Moore Unsupportive of Synder's Watchmen

[Hurm...]

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He talks like this guy from 16 blocks

 

[Mercurius]

LOL get off Moore's high horse.

Lemme guess: you are one of those who like resounding & cool quotes (like that Rorschach of yours) but really don't care about what it means, is that right?

Otherwise you wouldn't, I suppose, adopt this herd behaviour.

 

[S.D. Plissken]

I loved the Bat movies, but Watchmen will blow them out of the water. Batman Begins was done well, but it wasn't even based on anything out of comics as far as I am aware. It redid all of the characters completely.

Dark Knight was a kind of rip-off and combining of Frank Miller's "Year One" and Moore's "Killing Joke." I don't know why they didn't just get Miller to write a script. I would have much rather seen "Year One" on film instead of BB.

Batman begins was based on 'year one', 'the long halloween', and a one off called 'the man who falls'. It didn't 'redo all the characters completely' BB has the most in common with Year One in terms of source material. Maybe you should actually read these things before you comment on them.

As for The Dark knight, basically nothing from 'year one' is in it. It did however have elements of 'the man who laughs', 'arkham asylum', 'the long halloween', 'the killing joke' and the first joker appearance joker issue of batman. It was far from a rip off of any of these sources.

Isn't this a Watchmen movie forum anyhow? Why are we talking about Batman?

 

[Hurm...]

Lemme guess: you are one of those who like resounding & cool quotes (like that Rorschach of yours) but really don't care about what it means, is that right?

Otherwise you wouldn't, I suppose, adopt this herd behaviour.

... Yeah, you're crazy.

 

[Dark Victory]

He talks like this guy from 16 blocks

 

[copywrite]

Ehhh...copycat, mate, I pray: read my post again, please, 'cause you really started pressing the same key without much thinking.

Hey thanks for dodging my post in an attempt to sound like a smart ass. Good approach when you know you've got nothing to say.

 

[Mercurius]

Hey thanks for dodging my post in an attempt to sound like a smart ass. Good approach when you know you've got nothing to say.

You know, you shouldn't get that angry. It's not healthy.



(but I politely insist: give it another try and read it again).

 

[Bubastis]

He didn't. He obviously hates the idea of a Watchmen movie. But if he had his way, it would be made with paper Mache and "magic" [/quote]
How dare you.

How dare you ridicule his religious beliefs. I can appreciate you disagreeing with his opinion on Watchmen's adaptation, but back off of his religion, no matter how nutso it may sound to you, ya jerk.

 

[Joker]

He didn't. He obviously hates the idea of a Watchmen movie. But if he had his way, it would be made with paper Mache and "magic" [/quote]
How dare you.

How dare you ridicule his religious beliefs. I can appreciate you disagreeing with his opinion on Watchmen's adaptation, but back off of his religion, no matter how nutso it may sound to you, ya jerk.

Oh come on, he lives in a cave and thinks he's a wizard. Moore is bats**t insane. He's a brilliant writer, but that's really the only thing he is brilliant at. Anyone who just goes "I hate all movies" is obviously not very open minded, or smart for that matter. It's like going "I dont like music." No, you do like music, or you're an idiot, because a blanket statement like that reeks of ignorance.

 

[Bubastis]

Oh come on, he lives in a cave and thinks he's a wizard. Moore is bats**t insane. He's a brilliant writer, but that's really the only thing he is brilliant at. Anyone who just goes "I hate all movies" is obviously not very open minded, or smart for that matter. It's like going "I dont like music." No, you do like music, or you're an idiot, because a blanket statement like that reeks of ignorance.

You think Magick is any crazier than any other religion? Dude, all religions are crazy, his just happens to be one that you dont understand. So you mock him and lampoon him, and you call him ignorant because he doesn't appreciate film as a medium.

But I know you know alot about Alan Moore because you've met him and had long discussions with him personally, so I guess it's ok for you to make sweeping accusations and generalizations about him as a human being.

 

[Doctor Jones]

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[8Diagrams(WU)]

Moore should just shut up. Not everyone in this world has the priviledge of having millions of dollars invested into their ideas. He is a lucky man, and he should be thankful for it. This false sense of entitlement he has that allows him to be condesendeding and patronizing really annoys me. I love the watchmen, but I dislike moore very much.

