Marvel Zombies!

those are pretty much the same reason I rolled my eyes. Is Marvel just throwing "scary" books out there because Holloween is next month?????
Marvel has saddened me. I feel like Dorothy who just had the curtain pulled back to reveal there is no Wizard. Zombies???? Is there a big audience for zombie comics?????
Couldnt they have just put out a quality Blade comic and have him fight zombies????? Couldnt this have just been a one issue What If????
There are too many Marvel charaters who arent getting book time that this team could be working on.....
 
I thought Reed ending up in Zombie-Marvel Universe was a nice twist instead of him ending up in 616 like everyone assumed, and I think it was a good story, but I probably won't pick this up.

If I the first issue does something monumentally great and I see that in the shop...then I'll consider it.
 
Dread said:
I heard about this and I groaned. I groaned for several reasons:

1). It proves that Marvel does not realize, even after a bankruptcy, that it is not 1994 anymore. A book will not sell simply because it is a spin-off of a "hot"
title anymore. If that were true, then JUBILEE, ROGUE, and GAMBIT would not have been cancelled. SPIDER-GIRL would not be alive solely because of fans making it a sacred cow and needing something to mine for digests. And Marvel would not have so little faith in ongoing titles that almost nothing these days that wasn't already an ongoing title is being slated as something other than a "mini series". If they hope people will buy this book solely because of Ultimate Fantastic Four, then Marvel really needs to learn a new trick

Then why are the HoM tie ins selling so well, huh smart guy? Every time Marvel does anything, people jump down there throats and call them money grubbing ****es who cant sell comics and dont care about fans. Clearly they can sell comics, being the #1 comic company on earth, but if I had fans lke you, I wouldnt give a **** either. Theres no pleasing you whiny bastards.
 
Dread said:
4). If this series is meant to amp up Kirkman, why? He's a good writer but I like books to have a purpose for existing, or to at least pretend to.

:confused: Besides entertaining the reader, what's the purpose of any comic?
 
Doctor Goblipus said:
Then why are the HoM tie ins selling so well, huh smart guy? Every time Marvel does anything, people jump down there throats and call them money grubbing ****es who cant sell comics and dont care about fans. Clearly they can sell comics, being the #1 comic company on earth, but if I had fans lke you, I wouldnt give a **** either. Theres no pleasing you whiny bastards.


1) At the comic shop I go to there are loads of House of M books on the shelf. They arent selling out at my comic store.
2)Maybe you like seeing Spiderman, Wolverine all over the place but there are some people who like other characters. Should this book be made before a Shield book, Thor, Heroes for Hire, Silver Surfer, a good New Warriors, a good Dr. Strange....
3) The comicbook industry isnt like what it used to be...why print a book with no fans over a book with a built in fanbase
 
Just because you know a few people who like those characters, that doesnt mean those characters have a built in fan base.
 
Doctor Goblipus said:
Just because you know a few people who like those characters, that doesnt mean those characters have a built in fan base.


1)Thor doesnt have a built in fanbase?????
2) There are a lot of old school avengers fans who dislike Nu Avengers capitalize on that by forming another Avengers team...make it old school.
3)Heroes for Hire????? You put Powerman and Ironfist together and I guarantee it'll sell.
4) Blade has had several popular movies...you are telling me no one would buy a Blade comic
5) Just because you dont like the characters doesnt mean no one else does
 
I don't understand how this is money-grubbling or whatever. I thought it was just a cool idea. :confused:
 
DarkKnightJRK said:
I don't understand how this is money-grubbling or whatever. I thought it was just a cool idea. :confused:


I dont see this as money grubbing...I see it as a stupid move :down
 
Doctor Goblipus said:
Then why are the HoM tie ins selling so well, huh smart guy? Every time Marvel does anything, people jump down there throats and call them money grubbing ****es who cant sell comics and dont care about fans. Clearly they can sell comics, being the #1 comic company on earth, but if I had fans lke you, I wouldnt give a **** either. Theres no pleasing you whiny bastards.
The sales of HOM are not in yet, especially since ANY crossover usually increases sales in the short run because there is more urgency, plus that simply means stores will order more copies because they anticipate sales.

