Mission: Impossible 3

But MI3 did do well just not domestically. It was just disappointing with what they expected not a failure.
 
TheSaintofKillers said:
That, and the bad reception the second one had. .
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It gets a bad rap on the Internet, but it didn't get all that many bad critical reviews and actually made MORE money than the first at the box office, so I don't think it really had a bad reception.
 
Bishop2 said:
It gets a bad rap on the Internet, but it didn't get all that many bad critical reviews and actually made MORE money than the first at the box office, so I don't think it really had a bad reception.
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Not just on the internet. I work in a dvd store, and the second one is usually laughed at. I agree with most people, but then again that's just the way John Woo is. If people expected something else than what they got, it's their own fault for not researching on the man of action himself.
 
I thought MI: II was just cooler. I'd say MI was the boring one for me. MI: II was over the top for sure....that scene with the motorcycles was simply ****ing insane. But, I can dig over the top stuff. I thought in te realm of the movie itself....it worked. I mean, c'mon....that beginning scene where Ethan is rock climbing....that alone just set the tone for how over-the-top the movie was.

I still haven't seen MI: III.....I got the dvd right there waiting, but got some stuff to do before I can. But.....I think the REAL reason MI: III didn't make as much money has nothing to do with the previous MI at all.

Simply put, it's got to do with Tom Cruise's personal life. Americans cannot get past this bizarre obsession with celebs.....and in that light, once they begin to hate one, it becomes a trickle affect into how much they hate they're work. Tom Cruise is a fantastic actor. But, suddenly....after all these things with Scientology and Katie Holmes....suddenly, people actually begin to say he's a bad actor? wtf???

Lots of people view the work in how they view the celeb. Ashton Kutcher seems to be well liked for some unknown reason. But, he's liked....and so he still finds work.......somehow. It's why I cannot blame actors like Christian Bale, in his case- he's a total mystery. Nobody even knew his wife was pregnant until she actually gave birth to they're daughter.

It sucks...but, I think Crusie will bounce back. He's just gansta in my book.
 
ChrisBaleBatman said:
Simply put, it's got to do with Tom Cruise's personal life. Americans cannot get past this bizarre obsession with celebs.....and in that light, once they begin to hate one, it becomes a trickle affect into how much they hate they're work. Tom Cruise is a fantastic actor. But, suddenly....after all these things with Scientology and Katie Holmes....suddenly, people actually begin to say he's a bad actor? wtf???
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I almost didn't see MI :III [because of Tom Cruise mess up personal life] But after I saw the first teaser trailer with Tom getting blown right into the side of the car door on the Bridge .

I had to see the movie. [for that scene alone.] :woot:
 
J.J. Abrams Divulges Mission: Impossible Secrets, and More!
by Matt Webb Mitovich


That sizzling sound you hear isn't originating from the iconic Mission: Impossible fuse, but from the red-hot DVD release of Mission: Impossible III, simultaneously available today in standard as well as both (HD DVD, Blu-ray) hi-definition formats. To mark the action-packed escapade's vid store arrival, TVGuide.com spoke with director J.J. Abrams, who divulged secrets from the M:i:III set, shared his awe of franchise front man Tom Cruise (aka IMF superagent Ethan Hunt), and even updated us on that "little" Star Trek film thing he has in the works.

TVGuide.com: First off, I want to say that I really, really enjoyed the film. I have two young sons and don’t get out to the theater as much as I would like, so the DVD was my first time seeing it. I thought for sure I knew where M:I:III was going, but it turned out I so didn’t.

J.J. Abrams: Oh, that’s great. Thank you.

TVGuide.com: Do you think you could you have ever tackled this project not having had your Alias experiences?

Abrams: Oh, the experience of Alias, and Lost and Felicity, were critical in my not just getting the job but being able to execute it.

TVGuide.com: But specifically Alias, with the espionage theme and staging action sequences....

Abrams: Yes, there was something specific to Alias that familiarized me with the genre, the conventions of the set pieces, and the kind of dramatic tension you get from these sort of stories. It was definitely incredible schooling.

TVGuide.com: In your eyes as a filmgoer and not the filmmaker, what is the most thrilling sequence in M:i:III?

