Ant-Man Michael Douglas is Hank Pym

[Endeavor]

I think it worked for me last night when I tried it

 

[Savage]

The ironic thing about the "purists" complaining about how "they're rapin' muh childhood!" is that, if anything, Wright is being as literally faithful to the source material as possible. His Hank Pym Ant-Man is *exactly* what he was in the comics --- a superhero fighting Commies in the 1960s, who falls down an anthill. His Scott Lang Ant-Man is *exactly* what he was in the comics --- a thief who stole the Ant-Man suit to steal enough money to pay for his daughter's life-saving operation, and who then gets mentored by Pym to become a full-fledged superhero.

Like Zack Snyder, Wright has proven that he's so faithful to source material in graphic novel adaptations that he uses the exact dialogue and the exact scenes from the comics, in Scott Pilgrim. I fully expect that he'll do the same in Ant-Man, and lift scenes and dialogue straight from the pages of "The Man In the Ant-Hill" and "To Steal An Ant-Man."

No, haters, Wright isn't destroying the source material here ---- he's going to be slavishly loyal to it.

Excellent post. Also, I love that you're in your 40s and listen to Queens of The Stone Age. That's awesome. I love those guys.

 

[Tymminator]

I'm not saying the tribute sentiment behind what you said is wrong, but I think you got the Avengers thing backwards.
I think he wasn't in Avengers because of this film. Because Wright had already turned in his script and Feige was willing to wait for him to do it. It's probably the same reason why Joss wasn't able to use Wasp either.

It is, he went on record saying he wanted to use at least Wasp and that he loves her character. She was even in some storyboards that you can find that are still floating around the Net.

Seriously, people should calm down and wait for the execution. Plus seriously, this is a COMIC book movie, anything can happen. In several movies in the future, something wacky could happen to de-age Pym for any type of comic-book reason. At any rate, let's wait before we pull out the pitchforks.

 

[Broseph44]

No one wants to see elderly Hank Pym as a consultant and throwing away Hank in future phase action is just terrible. They also can't go to far in to flashbacks because they have continuity issues to worry about.

I'm trying not to let my hatred for what Marvel has done here spill in to other phase three or even phase two films but it's hard. This is simply a dumb move and it more than likely makes the overall product inferior.

They showed other studios why it's best not to screw around to a major degree with what has worked in the books for years. Then, they turn around and are doing it themselves.

You're really trying too hard.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Like Zack Snyder

Oh f***! there goes my excitement for the film, thank you very much

 

[BobJM]

Oh f***! there goes my excitement for the film, thank you very much

exactly my thought lol.

but nevertheless, I am excited for this movie. Just not Snyder comparisons. At least Ant-Man will be fun.

 

[cherokeesam]

exactly my thought lol.

but nevertheless, I am excited for this movie. Just not Snyder comparisons. At least Ant-Man will be fun.

Obviously, I was talking about the similarity of being meticulously faithful to the actual written/drawn page; not Snyder's style. Wright's style is definitely different.

But for the record, I'm not ashamed to say I'm a fan of Snyder, too.

 

[Human Torch]

The ironic thing about the "purists" complaining about how "they're rapin' muh childhood!" is that, if anything, Wright is being as literally faithful to the source material as possible. His Hank Pym Ant-Man is *exactly* what he was in the comics --- a superhero fighting Commies in the 1960s, who falls down an anthill. His Scott Lang Ant-Man is *exactly* what he was in the comics --- a thief who stole the Ant-Man suit to steal enough money to pay for his daughter's life-saving operation, and who then gets mentored by Pym to become a full-fledged superhero.

Like Zack Snyder, Wright has proven that he's so faithful to source material in graphic novel adaptations that he uses the exact dialogue and the exact scenes from the comics, in Scott Pilgrim. I fully expect that he'll do the same in Ant-Man, and lift scenes and dialogue straight from the pages of "The Man In the Ant-Hill" and "To Steal An Ant-Man."

No, haters, Wright isn't destroying the source material here ---- he's going to be slavishly loyal to it.

If that were really the case,Cap,Tony,Bruce & Thor would all be his contemporary in the 60's.There's nothing "slavishly loyal" about it,

The dye is cast,but lets call it what it is.They gave Wright carte blanche with Ant Man(for whatever reason,presumably because they had so little faith in the concept.Strange to say the least,since they have a talking raccoon waiting in the wings ) and in the process took a massive dump on Pym's character.

Anyone hoping to see Pym in the Avengers or deal with Ultron or his storied relationship with Wasp- sorry,you're outta luck.But we're supposed to except he's not an "important" enough character to get upset over, I suppose.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

took a massive dump on Pym's character.

Some y'all need to let me borrow a time machine so I can see the movie too.

 

[Human Torch]

Some y'all need to let me borrow a time machine so I can see the movie too.

We don't have to have seen the movie to know all the above,do we?(No Avengers,Ultron,Wasp,etc)

 

[Airwings]

They gave Wright carte blanche with Ant Man(for whatever reason,presumably because they had so little faith in the concept.Strange to say the least,since they have a talking raccoon waiting in the wings ) and in the process took a massive dump on Pym's character.

Anyone hoping to see Pym in the Avengers or deal with Ultron or his storied relationship with Wasp- sorry,you're outta luck.But we're supposed to except he's not an "important" enough character to get upset over, I suppose.

