MICHAEL KEATON RETURNS (or at least in discussion) AS BATMAN

He's playing Bruce Wayne. Something tells me though Keaton won't be the only big surprise return in Flashpoint.

IMO Flashpoint is sort of a sequel to Crisis on Infinite Earths.

Saw a rumor going around that Ryan Reynolds might play Hal Jordan. Grain of salt of course but if they're going this route it actually makes sense. And I wouldn't doubt if Ryan would want a chance to right the wrongs of his GL movie like he did with Wolverine Origins.

Michael Keaton's possible appearance gives me my first glimmer of interest in this Flash movie. Still hate Ezra's interpretation of the character though.
 
He's playing Bruce Wayne. Something tells me though Keaton won't be the only big surprise return in Flashpoint.

IMO Flashpoint is sort of a sequel to Crisis on Infinite Earths.
That's an interesting idea/way of looking at it.
 
In my dream world, Bale, Reynolds, Cavill, Gadot, Gustin (with a new movie quality suit) and Momoa would get stuck in the same timeline in Flashpoint and be the cast of a new Justice League movie.
 
That would be a pretty damned good lineup!

If they really go hard on this Alternate timelines, bringing previous actors back thing, it's not nearly as unrealistic as it once was. The two biggest hangups would be getting Bale to agree to come back, which unfortunately I don't think is likely (though he has hinted that he wouldn't be 100% against it, though not in a serious manner per se) and WB picking Gustin over Ezra for a new JL movie. I highly doubt Gustin would turn down being Flash on the big screen and I honestly think Reynolds would consider redeeming himself as GL. Cavill is basically rumored to already be back. Not as impossible as it seems. Though it's obviously more likely that Pattinson would just replace Affleck, return the rest of the cast from JL and use Flashpoint as the reason for the Batman trade.
 
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He's playing Bruce Wayne. Something tells me though Keaton won't be the only big surprise return in Flashpoint.

IMO Flashpoint is sort of a sequel to Crisis on Infinite Earths.
I still dream of that. Other than Burtonverse, we could get:

I'm hoping that we in one way or another, will see the 66's Batmobile, AND Robin suit. Don't need to be in action, there are loads of other ways we could see those. Museum exhibition, statue of Robin, newspaper article, framed photograph on a wall, old TV clip etc etc.
Maybe we could also get a 10-15 older Grayson than in the series. Not Burt Ward playing him but someone much younger ofcourse. And they don't need to slap it in our face that it's him, only hinting about it.
A short glimpse of a 30/35 year old male at the 66s Bruce Wayne Manor, staring out the window at the Bat signal, delievering a typical Robin line, but he sounds tired and not playful. It should be evident he's way more battle worn and weary at this time. Not so youthful and naive anymore. And perhaps being well-dressed because he's taken over Wayne Industries. OH, what a great idea!!!
Kevin Zegers for that scene. Or perhaps Logan Lerman.
But I could also be onboard with JGL, meaning he's the Dick Grayson of two separate universes. But unfortunately, most people would think he's from Nolanverse and not an older Grayson from 66-verse. So with him, we wouldn't get the impact of having a slightly older 66's Dick Grayson onscreen even if it is him. So in order to acchieve that impact, we need someone who we can believe is the 66s Grayson. I vote for Zegers because he had that classic Burt Ward look about 20 years ago.
WAIT, what if we could see THAT Robin in a upgraded 66s suit (this time the suit MUST be upgraded), and THAT Robin teams up with Keaton's Batman during one night, because of a multiverse villain.
Sorry, I just fainted a little.

Other cameos:
*Dean Cain
*Helen Slater
*Lynda Carter
*Justin Hartley
*Chris O'Donnell (the Schumacher-verse included for a couple of seconds, just because the man sadly passed away recently. And to be honest, that universe it's so close to Burtonverse it's almost the same. In fact it is, but that world divided in two different directions after BR. One with Keaton, and the other one is the one we saw with Kilmer/Clooney. )
*Blake Lively (or even better, Angela Basset because she has more gravitas as an actor/actress)
*Cillian Murphy (or similar, would perhaps be even more cool with Liam Neeson appearing as an evil hallucination)

It's REALLY BAD that they used John Wesley Shipp in his original Flash suit in Arrowverse.
This upcoming Flashpoint event movie is the one where this should have been done.
 
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In my dream world, Bale, Reynolds, Cavill, Gadot, Gustin (with a new movie quality suit) and Momoa would get stuck in the same timeline in Flashpoint and be the cast of a new Justice League movie.
Sounds great to me. I’d want Ray Fisher in there as well (plus Martian Manhunter eventually).
 
What if Flashpoint will be Batman-centered, as someone suggested. Instead of the CW's Superman-centered Crisis.

I have one basic question regarding the Keaton appearance. How could even Flash blend in with the Burtonverse world and its gothic feel. Will Flash seem out of place there? World's fatest man visiting Burtonverse, will be a fish out of water on many levels. He will be a GOD there, more so than in other universes where there's other people with powers.

Then we come to Burtonverse suit. With the sculpted design, long pointy ears and yellow logo.... I know it works well within his universe, but would it even function if he enters another universe? How can he fight in universes where criminals are more ruthless and don't wait for him to fight one at a time.

Back to the Batman-centered idea. I can't drop the idea of having 66-verse included. It would be more fun to see than Batfleck, or Pattinson as well.
DCU is already included because that's where Flash is from. DCU is the base here.
Nolanverse has other characters to include. Murphy or Neeson might transfer most easily to the Burtonverse's nightmarish feel. So we don't need Bale back.