Sales figures of comics are calculated oddly. Most companies ship comics to order through a middleman, in Marvel's case, Diamond. What happens is so many stores order so many copies across the globe, and then Marvel prints out that X amount of copies. They commonly also print out some extras in case some get damaged, and depending on the company/series, maybe some more extra. When a book "sells out", that simply means that every copy of it that had been ordered by shops previously was already ordered. The only way sales count would be if they told you how many "extras" they printed, and that's often omitted. When a book "sells out", that only means shops ordered a lot of them. How fast they move them is variable.

Easy example? ALL-STAR BATMAN & ROBIN #1 was supposedly the #1 seller. Yet every shop I go to has at least 2 dozen or more still gathering dust on the shelves. Same for LEGEND #1 or umpteen copies of AGE OF APOCALYPSE.

Mega-Events are done because, yes, they do sell well. But confusing HOM, a company spanning event, with a spin-off from 3 issues of Ultimate Fan Four is another.

Roach feels it's a Halloween thing, and I tend to agree; they sometimes do things like that. Like having a lot of monster books shipping out that likely won't move.

Marvel's hoping that Zombies, Kirkman, and an Ultimate spin-off can make a hit. Don't take me wrong; I LOVED the "Crossover" arc from UFF. I just didn't like it enough to snatch up a spin-off, or feel it will sell strongly. What does it bring to the Marvel Universe line. If Marvel thought about what all of their books are meant to accomplish in the line, they might have fewer titles, yes. But those fewer titles would allow for tighter continuity and stronger sales. It's easier to sell 10 of something than 100. Instead of, maybe, 5-7 X-Books, just concentrate on making 3-4 the best they can be becuse they have a set purpose. This sort of thinking happened when Joe Q was "fresh" and Marvel had to restore confidence after bankruptcy in the early 00's, but seems to be gone now in favor of reverting to 1994-esque logic. Of couse, they're #1, but keep in mind that failing Malibu comics in 1997 sold better than many comics in the Top 100 in 2005. Both companies need to find a way to come back to that peak versus going, "well, this is what we got, let's milk the hardcores who buy anything" over and over.
 
Fantastic, two of my favorite things, horror and heroes. Ill be gettin it, but i will be havin trouble as to where to put it, with my Marvel collection or my Horror collection...??:confused:
 
roach said:
4) Blade has had several popular movies...you are telling me no one would buy a Blade comic

I'm fairly certain there was a recent Tomb of Dracula mini that featured Blade pretty heavily...don't think it sold that well.
 
This will rule. I enjoyed the Crossover arc in UFF so I should like this as well.
 
Dread said:
which is only the weakest selling Ultimate title right now

Personally, I think it's the strongest. But then, I've always been a big FF fan...and I've always hated the Ultimate books.
 
It's not really a Halloween thing, it's coming out in December.

I think it'll be really cool. Kirkman's a good writer, and this is just an interesting idea. Sounds cool to me. I'll give it a buy. Great cover.
 
hey, just because UF4 is the lowest selling Ultimate book doesnt mean it deserves to be
Its great! But this marvel zombies looks interesting, I wonder what the plot will be like...
 
its a strange idea for a comic but looks interesting.

though surley guys like hulk and wolverine shouldnt be affected....or gods like thor?
 
I want to read it just because I thought it was over too quickly in UF4. I wanted more explanation about the virus and it's effects and causes. I was hoping to find out more about how the virus works on heros so quickly, so I am looking forward to it.
 
roach said:
1)Thor doesnt have a built in fanbase?????
2) There are a lot of old school avengers fans who dislike Nu Avengers capitalize on that by forming another Avengers team...make it old school.
3)Heroes for Hire????? You put Powerman and Ironfist together and I guarantee it'll sell.
4) Blade has had several popular movies...you are telling me no one would buy a Blade comic
5) Just because you dont like the characters doesnt mean no one else does

1) Yes,.. but no one I actually know likes him
2) I wouldn't care about the old school team
3) I've never cared a lick about Heros for Hire,.. and Luke's already in New Avengers, Pulse, and many Spidey comics lately,.... maybe you should work for marvel ;)
4) I wouldn't buy a Blade comic
5) True


Just thought I'd randomly respond :)
 

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