Abrams: As a filmgoer, I would say the most visceral sequence is the bridge sequence. But there's something about the Vatican sequence, too. While it's not out-and-out action, there's something I love about the connectivity of all these sort of pieces and watching the team work together and pull off this operation. Tom jumping off the building in Shanghai was fun, and when he has the fight in the elevator with the IMF agents.... There are so many moments that stand out in terms of my point of view, in terms of making it. But for moviegoers, my guess would have to be the bridge sequence.

TVGuide.com: I had actually suspected — so I found validation in watching the DVD extras — that the trickiest stunt was not any of the pyrotechnic stuff, but Ethan running across fishing village rooftops.

Abrams: Yeah, that was kind of amazing, because that was just Tom doing that, running across the roofs, jumping down, and running across the bridge. No wires or anything. The hardest thing for us was figuring out how to film it.

TVGuide.com: As important as what you include in final cut is what you didn't. Looking at the deleted scenes, there is one set at a cemetery which, in my opinion, could have tipped your hand a bit....

Abrams: Exactly. That scene was actually a tricky scene to film. The problem with that scene is made the audience stop and go, "Huh, what's really going on there?" and by doing that, it put you way ahead of the story.

TVGuide.com: And there's one with Keri Russell wearing the hell out of a party dress, but I think that could have muddied up Ethan's motivations a bit.

Abrams: I didn’t mind so much the idea that you think, "Is he having an affair?," but I do feel that including it in the movie would have ultimately slowed things down at a time when you didn’t want them to slow down.

TVGuide.com: In retrospect, it's a shame that M:I:III's theatrical release was clouded by the press circus surrounding your star, if only because as the making-of featurette demonstrates, Tom Cruise is, by every definition, a movie star, and an enthusiastically committed actor. I wanted to make a film with him after watching the extras!

Abrams: [Laughs] It is a remarkable thing, working with him. I am in awe of his work ethic. Not that a good work ethic is unusual to me — I've been lucky to work with very hard-working people – but at this point in his career, having done what he does for so long, that he still works every day as if it were his first day, hungry to prove himself, is the greatest gift. As a director, it absolutely spoils you.

TVGuide.com: Someone of his stature could so easily just kick back and say, "Cater to me...."

Abrams: Yet he helps inspire the crew to work equally as hard. It's wonderful.

TVGuide.com: Did you and Tom ever bat around any ideas for a Mission: Impossible IV?

Abrams: We've thrown around some ideas for a whole bunch of things, and I look forward to the day we can work together again, absolutely.

TVGuide.com: Are you particularly thrilled to have the film merit hi-def DVD releases?

Abrams: It's cool, and I'm thrilled that it will be available in the format. I want to go out and buy a machine; I haven’t gotten one yet. I look forward to seeing how it looks in HD.

TVGuide.com: I think you could just about afford one now. Changing topics, where do you stand on the Star Trek feature? Is there any framework in place, a setting, characters...?

Abrams: The framework is firmly in place, the script is being written now, and we are incredibly enthusiastic about it.

TVGuide.com: Do you have any thoughts yet about going with unknowns versus established TV or film actors?

Abrams: It's way too early to talk about casting, but the story is incredibly cool. All of us working on it are just giddy about it.

TVGuide.com: My last question is regarding Lost. Do you think that this season's slight ratings dip is reflecting viewer frustration?

Abrams: My guess is it's probably unfair to look at four or five episodes in the season and start concluding anything. I would just say, in terms of the ratings of this show, or the audience, the fact that the show is doing the numbers that it's doing is something that’s amazed us, because the show is a very unique and sort of bizarre thing. I feel like you can't analyze everything, every week, every moment, and sort of decide "This is where the show is," because as you saw this past week, we had almost a million viewers we didn’t have the week before. The air goes out of the balloon if you start to answer and understand too many things too quickly. If the story is laid out too easily, you lose the fun of the ongoing layers being peeled back and answers being presented when they're earned, not just because people want to know the answers.

