New interview with Abrams...
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IMPOSSIBLE
MOVIE FORCE
The Creator Of TVs ALIAS and LOST Arms Paramounts Biggest Movie Franchise
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By Mike Russell
Like the resurrected Superman franchise for which J.J. Abrams wrote a controversial, unproduced script a few years ago Mission: Impossible III struggled through a long and abortive pre-production history.
Veteran directors David Fincher (Seven, Fight Club), Joe Carnahan (Narc), and Frank Darabont (The Green Mile) all spent time in producer-star Tom Cruises offices, trying to figure out how to continue the adventures of IMF superagent Ethan Hunt.
So how did Abrams the TV strongman who created the teen drama Felicity, the sci-fi spy serial Alias and the castaway blockbuster Lost get to make his big-screen directorial debut on a $150-million Paramount tentpole?
Abrams, who wrote and directed acclaimed pilots for both Alias and Lost, traces the opportunity to the distribution of freebies. I met Tom with Steven Spielberg during War of the Worlds, he recalls. I wasnt available, because I was working on a version of Superman which never happened, and I started doing Lost and pilots. It was a great meeting, but I had to tell him I couldnt do it, and I thought, There goes my opportunity to work with these guys.
Flash-forward several months. I was shooting the Lost pilot, and I got a call from Tom. When he left my office, my assistant gave him the DVDs of the first two seasons of Alias as, um, swag and he actually watched them, which is miraculous. And he loved them. He wanted to hang out when I got back.
I thought Mission III was going swimmingly [without me]. He never brought up any issues, but I guess things just werent working out. And he asked me if I was interested in directing it. I told him I couldnt start for about a year because I was working on Lost and Alias and I told him Id want to start over with the story.
He said, OK.
Abrams laughs. You know, the odds of that happening were zero. The whole thing was impossible.
In Focus spoke with Abrams for almost an hour, about Mission: Impossible III, Alias, Lost and related matters. (Be sure to marvel at how carefully he dances around M:I III character and plot details.) A transcript follows.
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The first M:I III teaser trailer seemed to echo the very underrated On Her Majestys Secret Service what with the agents significant other in peril, plus a bulky, well-spoken villain.
Well, not intentionally although, as a happy by-product, Ill gladly be compared to anything that's underrated or of any quality. [laughs]
The story while in no way based on that, and in fact being incredibly careful to avoid Bond comparisons definitely has similar themes. I think youll see in [Mission: Impossible III] a side of Ethan Hunt that hasnt been in the films before. Tom gives an unbelievable performance.
I remember one director saying that Cruise told him something like, You want one more take? Ill give you a hundred more!
Yeah, pretty much every day, something would happen where Id say, Lets go again. Are you okay to try something different? And his response, almost invariably, was, Im here to work!
This is a guy who could get to the set at noon and leave at 3 every day if he wanted to. And the physical punishment unlike a stuntman, hell do physical scenes, and then hell have to keep going with emotional and dialogue scenes.
Its hard to really appreciate the amount of work he does unless you consider what goes into shooting a movie of this scale over this period of time.
You said Frank Darabont is one of your favorite writers and did unbelievable work on the [Mission: Impossible III] script. So what made you decide to start over?
I wanted to start from scratch because it wasnt my voice. It wasnt my story. It wasnt the kind of approach that I would take. Not to say that it wasnt brilliant, or that if Joe Carnahan or Frank Darabont had directed that installment, it wouldnt have been unbelievable Im sure it wouldve been.
Was the Darabont script the one that was rumored to involve Africa and black-market organ rings?
A portion of the Darabont script took place in Africa, in Ghana. It was incredibly well-written a classic, densely plotted thriller. It was terrific. It just wasnt the version of Mission: Impossible I thought I could do.
There was too much at stake to come in and work on a story that I didnt feel, in my heart, was sort of my territory. It's not just the money that's at stake: I feel beholden to the franchise that Bruce Geller created the spirit of the TV shows, the movies, the character that means so much to Tom. Hes incredibly proud of his first producer effort. I was shocked that he was open to starting over.
THE HEAVY HEAVY &
HUNTING FOR HUNT
Well, lets talk about your version. Whats the story with Philip Seymour Hoffmans character?