I can imagine that 66-verse Batman is already dead. Let's say it's about 20 years later there, as it is 30 years later in Burtonverse.
However, it would be respectively 1986 and 2022 then. Doesn't work? Well, Flashpoint is about time travelling after all.
And we can even tie it to WW84 here. Something in that film could open up a possibility that two years later, 66-verse is in danger.

The Bat-element from 66-verse can be Robin. An older one, as pointed out.
IF that Robin is to do some action, we have to re-do the suit.

Titans live action sort of upgraded the classic comic book Robin suit and made it believable in a modern world's setting. But it was a bit bulky, because it was done for its own universe.

Here's are suggestions for a better upgraded version of the 66s suit if it should be worn in 1-2 action scenes. At least color-wise.
I prefer the first one in line. But it lacks the classic shoes.
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Here's what it could look in live action. Note that this is the BvS suit.
As it's not that bulky, the upgraded 66s suit can be almost identical but with actual green, red and yellow. Because it should BE the 66s suit, albeit a much upgraded one.
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Regarding the actor. Here's what Robin looked in 1966
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This is Kevin Zegers in 1998 or 1999
Isn't there some similarities? I think so.
Go forward in time about 20 years, and it's not far-fetched that Kevin Zegers by now can play the 66-verse Dick Grayson in the year 1986. You don't have to like the actor, or 66-verse included generally. I just suggest it can work. Casting is only a part of it.
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I have one basic question regarding the Keaton appearance. How could even Flash blend in with the Burtonverse world and its gothic feel. Will Flash seem out of place there? World's fatest man visiting Burtonverse, will be a fish out of water on many levels. He will be a GOD there, more so than in other universes where there's other people with powers.
Batman's incredulity at Flash's powers could be hugely entertaining.

Nolanverse has other characters to include. Murphy or Neeson might transfer most easily to the Burtonverse's nightmarish feel. So we don't need Bale back.
I think Murphy's Scarecrow could work really well in the Burtonverse :up:

And we can even tie it to WW84 here.
There were rumours a while back that time-travel could have some bearing on WW84 :hmm

Here's are suggestions for a better upgraded version of the 66s suit if it should be worn in 1-2 action scenes. At least color-wise.
I prefer the first one in line. But it lacks the classic shoes.
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Nice. I like #2.

This is Kevin Zegers in 1998 or 1999
Isn't there some similarities? I think so.
Go forward in time about 20 years, and it's not far-fetched that Kevin Zegers by now can play the 66-verse Dick Grayson in the year 1986. You don't have to like the actor, or 66-verse included generally. I just suggest it can work. Casting is only a part of it.
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He's not a bad fit!
 
Why not the Burtonverse suit? It's THIS Batman we're going to see. Not anything else
It will be. Or at least, elements of it to amor a natural progression to the beyond suit.

Much rather see JGL than Bale. We’ve seen his Old Bruce. It occurs to me that if they’re actually doing Batman Beyond, it has to be in the future, doesn’t it? So will Flash travel to the future? Or are they just planning on using the mentor element of Beyond?

Keaton's Batman happened in 89/92, so that time line, they had batman etc a good 3 decades before us - he goes tot he butonverse where it's all happened already.

It sounds like they plan to ask Bale as a backup but he likely won't, because, A: He was offered $50M to return for BvS and declined out of respect for Nolan not to mention his arc wrapped perfectly in his trilogy, so I don't think it's likely he'd say yes to Flashpoint, B: He's already signed to Thor which comes out a few months before Flash, and C: Bale's Batman going from Nolan's realistic world to suddenly becoming a cross dimensional time jumping mentor for Flash how would this even work?

I always said that the way batman was presented for BvS was with hope that bale returns. An older, weary bruce.. he could have slot into it so seamlessly... obviously they tweaked the script etc to fit. But, it would have felt odd for Baleman to be ranting people, however... Baleman going rogue, evil with Cain Alfred crying for him, would have worked so well... esp if John Blake was killed in a action after the chose him and promoted him...
You see, when you look at BvS through that lens, it works so much better as we have history and emotion behind it.

Whether it would normally work today or not, I think it would certainly work on Keaton. Returns Bat-emblem, not 89! :argh:
The bat-emblem works... regardless.. in the shadows it's dark.. it's gone.. I mean, he hears a mask with ears...a cape.. I'm sure people can over look a yellow emblem.

Bale has already made comments that sounded like he wished he was still doing Batman back during BvS. I'm not counting him out completely.
links?

I got to admit, I feel for Pattison now.... batman is totally saturated now, in a good way... the pressure is def lifted
 
O’Donnell was never Keaton’s Robin
It's called the multiverse.

Having said that, I don't want O'Donnell anywhere near a Keaton Batman project. Let's not and say we did.
 
It's called the multiverse.
Burtonverse Batman can use mostly 66-verse Robin as his Robin. It's the most known version of the character, and them together would be hillarious because of their differences due to being from universes with completely different styles.
I described the matter in earlier posts (Grayson being 20 years older and more weary, having upgraded his suit etc etc)
The other Robins won't be as fun to see pair up with Keaton.

O'Donnell can appear in a "blink and you miss him" scene. Not in a suit but only as 95/97's Dick Grayson. Just for the sake of having as much Bat-centered stuff as possible. Even his haters can be onboard with that.
I want them to cram in everything that weren't included in Crisis :applaud
 
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