Maybe Marvel will re-think this if Ant-Man is successful and give him a "free pass" into a future Avengers. But only if the film earns enough money for that.
It could very well happen. Legendary Michael Douglas is cast as Pym.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I enjoyed Michael ****ing Douglas (that's what I call him) in Behind the Candelabra. The guy's still got it and this is an intriguing surprise for a Marvel movie.

 

[Walt Bickle]

This is a terrible idea. thats a goodbye to Giant man and Wasp in the Marvel film universe. Whedon won't be happy

 

[Suzanne78]

Again… they've just started casting this movie. We. Don't. Know. Anything. About Janet. Whether she's going to be in it or not. Whedon wanted to use her, that we do know, and it probably was because of this movie that he took her out of the Avengers.

But then again. WE. KNOW. NEXT TO NOTHING. About Jan.

I'll give you the whole Ultron affair. But we also don't know anything else about Hank's role in the MCU beyond THIS movie. Period. And, as I've stated before, it's really dismissive of Jan's character that she's basically reduced to being an appendage of Hank.

Man, maybe this movie will be good to get awareness out that Jan Van Dyne can exist on her own without being Hank's love interest (if she's in it, that is&#8230

Needless to say, I completely disagree with the "hiring acclaimed actor" = "massive dump on Hank's character."

Whedon won't be happy

I'm sure Whedon, as one of the creative overseers/consultants on all Phase Two projects, knows exactly what Wright's doing and has read the script.

 

[Ant-manic]

This is a terrible idea.

no it isn't.

 

[Son of Coul]

I wonder who's gonna break the news to him that Janet can't possibly exist without a young Hank Pym. Because, y'know, he always felt that strong female characters can't work on film without having a significant other.

 

[SterlingArcher]

I haven't posted in quite some time but I've been waiting for this movie since it was announced to have Edgar wright as it's director and thought it would be one of the first movies marvel studio made along with iron man. While I am excited about the casting of Michael Douglas I am disappointed we won't get a Hank Pym in his prime and fighting along with the other founding members of the avengers I still expect a great film but I am disappointed

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Thanks for the tip on how to "Ignore". It's like a breath of fresh air in here.

sam, Im with you on most of what you're saying, but Zach Snyder Watchmen was NOT a good movie. He proved that its possible to be faithful to a source material and still completely miss the point. Plus the terrible casting, uneven acting and godawful soundtrack didnt help. Anyway, Id use a different example as many many people who see eye to eye on this didnt care much for either Watchmen or MoS (i enjoyed the latter but thats about it).

Personally, I think Marvel has already done right by us cb fans and Im hoping for more artistic license taken on lesser know properties like Ant-Man, not less. Go nuts Edgar!

And as Suzanne already said, OF COURSE Whedon is on board with what Wright is doing. Duh.

 

[SterlingArcher]

I'm not a crazy fanatic that's goin to boycott tho lol Marvel hasn't really given me a reason to not have faith in what they'll bring so while I'm taken aback a bit by the news I believe they'll bring us a terrific ant-man film that us fans should be happy of. I mean who in the right man would ever believe that we actually would be getting an ant man movie

 

[Walt Bickle]

you can never mention a problem about a female character without the sexist accusation.
Truth is Wasp is apart of the package for cryin out loud ofcourse she can't be on her own?? they're married for cryin out loud.

sure we will make a movie with donatello, we don't need the rest of the turtles.

AND no one wants a 60 something year old wasp. these female characters must also have sex appeal whether ye want to admit it or not.

And Giant man is as monumental as antman, he was in the 2nd issue of avengers if i'm not mistaken?

 

[Endeavor]

I mean who in the right man would ever believe that we actually would be getting an ant man movie

This guy.
It's a hell of a lot more believable than getting a movie about a talking Raccoon and Walking Tree in the context of Superhero movies and Space Operas. So yeah, this movie being announced was never a shocker for me.

 

[Ant-manic]

I'm not saying the tribute sentiment behind what you said is wrong, but I think you got the Avengers thing backwards.
I think he wasn't in Avengers because of this film. Because Wright had already turned in his script and Feige was willing to wait for him to do it. It's probably the same reason why Joss wasn't able to use Wasp either.

i know about Jan. but i've never heard Whedon mention Pym being in the movie. i don't think that he was interested in using him.

 

[Ant-manic]

you can never mention a problem about a female character without the sexist accusation.
Truth is Wasp is apart of the package for cryin out loud ofcourse she can't be on her own?? they're married for cryin out loud.

did you fall out of a time machine. they are not married. they weren't married when she first became the Wasp. of course she can be on her own.

 

[Son of Coul]

you can never mention a problem about a female character without the sexist accusation.
truth is wasp is apart of the package for cryin out loud ofcourse she can't be on her own?? They're married for cryin out loud.

Sure we will make a movie with donatello, we don't need the rest of the turtles.

and no one wants a 60 something year old wasp. These female characters must also have sex appeal whether ye want to admit it or not.

and giant man is as monumental as antman, he was in the 2nd issue of avengers if i'm not mistaken?

right

 

[Walt Bickle]

did you fall out of a time machine. they are not married. they weren't married when she first became the Wasp. of course she can be on her own.

but they were partners