 

[Mercurius]

Moore should just shut up. Not everyone in this world has the priviledge of having millions of dollars invested into their ideas. He is a lucky man, and he should be thankful for it. This false sense of entitlement he has that allows him to be condesendeding and patronizing really annoys me. I love the watchmen, but I dislike moore very much.

Buddy, he isn't lucky.

Alright, let's start again, from another angle: send me some brilliant work of yours, that will change 1 or 2 structures of some artform and, plus, will entertain people.

Then, I'll consider Moore the luckiest chap in the face of Earth.

Otherwise, don't come asking him to be thankful to a bunch of mindless & greedy execs making a helluva money with pasteurized versions of his daring masterpieces.

 

[I Am The Knight]

He didn't. He obviously hates the idea of a Watchmen movie. But if he had his way, it would be made with paper Mache and "magic" [/quote]
How dare you.

How dare you ridicule his religious beliefs. I can appreciate you disagreeing with his opinion on Watchmen's adaptation, but back off of his religion, no matter how nutso it may sound to you, ya jerk.

At first I thought you weren't serious, but...Anyway, I'm not ridiculing his religious beliefs. Believe me.

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

Buddy, he isn't lucky.

Alright, let's start again, from another angle: send me some brilliant work of yours, that will change 1 or 2 structures of some artform and, plus, will entertain people.

Then, I'll consider Moore the luckiest chap in the face of Earth.

Otherwise, don't come asking him to be thankful to a bunch of mindless & greedy execs making a helluva money with pasteurized versions of his daring masterpieces.

I do consider that a rather priviledged position when people are willing to invest millions of dollars in your ideas. Regardless of where the money comes from or where it goes, or who watches the films. Someone believes in what you have done to the point they are investing millions of dollars, and people will pay millions collectively to see it. There are thousands of people out there who have brilliant ideas, but dont get the time of the day from anyone to get them out there.

 

[Mercurius]

I do consider that a rather priviledged position when people are willing to invest millions of dollars in your ideas. Regardless of where the money comes from or where it goes, or who watches the films. Someone believes in what you have done to the point they are investing millions of dollars, and people will pay millions collectively to see it. There are thousands of people out there who have brilliant ideas, but dont get the time of the day from anyone to get them out there.

It's no priviledge to see your serious works become hamburgers. You are too easily impressed by the amount of money you call "millions of dollars".

It has nothing to do with Moore's ideas, they're frankly outrageous for the guys with the greenies.

They just see the opportunity of making it into a lot more money for themselves, and that's all.

See how afraid they were of V for Vendetta, eliminating anarchism from it, transforming a very regular joe villain into a fanatic Mussolini-like screamo.

Do you think the studio would dream to get anarchist ideas out and a suggestion that the regular fellow almost faceless can be the disaster of a whole country, in sick love with power (like many presidents we see)?

Dream on. They shortened the story, cleansed it from disturbing stuff, and there you go. And you ask Moore to be happy and all thankful?

Or to consider those guys the nice chums all goody-goody pouring money into his, ah-ham, "ideas"?

Nah, nah. I don't think so.

 

[Doctor Jones]

It's no priviledge to see your serious works become hamburgers. You are too easily impressed by the amount of money you call "millions of dollars".

It has nothing to do with Moore's ideas, they're frankly outrageous for the guys with the greenies.

They just see the opportunity of making it into a lot more money for themselves, and that's all.

See how afraid they were of V for Vendetta, eliminating anarchism from it, transforming a very regular joe villain into a fanatic Mussolini-like screamo.

Do you think the studio would dream to get anarchist ideas out and a suggestion that the regular fellow almost faceless can be the disaster of a whole country, in sick love with power (like many presidents we see)?

Dream on. They shortened the story, cleansed it from disturbing stuff, and there you go. And you ask Moore to be happy and all thankful?

Or to consider those guys the nice chums all goody-goody pouring money into his, ah-ham, "ideas"?

Nah, nah. I don't think so.

Jesus, have you seen Snyder in his interviews? He and the rest of the team are commited to Watchmen being a great film. Something that stands on its own. That's where you're missing the point. I don't want to see a complete adaption to the GN. But you do, and clearly that's not going to happen. I t never does. But you don't understand. Because you live in a world where you think the perfect adaption is adapting every single thing from the material. And that's not true. There's no perfect anything. What matters is capturing the spirit of Watchmen. THE SPIRIT. It's not about filming every single panel, every line of dialogue.