Tv Guide & Mission: Impossible
 
... it's about freaking time. So, I rented it today and it was surprisingly good, considering. I had a blast, and only wish I had seen it on the big screen. The bridge scene was great to watch. Abrams did a fantastic job for a first timer, except that he obviously wasn't exactly unfamiliar with the camera. Cruise was great and I wasn't surprised at all because he never ceased to impress. Hoffman was deliciously evil in this. Boy, were my jaws hanging in that truck scene. Monaghan, Russell and Maggie did great with what they had, particularly Russell. God, the outcome makeup was surreal. I was grinding my teeth practically the entire time, so that I wouldn't bite my tongue off when the charge went off... sort of slightly expected it to be big, which it wasn't. Maggie is hot, but everyone already knows that. I confess, I squealed when Pegg made his debut. Dunn two-way talking Hunt through where to find the signal was comedy gold. Rhames, Meyers and Fishburne weren't so bad themselves. The whole team felt like a family... at least to me, anyway. The special effects were top notch. I'm definitely buying.
 
Saw the movie. And. ****ing.....wow.

Fantastic Movie. It really is the best of the series. I mean....everything meshed so well. And, even though Ethan is the main character....we still see others shine as well. Luther is ****ing great, his "You don't sleep with your little sister....right?" line was priceless. Simon Pegg, who must have only had like 5 minutes total onscreen STILL kicked ass, even Billy Crudup and Maggie Q.....who in any other spy flick would be your basic "no name squad teamates that nobody cares about" are actually pretty cool. None of them ever take away from Hunt and his entire story, but they never get left in the dark either. It all really comes together nicely.

And Fishburne. Badass.

And Hoffman? Wow......this dude can play evil. The dude is ****ing evil. Great job.

And I know some people might not dig the whole marriage/love story thing.....but I liked it. It made things much more personal. And the bridge scene was just incredible.

It's a really really good movie. I'm in shock at how much negative this film got b/c it's a good movie.

I hope there's a MI: IV. I'd like to see all these guys go at it again, b/c I thin k now the MI films has a nice sense of family that we only seemed to get with Ethan and Luther, but now on a bigger level.
 
Meh, the movie was OK -- nothing special, though. I think this series is pretty much dead. I mean, I absolutely loved the first one (and I cannot believe I actually read that someone here thought it was boring. I mean, that's fine, but I guess we just have different taste in movies. I need more than just mindless action to wet my mouth). The second one was OK, not nearly as bad as some people make it out it to be, and while this one (part 3) was better than part 2, it is no where near as good as the first one. I mean, OK, fine, the action in this one was nice, but again, I need more to my movies that just that.

I just have to ask what was so special about this movie. What do you, the fans of this movie, think separates it from other summer popcorn action blockbusters because, personally, I'm really not seeing it...
 
Dan33977 said:
I just have to ask what was so special about this movie. What do you, the fans of this movie, think separates it from other summer popcorn action blockbusters because, personally, I'm really not seeing it...
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The suspense (like in that opening sequence, where I was sitting there holding my breath) and the emotion that drives it. Plus, of course, some classic MI stuff in the Vatican sequence. Again, I'm on the edge of my seat there. Suspense is the name of MI3's game. The entire climax is another great example of that.

As for the original movie, I'm still trying to understand how Ethan figured out Jim was the mole. Ummm, so he took a Bible from his hotel in Chicago... so what? According to Max, Job never even quoted scripture in any of his contacts, so it's not like that had any relevance to him being Job. What did that freaking prove? Makes no sense. Oh well. Great flick besides that issue.
 
WorthyStevens4 said:
M:I3 didn't do as well because the American public was turned off by Cruise. It's unfortunate, but people are ******ed.
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I don't care what Cruise does, I will see his films, because he's a damn good actor. I hate this f***in' bulls*** with people not seeing his movies because he's "crazy". I don't care about his personal life. I care about his acting ability.

Just today, I was talking to someone, and I mentioned M:I:III and she got mad at me. I asked if she hated the movie, and she said "It has Tom Cruise in it." That pissed me off.

:whatever: :down :down
 
Dan33977 said:
Meh, the movie was OK -- nothing special, though. I think this series is pretty much dead. I mean, I absolutely loved the first one (and I cannot believe I actually read that someone here thought it was boring. I mean, that's fine, but I guess we just have different taste in movies. I need more than just mindless action to wet my mouth). The second one was OK, not nearly as bad as some people make it out it to be, and while this one (part 3) was better than part 2, it is no where near as good as the first one. I mean, OK, fine, the action in this one was nice, but again, I need more to my movies that just that.

