Mindset of College Freshmen

Prison Mike

Don't drop the soap!
Joined
Feb 18, 2007
Messages
45,093
Reaction score
7,129
Points
103
To college freshmen, GPS has always been there
By DINESH RAMDE, Associated Press WriterTue Aug 19, 7:51 AM ET


Students entering college this fall have lived their whole lives in a digital world — where GPS has always been available, phones have always had caller ID and tax returns could always be filed online.
The incoming freshmen, born mostly in 1990, also grew up knowing only Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show."
Those are some of the 60 cultural landmarks on the Beloit College Mindset List, an annual compilation that offers a glimpse of the world as seen through the eyes of each incoming class. This year's list is being released Tuesday by the private school of 1,300 near the Wisconsin-Illinois state line.
The school started producing the list in 1998 to remind professors that references familiar to them might draw blank stares from their students.
"Watergate used to be a common reference," said Ron Nief, the school's director of public affairs, who assembles the list. "But a few years ago I asked some students if they knew what Watergate was and they said that was where Monica Lewinsky lived."
Some entries on this year's list are products that have been around for the lifetimes of the Class of 2012, including karaoke machines, plastic soft drink bottles, Windows 3.0 and higher and the Nintendo Game Boy.
Other cultural markers are all but unknown to them — IBM typewriters, Roseanne Barr's tortured version of the National Anthem, Pee-wee Herman's "Playhouse" and gas-station attendants who fix flat tires or offer to check under the hood.
The purpose of the Mindset List goes beyond reminding professors to update their references, said Tom McBride, an English professor at Beloit who helps Nief compile the list.
"It also prevents students from thinking that the way something is now is the way it's always been," he said.
For example, one entry had to be updated within the past month after the Green Bay Packers traded quarterback Brett Favre to the New York Jets after a 16-year career in Wisconsin. "The Green Bay Packers (almost) always had the same quarterback," reads the revised No. 46.
That stunned incoming freshman Ben Zook of Seattle, who said Favre is one of his generation's athletic idols, along with Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods.
"I mean, for as long as I can remember, Brett Favre was the man there," said Zook, 18. "It's almost crazy to think he could retire or be with another team."
New freshman Dana Wierzbicki, 18, said her favorite item on the list was the first: "Harry Potter could be a classmate, playing on their Quidditch team."
"I'm a huge Harry Potter fan," said Wierzbicki, from Niles, Ill. "I wish it was sort of true — being on Quidditch with him would be kind of cool."
Every time the list comes out, McBride said, the school hears from people around the world who say it makes them feel as though life is passing them by.
"We say join the club. It makes us feel old, too," he said.
Time seems to pass more slowly for kids because they're doing more things for the first time, he speculated. But when a person gets older and does the same things over and over, the routine makes time seem to speed up.

When the 2006 list came out, McBride reassured people by telling them it was the trends and fashions that had grown old, not them.
This year, he struck a more philosophical tone.
"It's easy to be envious of youth," he said. "But if you've got a certain degree of wisdom and your body hasn't fallen apart yet, you may be at the best time of your life."
___
On the Net:
Beloit Mindset List: http://www.beloit.edu/publicaffairs/mindset ___

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080819/ap_on_re_us/mindset_list

I know I'm not that much older but I can't believe the kids didn't know about Watergate. I'm sure this will make people feel old, though. :oldrazz:
 
No one reads that ****...lets get wasted!
 
Yeah, when I saw "Mindset of College Freshmen", I thought it was going to be a probing look into their thoughts. You know, like:

Beerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsexbeerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsex
Beerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsexbeerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsex
Beerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsexbeerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsex
Beerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsexbeerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsex
 
Yeah, when I saw "Mindset of College Freshmen", I thought it was going to be a probing look into their thoughts. You know, like:

Beerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsexbeerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsex
Beerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsexbeerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsex
Beerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsexbeerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsex
Beerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsexbeerbeerbeerdrugsdrugsdrugssexsexsex

no, it's just things kids that age grew up with or only know.
 
no, it's just things kids that age grew up with or only know.

Gotcha.

And I'm just sayin', college is the time when a young man's fancy turns to beer, drugs and sex.
 
It's kinda sad that most kids now, are more concerned about trivial fluff popular culture fads and celebrities then they are about history.
 
