Marvel's strange romances

[Hordakfan]

Tigra and Hank (A humanoid furred tiger literal cat-woman and a human man), Howard the Duck and Beverly Switzler, Lilandra and Xavier (mutant and alien), Hezibah and Corsair, Carly and Beast on X-Men TAS (blue furry mutant man who is like a cat-ape hybrid look and a woman who human)and Starlord and Gamora are all they are proof in Marvel you don't have to be the same species of Being to fall in love and show love is love.

I am very supportive of interspecies or rather inter-being couples/romance in stories even comics/games/animation/sci-fi etc. but only if it involves a humanoid being, a sapient or sentient being, magical creature being, alien being or mutant being which is ok because they can consent but never to a 4 legged regular feral non-evolved non-humanoid non-sapient creature like an ordinary feral Labordour retreiver and a human for example as that would be beastality since it's a thing that cannot think or consent or have feelings like a Being would and it isn't a Being who has same structures/body parts like a human is.

Nothing wrong with interspecies or rather inter-being romance as it worked for Eliza and Goliath, Nick and Judy (Zootopia and both are mammals), Sally and Sonic (Squirrel and Hedgehog mammal beings), Star Wars humans and aliens even aliens romancing different species/races of alien beings, Star Trek humans and aliens even other races of aliens with different races/species of aliens, Tankgirl and Booga in Tankgirl comics, Hellboy and Liz in the movies/comics, Eric and Ariel in Little Mermaid, Madison and Tom Hanks in Splash, Charlene and Vinnie on Biker Mice from Mars (human and alien sapient mouse humanoid being and both are sapient mammal beings), Minerva Mink and a human lover in a fanfiction story series, Vastra and Jenny on Doctor Who, Kit Mambo and Rene on Animalympics, Duckman who romanced with different mammal anthro beings/different bird people/even human ladies on the show (remember that classic 90's adult animated comedy show which pre-dated South Park and Family Guy? great writing and great humor too with satire with Jason Alexander), Batman and Cheetah on Justice League, Beauty and The Beast 80's show with Vincent and Catherine, Polly Pineblossom and that rich guy who was once a jerk on New Adventures of Mighty Mouse etc.

I believe in comics especially furry ones/fanfiction/sci-fi fantasy stories even Star Wars/animation/games/Sci-fi fantasy films etc. that a person should have that right to love whoever they want to love as the artist or writer thinks so for consenting adults and i am a long time open minded person.

As Prince Lir in Peter S Beagle's The Last Unicorn (Book and movie) once said when he found out the loveliest girl he ever laid eyes on and romanced known as Lady Amalthea is a humanized unicorn "Unicorn, mermaid, sorceress, vampire, gargoyle..no name you'd give her would surprise or frighten me, i love whom i love" which is one of my all time favorite quotes.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Later on in the comics, Beast--a humanoid mutant who'd mutated himself into a furry blue ape-man, then further mutated into a furry blue cat-man--got together with Abigail Brand--a lady who looked like a normal human with hair dyed green, but turned out to be a half-alien hybrid. Comics!

 

[Hordakfan]

Oh yes that too.

You agree with everything i said even what that Lir from Last Unicorn quote said? and you know what it means?

 

[Spider-Jay420]

Love and romance is the Last thing I'm looking for when I'm reading super hero comics, but any love is a good thing!

Peace and Love! Peace and Love!!

 

[Hordakfan]

Indeed and you don't mind any of the odd romances i mentioned above and only to different beings even humanoid beings and alien beings but never to an ordinary feral 4 legged creature? afterall a person doesn't always have to apply to humans but humanoid beings and alien beings and all Beings.

And what Lir was saying in The Last Unicorn when he found out his true love is a humanized unicorn that it's 100 percent true, you cannot always your feelings for if you love that person you love them despite their appearance like say Batman was not startled by Cheetah's appearance and he liked her as they kissed.

 

[KevanG]

I've always had a theory about Super people romances. Just stuff I've thought about while writing my books.

