Moore Unsupportive of Synder's Watchmen

[Dark Victory]

I actually thought it was better.
I wouldn't be surprised if Moore really was on some BS.

Same here, the movie was way better than the book, IMO.

 

[The Major]

That's the lawsuit I'm referring to.

I misunderstood.

Fox were sued as the film adaption of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen resembled the CoC screenplay more than the League.... comic book. Moore was reportedly unhappy as he felt it would lead people to think he was given the CoC screenplay and asked to write a comic book based around it so Fox could make a film out of it.

Personally I don't have any doubts that Fox took the CoC screenplay as the basis for the LXG movie, but I don't buy that Moore of all people would go along with writing a comic so they had an excuse for a film.

Agreed.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I just watched the film. I heard alot of good things about it. And yes, it was very good. The best parts for me were the story of the woman in the letter Evie reads, after that, learning that

Spoiler

Evie's whole capture in the cell was fake and V was behind it, and Evie going out in the rain after that.

then Rookwood's/V's story to Finch, and the ending. 9/10.

 

[Timstuff]

He looks like he's been living in a cave for 10 years.

Seriously though, just because someone makes cool stuff doesn't mean they're less capable of being a jack@$$ than anyone else.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Now, I haven't read V For Vendetta, have only seen the film, but I doubt it is better than the book...

 

[Mercurius]

I actually thought it was better.
I wouldn't be surprised if Moore really was on some BS.

Read it again, then.

V was a watered down version of the book. Evey should be reborn naked in the rain, but would they do that onscreen? Of course not.

V shows no remorse in the book, because the story implies the idea of a necessary step of destruction before construction.

A drugged policeman in the end? Impossible for the movies now.

And the book is about anarchism. Can Hollywood or its feeble stems make it? No, they can't.

The movie is an stylized abortive version of the book, which is in the least twenty times better.

 

[MonBeeb]

I think Moore is perfectly justified in his opinion of these movies. From his perspective there are only things to lose. To him it's like, I don't know, trying to draw the Mona Lisa as a stick figure. It just doesn't work.

I think he's wrong, obviously, but he can think whatever he wants. The man is clearly on some fantastic drugs. I mean, just look at him.

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

My problem with Moore is that he is completely hypocritical to object to "adaptations" of his original work when his entire body of work is all about adapting other people's stuff and taking them out of their original context.

THank you .
And i thought i was the only one who thought like that. It's this thing that i don't understand with moore. I think the guy is brilliant writer but at the same time a eccentric/weirdo ( choose whichever word is more fitting) figure.
But it's okay for him to complete change certain characters and interpret them in a different way but if someone else does that to his characters , he''ll get pissed

Moore is one of those talented people that are constantly frustrated with the lack of originality and creativity in general and around their professional craft. By taking and ‘reshaping’ those literary works, he tries to show how things can be done differently, by brushing off all the monotony and be more daring. He is afraid that people will take his work and dump it back down into the mainstream from whence he pulled it out.

But I wouldn’t take his words half as seriously. Go watch some of his interviews on youtube. His voice is so humble and comedic that sometimes you’d expect him to start giggling. Judging from what I read of his works, I don’t think he really believes in a snake god or magic. By listening to some of his words I gather that he is taking magic solely in its psychological effects and creative senses, rather than supernatural mysticism. But then again, I haven’t heard that much about him.

As for his opinion on Hollywood. He is only half right. As he has said himself, he doesn’t go out much. He is stuck in his own little world and is reacting only to what the mainstream media throws at him. I don’t think he knows as much about cinema as he should be. There are plenty of original and daring films out there. You just have to look for them. Problem is they are not bankable enough for all those big production companies, nor are they accepted by our zombie-brain popculture society and are most often labeled as ‘pretentious’ (I hate when critics use that word; none of them even know what it really means) independent art house flicks.

 

[Rasputin911]

Moore has built his career on taking other people's creations and twisting them into barely reconizable, but very interesting, products. (That's not a jab, i love the guy's work)

Why expect Holywood to act any differently?

 

[The Battousai]

Now, I haven't read V For Vendetta, have only seen the film, but I doubt it is better than the book...

They say "better", but that's most likely due to the "easier to swallow" changes - most importantly, the ending.

They took out/changed a great deal of the original story - including a few very important aspects (the chancellor and his "love", for starters).

 

[terry78]

This is pretty much status quo for Moore, he doesn't think any live action medium could compare to his novels. Granted I love him and his Grizzly Adams 'do, but this is par for the course for the old boy.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

That mother****er should get off his high horse. What a *****ebag.

 

[MonBeeb]

No, he's not a *****ebag. He's got a perfectly valid opinion and it's easy to see why he feels that way. From his perspective Watchmen was written to do things with storytelling that could only be done in a graphic novel. Therefore when adapting it into a different medium, you stand only to lose.

Like I said, it's like trying to draw the Mona Lisa as a stick figure. It defeats the point.