On the face of it, if you say, Phil Hoffman and Tom Cruise are gonna be matched intellectually and physically, you think, Tom Cruise will probably kick his ass. [laughs] But when you see this movie, Phil Hoffman is so imposing and so scary and brutal. He infuses the role with wit and honesty. Theres nothing worse than a bad guy who feels flimsy or arch.
Even though the lines he has in the trailer are wildly over-the-top, that exchange suits him in that moment. I dont think weve seen Ethan Hunt go up against somebody so dangerous.
Can you tell me anything about the character Hoffmans playing?
Uh
not much. [laughs] I can say that he essentially plays a provider of, um, materials to organizations and countries that jeopardize the stability of the world. This guy is essentially the middleman who gets bad people bad things and its a priority for Western intelligence to find him and take him out. Hes incredibly elusive and sophisticated.
And what begins as a fairly generic story theres a bad guy and he needs to be taken down becomes a very specific and very personal story through the movie.
The typical story is that actors love playing juicy villains. Still, I cant help but wonder if Hoffman, being a serious fellow, found a way to torture himself while playing this nasty son of a *****.
We laughed all the time. Phils sense of humor is wonderful and dry and self-deprecating. I actually met him years ago, just after college. He has incredibly strong opinions about how he wants to play something, but he takes notes and suggestions and incorporates them into what he does. While hes very serious, he is in no way one of those Actors with a capital A. All he cares about is that what hes doing is good. It was an incredibly ego-free set.
We hear the movie will deal with Ethans home life. Is he married at this point? And what role does Michelle Monaghan play?
Shes a love interest. Youll see how that relationship works.
To me, the fun of the story and the crux of my approach to this film is where the professional side of this super-spy meets the personal and intimate side. The conflict exists for all of us: How do you maintain a home life and a personal life with any real commitment, and maintain a professional life at the level you aspire to?
Well, the only personal aspect of Ethan Hunts life that weve seen up to this point is him rock-climbing at the start of Mission: Impossible II.
And youve learned in Mission I that his parents died. But aside from those two moments, theres really not any sense of this person as a person. Hes always a super-person.
The fun of Mission: Impossible was always the teamwork. One of the beautiful things in this movie is that weve got Maggie Q, Ving Rhames, Laurence Fishburne, Jonathan Rhys Meyers, Billy Crudup, Keri Russell, Simon Pegg
this credible supporting cast. The teamwork, for me, was always the greatest part of the Mission TV series. And in Mission I and II with some exceptions in Mission I theyve really been Ethan-Hunt-as-spy movies.
That isnt to say that Mission III isnt ultimately Ethans movie it is but the team has a crucial role in the entire film. For me, whats fun in the film is watching how these people work together, plan an operation and execute it. The supporting cast is as much a reason to see this film as any of the stunts, or even Tom himself.
CHARACTER
in ACTION
Each director put his own stylistic mark on the first two films, particularly when it came to action sequences: DePalma echoed Kubrick and Hitchcock, Woo echoed, um, Woo. Im wondering how youll be shooting the action in MI:3.
I think the critical thing for me is that we never cross a line and get into physical impossibility.
No wire-fu?
Well, Im not saying there wasnt some wire removal in the movie
Well, sure.
As much as Im a fan of The Matrix and many of Woos movies, my fear in this film
. My fear in general is that I have no idea if I have a style at all. But my fear was that any style at all whomever I was borrowing from, or whomever I might get inspired by would overshadow the story.
So my decision was to approach it from a standpoint of serving the story, so I never came into something with an aesthetic choice leading the way. It was always, What are the characters going though? It was a relief for us, in a way. By constantly focusing on what needed to be dramatized, it dictated its own style.
Youll see that the action is incredibly hard-core, very fast-paced but there are equally intimate scenes that are emotionally incredibly pitched.
And the approach to the action, for me, is clarity. In action scenes, theres often so much freneticism, you get lost in terms of what the hells going on. What youll see, during our seven substantial action sequences, is that you know where you are.
We didnt design any of the action sequences first I didnt want the action scenes to be dragging the characters through them. I wanted the characters to be driving all the action. What the actors are attempting to achieve makes the action exist.
To me, in the most exciting action movies Die Hard, The Fugitive each sequence, big or small, was completely connected to what the characters wanted, and why. I was aspiring to a movie that was fundamentally a character piece even though it happens to have more action than the first two Missions combined.