The idea is that for the case being two Supers, when people get thrown together in weird circumstances they tend to make a connection. If it's a one time or fairly brief romance, see Hawkeye and Spider-Woman or Wolverine and a bunch of different women, then they'll hook up until it wears off then go their separate ways just like other people who get thrown into weird situations and have a connection like that.

As for the Non-human/not quite human hookups, the same idea applies. The people know each other after an event and if they establish a relationship with each other then that's normal behavior. They're both sentient beings and consenting so there shouldn't be a problem.

As for the ones where they have one partner look 'normal' and the other not, the idea of bestiality gets thrown around a lot. In one of the X-Men books after Beast got his cat form, his long time girlfriend broke up with him due to there being rumors of her being into bestiality due to his body having mutated so much beyond what was considered the 'norm' even by MU standards.

The big difference between bestiality and the 'Non-humans' is sentience. Without sentience then you're just ****ing a dog or whatever. With sentience you are in la relationship with a person that responds in kind.

Considering just how many aliens, gods, demons and so on that interbred with humanity over the millennia I doubt those humans in the MU are at all strictly human anymore. So the Purifiers can go **** themselves. The latest events with the Inhumans showed just how bizarre the human genome has gotten with literally hundreds of thousands (I think. The Inhumans bore me so I don't pay much attention to them.) of people who have changed due to the Terrigen Mists affecting the Inhuman DNA in them.

So yeah, the definition of human in the MU is far looser than the definition of love.

 

[Hordakfan]

I've always had a theory about Super people romances. Just stuff I've thought about while writing my books.

The idea is that for the case being two Supers, when people get thrown together in weird circumstances they tend to make a connection. If it's a one time or fairly brief romance, see Hawkeye and Spider-Woman or Wolverine and a bunch of different women, then they'll hook up until it wears off then go their separate ways just like other people who get thrown into weird situations and have a connection like that.

As for the Non-human/not quite human hookups, the same idea applies. The people know each other after an event and if they establish a relationship with each other then that's normal behavior. They're both sentient beings and consenting so there shouldn't be a problem.

As for the ones where they have one partner look 'normal' and the other not, the idea of bestiality gets thrown around a lot. In one of the X-Men books after Beast got his cat form, his long time girlfriend broke up with him due to there being rumors of her being into bestiality due to his body having mutated so much beyond what was considered the 'norm' even by MU standards.

The big difference between bestiality and the 'Non-humans' is sentience. Without sentience then you're just ****ing a dog or whatever. With sentience you are in la relationship with a person that responds in kind.

Considering just how many aliens, gods, demons and so on that interbred with humanity over the millennia I doubt those humans in the MU are at all strictly human anymore. So the Purifiers can go **** themselves. The latest events with the Inhumans showed just how bizarre the human genome has gotten with literally hundreds of thousands (I think. The Inhumans bore me so I don't pay much attention to them.) of people who have changed due to the Terrigen Mists affecting the Inhuman DNA in them.

So yeah, the definition of human in the MU is far looser than the definition of love.

Yup and all those examples i mentioned show great examples even in a fanfiction story saga where Minerva Mink is having an affair with a human man and both love each other for who they are and not what they are even Vincent/Catherine on Beauty and the Beast, Hellboy and Liz, Denise and Frank on Regular Show or Charlene and Vinnie on Biker Mice from Mars or any Star Wars/Trek human and alien for example. Yet no one gives a flying damn about Vastra and Jenny's relationship on Doctor Who as they accept it since she is an alien lizard woman married to a human woman as they love each other for who they are and not what they are even if they are different but they believe beauty is from within yet not what is on the skin and like i mentioned on the differences between beastality on education and what isn't and nothing wrong with two sapient mammal beings in love like Vinnie and Charlene for example just like Sonic and Sally whom are mammals too.