 

[Mercurius]

Jesus, have you seen Snyder in his interviews? He and the rest of the team are commited to Watchmen being a great film. Something that stands on its own. That's where you're missing the point. I don't want to see a complete adaption to the GN. But you do, and clearly that's not going to happen. I t never does. But you don't understand. Because you live in a world where you think the perfect adaption is adapting every single thing from the material. And that's not true. There's no perfect anything. What matters is capturing the spirit of Watchmen. THE SPIRIT. It's not about filming every single panel, every line of dialogue.

1) I'm not talking about Snyder, clearly. Talking about those nice, charitable chaps "investing" millions of dollars on Moore's "ideas".

2) I'm not wanting to see a complete adaptation of the book, also. Read carefully, Jonesy.

But I am certainly hoping for one that takes its time to tell the story, which I don't see happening.

PS: BTW, I'm not Jesus. I'm from another pantheon. t:

 

[Doctor Jones]

1) I'm not talking about Snyder, clearly. Talking about those nice, charitable chaps "investing" millions of dollars on Moore's "ideas".

2) I'm not wanting to see a complete adaptation of the book, also. Read carefully, Jonesy.

But I am certainly hoping for one that takes its time to tell the story, which I don't see happening.

PS: BTW, I'm not Jesus. I'm from another pantheon. t:

My apologies. But you don't seem to have faith in Snyder. He really wants to make a great film. You may be discouraged at the reading of the new footage. But once you see it, it's a whole different thing. Everybody who saw the footage said the slo-mo didn't look like it was thrown in there for action's sake. I too believe the Comedian's throwing out the window would look most effective in slo-mo. I think they hit the right beats with it. It's not going to blown out like 300, bacause, well, that's an action film.

PS: BTW, you seem to live in a different patheon of how adaptions should work. Which will never happen.

 

[Mercurius]

My apologies. But you don't seem to have faith in Snyder. He really wants to make a great film. You may be discouraged at the reading of the new footage. But once you see it, it's a whole different thing. Everybody who saw the footage said the slo-mo didn't look like it was thrown in there for action's sake. I too believe the Comedian's throwing out the window would look most effective in slo-mo. I think they hit the right beats with it. It's not going to blown out like 300, bacause, well, that's an action film.

PS: BTW, you seem to live in a different patheon of how adaptions should work. Which will never happen.

As I said, my beef is not with Snyder.

I agree with you that the slo-mo in that Comedian scene is a nice move.

But then again, it runs throughout the godamm trailer, and not just there.

And never say never, Jonesy, never say never. Remember the "mysterious ways".

 

[Doctor Jones]

As I said, my beef is not with Snyder.

I agree with you that the slo-mo in that Comedian scene is a nice move.

But then again, it runs throughout the godamm trailer, and not just there.

And never say never, Jonesy, never say never. Remember the "mysterious ways".

Since we're there, did you like seeing Osterman being blown away and the Owlship coming out of the water in the trailer?

 

[Mercurius]

Since we're there, did you like seeing Osterman being blown away and the Owlship coming out of the water in the trailer?

Yep. Nice scenes.

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

It's not like Watchmen is primarily an action story. So even if the slo-mo will be thrown into every action sequence, most of the movie will still move at a normal pacing.
No?

 

[Doctor Jones]

Yep. Nice scenes.

Indeed.

 

[deathfromabove]

I do consider that a rather priviledged position when people are willing to invest millions of dollars in your ideas. Regardless of where the money comes from or where it goes, or who watches the films. Someone believes in what you have done to the point they are investing millions of dollars, and people will pay millions collectively to see it. There are thousands of people out there who have brilliant ideas, but dont get the time of the day from anyone to get them out there.

he is not getting a dime.

but you knew that right?

they "successfully swindled" him. he couldnt stop them if he wanted to.

and again, he will not get a dime and they are are making this movie against his wishes.

how would you feel if someone took something you created away from you and did whatever they wanted to it without your imput? hmmmn?

but then again i believe in things like creators exerting control, artists rights, and intellectual property, so maybe its just me.

bozo.