Marvel Universe 1000

[Dope Nose]

It'd be canon that the surfer w/o any power adjustments on either guy will beat Captain America EVERYTIME.

Yet because they have never fought,..... it can't be canon by your definition.

it would certainly be considered canon that the Surfer is more powerful than Captain America because their individual power levels have been clearly defined within the context of the Marvel U and while it would seem obvious that the Surfer would beat Cap in a fight you can't say that it's canon that he has.

So,... While I now understand where you two are coming from,... Mine is still valid because Most of mine would come under the "canon" definition of character development - You know Captain America is a Patriot,... his robbing the Statue of Liberty is out of character and against the canon of his behavior.

it's certainly unlikely that Cap would rob the Statue of Liberty and you could say that it's canon that he has never committed such a robbery but going back to my original point none of what you've posted would be considered canon, regardless of whether you feel it would fit with the character's behavior.

The Avengers DON'T have three teams. Ben Reilly DIDN'T survive. Matt Murdock DIDN'T regain his sight. you can't say that something is canon and follow it by speculating on what you think the character would or wouldn't do. you can't say that it's canon that Ben Grimm would marry Sharon Ventura because that isn't what happened. Ben Grimm DIDN'T marry Sharon. Following the definition you listed, none of what you posted could be considered to have inarguable existence within the fictional universe because none of it happened.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I still dont get it.

There is nothing to get, I don't think, this is just someone's fanfiction in thread form.

 

[Dope Nose]

pretty much.

 

[Varient]

The Avengers DON'T have three teams. Ben Reilly DIDN'T survive. Matt Murdock DIDN'T regain his site. you can't say that something is canon and follow it by speculating on what you think the character would or wouldn't do. you can't say that it's canon that Ben Grimm would marry Sharon Ventura because that isn't what happened. Ben Grimm DIDN'T marry Sharon. Following the definition you listed, none of what you posted could be considered to have inarguable existence within the fictional universe because none of it happened.

No Heat and
Apples and Oranges,....
I remember a case/Story where Daredevil regained his sight for a day,...

I remember The Avengers Were once West Coast, East Coast, Force Works, and *Ahem* The GLA all at the same time.

I remember that Ben Reilly survived the first beating that Spidey left him for dead on,.. and Still hold that what killed him shouldn't have,.. It's like saying you could Knock Thor out with a two by four,....

What? A Mystic Oaken Board of ButtWhoopicus?

It's Apples and Oranges because Canon by thought, Deed, or Behavior, doesn't seem as important anymore.

No,... Grimm Didn't Marry Ventura, and I can't convince you that based on almost forty years of reading the Fantastic Four,.. He should Have.


Peace.

 

[Varient]

For the "I don't get crowd":

Exiles is a Comic of heroes saving alternate worlds and timelines where almost every major turning point in the 616 marvel Universe created a spin off universe/world/reality where things almost happened the same way based on the known characters placed in those situations.

I took a moment to consider what I expected from what I knew of the Marvel Universe and labeled that Alternate based on the premise that people did act true to type in the 616 universe BASED ON WHAT HAD COME BEFORE.

The Avengers and Xmen have had Multiple teams,
The Inhumans have the tech to move a world,
Namor and Doom have sworn off World domination on more than one occasion,
All three alien races have had "outposts" on Earth and have Embassy's on numerous worlds,... In fact didn't they have such on Earth during "HOM?"

Eh,... I'm beating my head against a wall here.

 

[Dope Nose]

I remember The Avengers Were once West Coast, East Coast, Force Works, and *Ahem* The GLA all at the same time.

no they weren't. the West Coast team had been disbanded before the formation of Force Works.

I remember that Ben Reilly survived the first beating that Spidey left him for dead on,.. and Still hold that what killed him shouldn't have,..

it doesn't matter whether he survived the first battle. we were witness to him dissolving in Peter's arms. he's dead. THAT'S canon.

It's Apples and Oranges because Canon by thought, Deed, or Behavior, doesn't seem as important anymore.

No,... Grimm Didn't Marry Ventura, and I can't convince you that based on almost forty years of reading the Fantastic Four,.. He should Have.

you still don't get it. it's NOT apples and oranges because it doesn't matter what you feel the character SHOULD HAVE done or what SHOULD HAVE happened. you don't decide what is or isn't canon. Marvel does.

 

[Varient]

I think the disconnect is the concept that because Marvel hasn't had it happen,.. that it is not understandable that a character will respond, react the way they have been written for years.

Peace.

 

[Varient]

no they weren't. the West Coast team had been disbanded before the formation of Force Works.



it doesn't matter whether he survived the first battle. we were witness to him dissolving in Peter's arms. he's dead. THAT'S canon.



you still don't get it. it's NOT apples and oranges because it doesn't matter what you feel the character SHOULD HAVE done or what SHOULD HAVE happened. you don't decide what is or isn't canon. Marvel does.

It would be nice to get Marvel to weigh in on this,... There are a lot of Holes in the Marvel U that they have let the fans fill in as we are typing now.

Back in the time of Stan Lee it was more common,.. but now you just can't tell.