If i were a writer for Marvel i'd have Beast marry his true love and him doing education to some people in the comics on what is beastality and what isn't as he would show 2 pictures like one of a S&M suit man holding an ordinary regular dog implying that the guy in the pic is gonna do that beagle as a true example of what beastaliy is then another one from an artwork he did of a cat-man and a human woman showing it's not for some education even him mentioning Doctor Who. Hell i'd even have Beverly Switzler marry Howard even Corsair marrying Hepzibah just like Tigra married Hank Prym then had a child. Plus him saying the line from The Last Unicorn i mentioned with the "As Prince Lir once said in one of my most favorite books which was made into a quite good animated film called The Last Unicorn when he found out that the loveliest gal he ever romanced is really a humanized unicorn...Unicorn mermaid werewolf sorceress gorgon vampire gargoyle elf...no name you could give her surprises or frightens me i love whom i love which is one of the best quotes ever" which would reach readers more even to those familiar to the book or movie.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh yes that too.

You agree with everything i said even what that Lir from Last Unicorn quote said? and you know what it means?

Never read or watched The Last Unicorn, but I agree that finding love is rare and should always be appreciated, whatever form it takes.

 

[Havok83]

Generation Hope's Kenji and Martha. She was literally just a brain. He even built her a body

 

[Hordakfan]

Oh yes that too and Alicia/Thing with a normal human woman and a rock man.

 

[Yowza]

I would say a lot of this is meant to be just innocent as comics are meant for kids and not supposed to think much else beyond them just being best buds between action scenes or something. However, I gotta say the creators perhaps at times may be a bit bored and take things too far.

Alan Moore is one writer I can think without boundaries in this area. He just sort of freeflows in some of his 80's comics and it's just whatever. One of the things I least like about his comics for sure; I have to view it as just artistic expression not meaning much else but still I don't know about some of the stuff (don't even want to think about it).

Marvel stories I read growing up at least somewhat contained so can't really think of any besides The Thing and his girlfriend but never really interpreted that as a direct romance moreso someone to speak to and an emotional counterpoint to what it feels like to be a rock monster and no one to really be with but at least to talk to,ect. kind of thing.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Comics haven't been universally for kids in ages, though. And even when they were, romance was always a part of them. Remember, the Lee/Kirby/Ditko/et al. stories that basically created the foundation of the entire Marvel universe were built as much on soap operatic love triangles and unrequited desires and such as they were on big muscular dudes punching each other.

 

[Hordakfan]

What Lir said in his brilliant quote in the movie/book of The Last Unicorn is it's meaning is because of the utter devotion that it implies, he love Amalthea, the essence of her, and no matter what she is or was it wouldn't or couldn't sway him from that affection. And it's also 100 percent true, you cannot alter your feelings if you love that person you love them despite their appearance. Yet for the Unicorn part of his quote it only applies to either humanized ones or ones who are humanoid Beings not to ordinary regular unicorns. It's a meaning that applies to Beast and Carly, Star Wars/trek human beings and alien beings even other races/species of alien beings romancing other races/species of alien beings, Kit Mambo and Rene on Animalympics (a lioness person and a goat person), Lilandra/Xavier, Howard/Beverly, Rigby/Eileen and Frank/Denise on Regular Show, Catherine/Vincent in Beauty and the Beast with Ron Perlman/Linda Hamilton, Vastra/Jenny, Vinnie/Charlene on Biker Mice from Mars, Minerva Mink and a human lover in a story series (both are sapient mammal beings and consenting adults) and other different Beings in science fiction and fantasy stories especially Eric and Ariel and Alan and Madison in Splash etc.

Yet i always felt sorry for Lir, i mean instead of turning Amalthea back into a regular unicorn, she should had transformed into a humanoid unicorn Being as he can't have her as a regular 4 legged feral unicorn that is a no-no as it's beastality but not as a humanoid Being then it's ok then Lir would still love her and Amalthea would still love her complete with new human-like feelings then he would return back to her forest with her as he would give up his royal lifestyle and leave it to his REAL father to be king, that's how it should have ended like reverse Beauty and the Beast.

Mantis married a tree person.

 

[Shikaeshi]

She-Hulk and Juggernaut. Although she denies it. (But we all know it happened.)

 

[Hordakfan]

She-Hulk and Juggernaut. Although she denies it. (But we all know it happened.)

Yup that too.