months…Geez, I’m sorry.

'Echo' Showrunner Confirms Disney+ Series' Delay - Murphy's Multiverse

 

[SirStrangefolk]

Tie-in comic TPB has been pushed to October 31st and KC Walsh is also saying the show will start in November.

 

[Iceman]

Looking forward to seeing who else is appearing in this. The show needs an awareness boost.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

Wonder why it drops all at once. No faith in viewer retention otherwise? Wouldn't be able to release weekly without competing too much with other shows?

 

[Kev4000]

Man, Echo must be very, very, very bad..

 

[Venom 1988]

While it could be a bad sign, it's also possible it's a slow burn and that it's better viewed all at once instead of weekly. That's not nescearily a bad thing, some weekly shows are better binged watched. Regardless, its probably due to potentially loosing viewership. I will admit this does seem a bit troubling.

EDIT- Also Muppets Mayhem dropped all its episodes when it was released last week and was prettying entertaining. It's possible Disney is testing the bing method with certain shows.

 

[Still Wynning]

They’re probably just experimenting with the release format for different shows.

 

[Spider-Fan]

While it could be a bad sign, it's also possible it's a slow burn and that it's better viewed all at once instead of weekly. That's not nescearily a bad thing, some weekly shows are better binged watched. Regardless, its probably due to potentially loosing viewership. I will admit this does seem a bit troubling.

EDIT- Also Muppets Mayhem dropped all its episodes when it was released last week and was prettying entertaining. It's possible Disney is testing the bing method with certain shows.

I aint gonna lie, while this could be an experiment and Yada Yada Yada, I don't think they would be doing this if they felt they had a Wandavision quality show on their hands or something. This feels like doing something different cause they don't have faith the show will carry buzz for 6 weeks. I am excited for Daredevil and Kingpin and all, but this does make me nervous. I get they did this for Muppets, but Muppets are not Star Wars or Marvel.

 

[Slick]

Hoping for the best.

 

[Venom 1988]

I aint gonna lie, while this could be an experiment and Yada Yada Yada, I don't think they would be doing this if they felt they had a Wandavision quality show on their hands or something. This feels like doing something different cause they don't have faith the show will carry buzz for 6 weeks. I am excited for Daredevil and Kingpin and all, but this does make me nervous. I get they did this for Muppets, but Muppets are not Star Wars or Marvel.

Oh I agree. If they felt they had a sure fire hit, they wouldn't be doing this. Doesn't matter the quality, if it looses ratings week to week, that's still not a good look. I'm just saying this may work in it's favor. If it ends up being bad, then it's not being dragged out for 6 weeks. It will just be forgotten after a week and they'll move on.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do something like this for What If season 2 as well. I liked the 1st season more than most but I feel being a weekly show hurt it more in the end. They should have dropped it all like once like they've been doing with Star Wars Visions.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Oh I agree. If they felt they had a sure fire hit, they wouldn't be doing this. Doesn't matter the quality, if it looses ratings week to week, that's still not a good look. I'm just saying this may work in it's favor. If it ends up being bad, then it's not being dragged out for 6 weeks. It will just be forgotten after a week and they'll move on.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do something like this for What If season 2 as well. I liked the 1st season more than most but I feel being a weekly show hurt it more in the end. They should have dropped it all like once like they've been doing with Star Wars Visions.

I also think What If could benefit from dropping multiple episodes. Especially given its animated and largely shorter runtime. I didn't hate What If, but it was very hit and miss for me, and since it aired I only ever revisited the 2 part finale.

 

[psylockolussus]

Kevin Feige Reportedly Thought Echo Was 'Unreleasable' Before Reshoots

Well:unsure: This what happens when you're working on too many projects. I didn't really read any reports like this during phase 1 to 3. Its really started when these shows started popping out and quality control just isn't on par with phase 1 to 3.

Eternals. Quantumania. And soon Echo. And I'm just mentioning the ones that got bad reviews and this upcoming show.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

Marvel Stuntman Claims Marvel Studios Was "Going to Batgirl" an Upcoming Disney+ Show - Murphy's Multiverse

 

[Kev4000]

This whole show was a bad idea from the start, maybe they can transfer this mess into a Special Presentation so they can cut all the mess away and reduce the fat.
Im not interested to learn about supporting characters from a supporting character from a tv filler show.

Just concentrate about the Echo/Daredevil/Kingpin stuff and its fine for 1 hour.

 

[Dark Raven]

How many people were actually interested in this show? It seemed a boring concept with a boring actress. Maybe instead of a special they could just release a 2 minute trailer that tells the whole story in that time.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Echo as a story was meh.

Echo as a vehicle for more Fisk and Daredevil was intriguing enough that I'd consider checking it out. I say through Iron Fist after all.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

I thought that Echo had a lot of potential. I think Echo as a character even in the comics has been underused and they've not gotten everything out of her that could be done with her. Though I do think this show (and her comic counterpart) could benefit from giving her a more interesting superpower than just being a less menacing Taskmaster. I think the reconnecting with her Native American roots story could be interesting character work and there also aren't many shows that actually have a deaf protagonist in general so that could make for a pretty unique show and it would be interesting to see how they handle that. Of course everything still depends on the actual execution. Having the potential to be good and interesting does not automatically make the end product so.

 

[psylockolussus]

Disney+ needed plenty of new content and this was the result of it.

Its too bad, in hindsight it seems Disney is now regretting most of the Mcu shows from being produced. Its not really much of an improvement from the Marvel Television live-action shows era.

 

[old city outlaw]

They probably should of just folded Echo into the upcoming Daredevil season 4 instead of giving her own show. The character was originally introduced as supporting character in the Daredevil comics.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Disney+ needed plenty of new content and this was the result of it.

Its too bad, in hindsight it seems Disney is now regretting most of the Mcu shows from being produced. Its not really much of an improvement from the Marvel Television live-action shows era.

Honestly, I think the Netflix shows were better. The ABC/Freedorm/Hulu stuff not as good as the D+ stuff, but I think the Netflix shows were largely better

 

[Mike Murdock]

FWIW, I liked Cloak and Dagger (particularly season one, but season two as well), Runaways (season one), Agent Carter (season one), and Agents of SHIELD (everything but season six). I also generally like the Disney+ shows. I think they create higher expectations, though, which doesn't help. Cloak and Dagger is very good for a Freeform show. Secret Invasion had a lot of wasted potential. The higher budget alone sets expectations for what the show can pull off while Cloak and Dagger did a guy in a Hell Record Store fairly effectively and it was ok to recognize they don't have a movie budget.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

Huh. Thinking out loud here, but I'd have dropped Agatha in January of 2024 instead of Echo, if just because it would sync up nicely with WandaVision releasing in January 2021. Even though I get the Halloween-themed reasoning behind a fall release.