People always forget that it was 20 minutes before the first bullet was fired in Die Hard.
Its actually, I think, more than 20 minutes. Look at Back to the Future: It took over half an hour to really set up everything before he went back in time. Or look at Tootsie: They spend at least a reel of the film, if not more, setting up who Michael is, who his friends are, how desperate he is so that when hes walking down the street as Dorothy Michaels, youre so engaged in that story
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Now, that isnt to say that you dont want to start a movie off with a real punch. And I think we do. But its critical that you invest the audience in the characters especially in a sequel.
When you look at the Indiana Jones or Die Hard sequels, as successful as they are, theres something about those movies that doesnt invest as much in the characters. You cant assume, Because the first one or the second one worked, you know who he is. Lets just get to it. I think every minute you dont spend investing the character makes it that much harder to care about what he or she is going through in any action sequence.
Sure. And of course, you had the granddaddy of all TV fight scenes at the end of one Alias season. [Im referring to the epic Sydney-Evil Francie kitchen fight at the end of Season 2.]
The two women?
Yeah. I know people who swear by that action scene as one of the best theyve ever seen on TV.
[laughs] Thats very sweet. Theres actually a scene in M:I:III that that fight scene in Alias was training for.
What did doing years of doing spy television teach you about doing a spy movie?
Doing Alias and Lost beyond the fact that I never would have gotten this opportunity if it werent for those shows was undoubtedly the greatest training ever. Knowing how to work on the timetable that television requires. Getting to understand the genre as shorthand
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Tom had an uncanny ability to discuss the conventions of the genre with such ease that it felt very much like a meeting with any of the Alias writers. We both knew the kind of second- and triple-guessing we needed to do in order to tell some of these stories. It was important in terms of combining a pulp genre with true emotional situations. It was important in terms of action sequences Ive spent hundreds of hours in the editing room with action sequences I have or havent directed, getting a sense of what works and what doesnt.
So when I was on the Mission set, I had this bag of tricks I knew I could pull out if I needed to. And I had a comfort level that allowed me to show up on the set and try and be as creative as possible the way I used to when I was a kid, and I would go on vacation with my parents and walk through a hotel lobby and go, How could I film a chase scene here? Id always look at every place I went as a location for some kind of action sequence. Had I not done Alias or Lost, Im sure I would have been far more insecure about what choices to make.
MISSION
RESTORATION
The Mission: Impossible TV series was born in 1966, the same year you were, and was out of production before you entered the first grade. Did the TV series have any influence on how you approached the movie?
Well, I became familiar with the TV series when I was very young, in reruns but I also re-acquainted myself with it during the early Alias years.
For me, the most critical thing in approaching the movie was not borrowing from the TV show with one major exception, which Ill tell you about. It was more that I wanted to bring the spirit of the shows teamwork to the movie. The fun of watching a group plot and execute some kind of mission was something I didnt feel was as critical to the other Mission films as I would have preferred. This was an opportunity to not be the Monday-morning quarterback, but rather to make the movie that, for better or worse, I want to see. And the teamwork is part of that.
The exception was: Theres a cue that Lalo Schifrin wrote [for the TV series] called The Plot thats one of the great pieces of film or TV music ever. Its as famous as the theme song for anyone whos ever seen the show. Are you familiar with it?
Im sure if I heard it, Id know it. [J.J. Abrams starts humming The Plot] Oh, yeah yeah yeah!
I mean, literally theyve never used it in the movies.
Thats a crime.
And thats the theme that was most often used when you were watching the team do their thing it spoke of that IMF spirit. As much as the main theme song gets your mojo working, The Plot was the heart of the series. And the fact that it was never used in the movies was ludicrous to me. I get to bring that back. Michael Giacchino is composing for the movie, adapting Schifrins work.
Giacchinos a great choice he already did such a wonderful job weaving Schifrin [and John Barry] into The Incredibles. Hes a phenomenal composer.
And his storytelling skills as good as his compositional skill. He has an inherent understanding of character and story and rhythm and pace. Throughout the years, working on Alias and Lost with him, hell constantly suggest story adjustments or cuts or things that dont quite ring true. Hes an incredible resource.