I dunno, I haven't been alive all that long so it's difficult for me to tell: Has that sort of nihilistic trend hopping just started to pop up in THIS generation? Were kids more interested in history say 30 years ago? I kinda just assumed it was a generally teenage thing to be ignorant about what went on before in all but the most superficial ways.
 
more related to the topic
interestingly enough, this song came out in 1990
[YT]
<object width="425" height="349"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/TmuEZ6hWXq0&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/TmuEZ6hWXq0&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="349"></embed></object>[/YT]
 
I dunno, I haven't been alive all that long so it's difficult for me to tell: Has that sort of nihilistic trend hopping just started to pop up in THIS generation? Were kids more interested in history say 30 years ago? I kinda just assumed it was a generally teenage thing to be ignorant about what went on before in all but the most superficial ways.
you tell me, I teach history to eight graders
 
more related to the topic
interestingly enough, this song came out in 1990
[YT]
<object width="425" height="349"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/TmuEZ6hWXq0&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/TmuEZ6hWXq0&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="349"></embed></object>[/YT]

Actually that raises a good point.

Today's freshmen might not have experienced a lot of political or pop culture history, but they can look it up and familiarize themselves with it a lot quicker thanks to YouTube, Wikipedia, Hulu, etc.
 
Actually that raises a good point.

Today's freshmen might not have experienced a lot of political or pop culture history, but they can look it up and familiarize themselves with it a lot quicker thanks to YouTube, Wikipedia, Hulu, etc.
and it's also one of the things I tell my students, history is right there for you to see, which is something that wasn't as readily available, say, 18 years ago ;)
I love the world I live in
 
What the... hey, I was born in 1989. And I sure as hell know what Watergate is, and I'm not even American.

I vaguely remember a time when everything was shoulderpads, pinstripes, and reruns of Cheers (not to mention some funny times with Married With Children).

Ah, the transition period between the 80s and a childhood dominated by Disney, Americanized anime, and pop groups.
 
I dunno, I haven't been alive all that long so it's difficult for me to tell: Has that sort of nihilistic trend hopping just started to pop up in THIS generation? Were kids more interested in history say 30 years ago? I kinda just assumed it was a generally teenage thing to be ignorant about what went on before in all but the most superficial ways.

Most people who grew up in the early to mid 80s also had lots of reruns and we weren't bombarded by celebrity news, 200 cable channels, the internet, etc., so more kids knew about culture and history of the decades before.
 
It's kinda sad that most kids now, are more concerned about trivial fluff popular culture fads and celebrities then they are about history.

Yes, but its always been that way. Even Socrates said that kids in that day and age were rude and disrespectful.
 
Rude and disrespectful suddenly equals doesn't know their history?

Some of the nicest teenage kids I ever met, probably wouldn't be able to tell you what Watergate is. Doesn't make them little hooligans. Just means they were born in a different time. :confused:
 
I thought this was gonna be about that movie College.
 
Rude and disrespectful suddenly equals doesn't know their history?

Some of the nicest teenage kids I ever met, probably wouldn't be able to tell you what Watergate is. Doesn't make them little hooligans. Just means they were born in a different time. :confused:
Not knowing, Watergate if you are American as opposed as to not knowing what MASH was or who who Mary Lou Retton is, completely 2 different things. History is important, pop culture not. This reminds me of the Jay Leno skit where they ask people who the Secretary of State is, how many states in the US or how many feet is in a mile.
 
Rude and disrespectful suddenly equals doesn't know their history?

Some of the nicest teenage kids I ever met, probably wouldn't be able to tell you what Watergate is. Doesn't make them little hooligans. Just means they were born in a different time. :confused:

I was referring more to immaturity. I didnt say it very clearly. Teens tend to be more interested in fluff pop culture than serious topics, like history.
 
I fear for future generations, I really do.

Everytime a kid says they want to be like Paris Hilton and die a little inside.
 
I was referring more to immaturity. I didnt say it very clearly. Teens tend to be more interested in fluff pop culture than serious topics, like history.
Well, I myself know my history, but I tend to believe the kids think in the mindset of ''Why live in the past?" And IMO, that's the kind of the mindset they should be going for. I do believe they should still know the past, but you guys seem to want them to live in it.
 
Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It.

:huh:
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top
monitoring_string = "afb8e5d7348ab9e99f73cba908f10802"