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in the last stand Id say it was a choice between Cyclops and colossus
psylocke and ANGEL easily...
oh and Xavier.
Angel got majorly shafted. I was half-expecting the movie to be almost entirely about him.
Similar to Rogue in X1.
at least rogue was central to the main plot in x1...
i can't believe they had, angel, beast, cyclops, jean and iceman all in the same film and didn't do an easter egg cameo...
I think all the best characters got shafted! But Angel was at least an interesting mutant to feature. What the hell was that porcupine dude? what a pumpernickel mutant! It was rubbish!
Kitty. She was only needed for the juggernaut thing and that could have been written with a different character in mind.
Like who? Who else can pass through solid objects?
that isn't what I mean. I'm talking about changing it to suit another character and their powers because in the end the whole sequence was just a showcase that kitty can walk through walls which we knew from X1
Right. But if, for example, we'd had a Colossus v Juggernaut fight (which seems an obvious showdown to have) it would simply be two people crashing through buildings and then be dismissed as a cliche smackdown fight. I thought the use of Kitty both as a cause of conflict in the Rogue/Bobby romance and as a non-physical threat to Juggernaut were fine.
There were so many possibilities for clashes and power displays in the final battle that they were never going to please everyone.
Rogue never needed kitty to make her feel like she needed the cure. She wanted it ever since she saw the advert. I think the whole situation really stems from the unnecessary additions of Kitty and Colossus and subtraction of Rogue and Cyclops. Whenever Cyclops is around I always feel like the team slots into their natural place behind their leader and they know their roles in crisis. Without him it seems odd.
Thinking about it the climax would have fitted better if we had the proper Cyclops confrontation of Phoenix and Jean's self sacrifice. Wolverine vs. Juggernaut, Pyro vs. Iceman, Storm taking on the hoards of mutants and Callisto, Rogue curing Magneto (culminating both her cure plot and what he did to her in X1) with Angel getting Leech and Beast staying the same.
I agree Cyclops makes the team slot into their natural place. But it's not what the studio wanted, obviously. Cyclops had one leadership scene, when they went to Liberty Island in X1. Nothing else. They wouldn't have cast a B-list TV actor if they wanted Cyclops to have a starring role.
(By the way, it's 'hordes' when you mean crowds of people; a hoard is a stash of treasure.)