I just have to ask what was so special about this movie. What do you, the fans of this movie, think separates it from other summer popcorn action blockbusters because, personally, I'm really not seeing it...
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Uhh.......M:I:III was more story than action.
I don't see how you saw the whole movie has just an action movie.
 
Well, to be clear...I didn't mean that MI was boring. I was just pointing out that, from someone elses post, that MI: II wasn't boring...and that out of the three films, MI was the boring one. Not that it was actually boring, but compared to the others.....it's considerably lower on action and thicker on story.

I think MI: III was pretty nicely balanced. There was some damn good action in there, really high octane. But....there was a good story there too. It's not just your basic action movie.
 
Bishop2 said:
The suspense (like in that opening sequence, where I was sitting there holding my breath) and the emotion that drives it...Again, I'm on the edge of my seat there. Suspense is the name of MI3's game.
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Yeah, I gathered as much. See, this is why movies like this never get nominated for any Oscars—it's all been done before, and better. The opening sequence was highly contrived—merely a plot device overused by J. J. Abrams. Seriously, everything he does starts out toward the end like that, in the middle of an extremely intense, stressful situation, and then flashes back to the beginning. It's far too gimmicky and cheap, in my opinion, and we, as audience members, need to stop falling for it and start analyzing and understanding why they do things like this. While it may instantly capture and draw over 50% of audiences into the experience, it also says that the people behind the movie know their movie isn't anything special and/or captivating, so they have to resort to cheap gimmicks and set it up this way at the beginning to make people think it is—to sort of suck them in, for lack of better phrase, and deceive them. The movie basically says, "Oh, my God, look how ****ing intense we are! We're going to kill the main character's girlfriend right in front of him! OH, MY GOD! OH, MY GOD! LOOK HOW INTENSE THE MAIN CHARACTER IS! LOOK AT HIM SCREAMING! AHH! AHH! LOUD NOISES! AHH! BOOM! Oh, just kidding. See? We didn't ACTUALLY kill one of the main characters. HAHA! GOTCHA!!"

CRASH is another example of this, although it doesn't necessarily start out this way, the entire monstrosity is basically built of cheap, "intense, and emotional" gimmicks; that this movie won Best Picture—let alone an Academy Award—last year is just startling, and, quite frankly, disturbing. I mean, I wish writers would assume we have at least some intelligence as audience members, but they don't because people constantly eat this stuff up. And please do not think I am trying to insult your intelligence here, because that is far from my intentions. I just wish we, as an audience, could start thinking more—start analyzing and questioning why writers and directors do certain things in their movies. In the end, I think it would lead to better, smarter movies.

Warhammer said:
Uhh.......M:I:III was more story than action.
I don't see how you saw the whole movie has just an action movie.
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OK, I see people say these kinds of things all the time about action movies that seem to have some kind of story to them. Listen, just because the movie has a story does not mean it is more story than action. I mean, most action movies do have a story, even ones that most would consider to be more action (PAYCHECK comes to mind). And isn't it kind of sad that, nowadays, it's even possible for a movie to be more story? I mean, shouldn’t that kind of be a, I don't know, requirement in the first place? M:I III was an action movie, plan and simple. And it wasn't necessarily a bad one, I'll give you that—there were a lot of things about it that I liked—but too far spaced in between, so I don't think it's really a good one, either. It relied too heavily on the clichés of the genre. I mean, seriously, how many times are we going to have an action sequel where the star is semi-retired, and then gets lured back into his former habits by a really desperate situation, only to be torn between his new calm, pleasing, romantic personal life and his former dangerous, heroic past. And in the end, his personal life gets sucked into the dilemma, which leads to the ultimate showdown for the hero to save what he loves most.
 
Saw it for the first time last night and expected it to be terrible. Apart from the supremley ghey ending, i thought it was the best of the series. But most people i know seem to hate on it.

It had the 'classic' Mission Impossible feel, and was also almost moving. Tom Cruise was pretty damn good i thought. Shame about the horrible ending, it got really bad from about the time Hoffman got conveniently run over by a truck.

:ninja:
 
I was watching it last night for the first time also.

I thought it was rather good. Only saw up to about...half way through but it was GOOD.

I will definetely buy this when I get the money. :up:
 
i liked it a lot actually. the ending was kind of bad, and i still have no idea what the rabbit's foot was, but yeah... i liked it.
 
I think it was a very good movie which surpassed my expectations
 
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