I disagree with him but I can see why he feels that way, and it has nothing to do with arrogance or anything like that. He's actually been pretty calm and composed about it. He's made a choice not to participate and he's standing by it. It's not like he's running around whining and bashing the movie every chance he gets. He's just not interested because he thinks it's a waste of time.

 

[BirdsDoThus]

I just get a bit annoyed when he brushes off the film industry in general. I mean, there were people who would say "Nothing interesting happens in comics any more" during the 80's and 90's, clearly those people were just not educated in some of the awesome stuff being done. There are people who say that NOW and I think they are also wrong, we have some great people working on great things.

To just undermine an entire form of artistic expression because you have had some crap dealings with some stupid people...it makes me sort of sad that he can't appreciate it at all, you know?

 

[BirdsDoThus]

I just get a bit annoyed when he brushes off the film industry in general. I mean, there were people who would say "Nothing interesting happens in comics any more" during the 80's and 90's, clearly those people were just not educated in some of the awesome stuff being done. There are people who say that NOW and I think they are also wrong, we have some great people working on great things.

To just undermine an entire form of artistic expression because you have had some crap dealings with some stupid people...it makes me sort of sad that he can't appreciate it at all, you know?

 

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

No, he's not a *****ebag. He's got a perfectly valid opinion and it's easy to see why he feels that way. From his perspective Watchmen was written to do things with storytelling that could only be done in a graphic novel. Therefore when adapting it into a different medium, you stand only to lose.

Like I said, it's like trying to draw the Mona Lisa as a stick figure. It defeats the point.

I disagree with him but I can see why he feels that way, and it has nothing to do with arrogance or anything like that. He's actually been pretty calm and composed about it. He's made a choice not to participate and he's standing by it. It's not like he's running around whining and bashing the movie every chance he gets. He's just not interested because he thinks it's a waste of time.

I love Alan Moore's work, but he is a *****e bag.

 

[MonBeeb]

I love Alan Moore's work, but he is a *****e bag.

Well, in general, yes, but not on this specific issue. This time he's pretty justified.

 

[Sawyer]

Well, in general, yes, but not on this specific issue. This time he's pretty justified.

I'd actually say it was just the opposite. He actually seems like an okay guy when I read interviews with him or see him on a few video interviews, but he's overly passive aggressive when it comes to his work. Honestly, even if LXG, From Hell and V for Vendetta never happened on film, he would still hate what Snyder is doing, just because.

 

[Overman27pj]

Alan Moore, Visoinary that he is, would be unsupportive of humanity in general if you gave him the chance to bash it.

 

[Docker2.0]

No, he's not a *****ebag. He's got a perfectly valid opinion and it's easy to see why he feels that way. From his perspective Watchmen was written to do things with storytelling that could only be done in a graphic novel. Therefore when adapting it into a different medium, you stand only to lose.

Like I said, it's like trying to draw the Mona Lisa as a stick figure. It defeats the point.

I disagree with him but I can see why he feels that way, and it has nothing to do with arrogance or anything like that. He's actually been pretty calm and composed about it. He's made a choice not to participate and he's standing by it. It's not like he's running around whining and bashing the movie every chance he gets. He's just not interested because he thinks it's a waste of time.

Exactly! It's like people are calling him a ***** just to fit in becuase the last guy called him a *****e. Dude was ASKED about it and he responded honestly becuase a work HE wrote was being re-done without his blessing. A blind man can see Hollywood obsession remaking old movies recently have been f-ed up and making comic/novels haven't been any better. Every book doesn't have to be made into a movie and I'd love for some fanboys namecalling dude to have something they wrote redone without their permission.

 

[Bubastis]

You poor things. He doesn't like the adaptation of the book that he wrote.

Get the hell over it. Agree to disagree, especially if he created the book the movie is adapted from.

 

[OctaviusINC]

You poor things. He doesn't like the adaptation of the book that he wrote.

Get the hell over it. Agree to disagree, especially if he created the book the movie is adapted from.

He hasn't seen any adaption of any book he wrote.

He doesn't like any adaption of any book he wrote.

He wouldn't even like a "good" movie adaption of any book he wrote.

In fact, he doesn't like the art of film making at all.

I love his work. I respect him as a writer.

But the guy's just an old sour grape.

 

[Mercurius]

You people say he's a *****ebag because he is not on this crowd pleasing opinioning. The starry-eye type.

If you want Moore to be like that, you don't understand 1 line he's written, chaps.

He knows the movie is just watering down his book. You can easily check it out by watching the trailer: it's all about "looking cool".

His book is the most thorough critic of this kind of thing in comic books. And formally, it has changed the whole concept of the genre.

If I were the author, I'd only accept something that would do the same thing onscreen. And not a joyride of two and a half hours.

Get a grip, fellas.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I love Alan Moore's work, but he is a *****e bag.

Post of teyh day!

 

[John Galt]

He's an anarchist, what do you expect? He's a great writer, but you have to expect that a lot of things he says will make no sense whatsoever.