Movies that don't hold up

Yeah the humor with Austin Powers just never clicked with me. But Step Brothers? I still laugh and quote that movie…
 
I couldn't ever get into Step Brothers. So yeah I guess we'll have to chalk this one up to different strokes for different folks.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
I couldn't ever get into Step Brothers. So yeah I guess we'll have to chalk this one up to different strokes for different folks.
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Me either. Got the blu-ray as a Christmas gift years ago and finally decided to watch it last year or so for the first time all the way through and I thought there was a few funny moments but wasn't all that impressed.

I'm not really a big Will Ferrell fan though. Anchorman, the same thing.
 
makes me laugh how people complain how some scenes don't hold up well in todays society.. like American pie etc, but that's the point... at the time.. that's what stupid kids/people did... it's only now in this era that everyone make themselves out to be perfect and cancel others quicker than a refresh icon.

People make mistakes, genuine naive mistakes, girls, boys, white, brown, whatever... it's a lesson in life. That's why you watch it and cringe... as you did then, as you would now...

Horror movies do all kinds of weird, depraved ****, does that mean they don't hold up now..


let's all be real... the only movie that doesn't hold up now, is this...

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Vaibow said:
makes me laugh how people complain how some scenes don't hold up well in todays society.. like American pie etc, but that's the point... at the time.. that's what stupid kids/people did... it's only now in this era that everyone make themselves out to be perfect and cancel others quicker than a refresh icon.

People make mistakes, genuine naive mistakes, girls, boys, white, brown, whatever... it's a lesson in life. That's why you watch it and cringe... as you did then, as you would now...

Horror movies do all kinds of weird, depraved ****, does that mean they don't hold up now..


let's all be real... the only movie that doesn't hold up now, is this...

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I..... Don't think you understand the point. :dry:
 
The first two Austin Powers movies are great. I still laugh at them to this day. Goldmember has its moments, I especially liked the movie within a movie with the likes of Tom Cruise, Danny Devito, John Travolta, etc. and I loved Michael Caine. But some of the jokes just felt flat and/or repetitive. And Beyoncé was terribly miscast, she can’t act for s***
 
Comedy is maybe the one genre I won't listen to critics or friends because it really does come down to taste in what we find funny. Broad, subtle, physical, intellectual. I can laugh at Annie Hall and Dumb & Dumber the exact same but I see why people who like one might not like the other.
 
The first Austin Powers is still a classic. I hated the second one because it was literally just the same jokes again. The third one was decent but nowhere near the first.

And I’ll defend Step Brothers to my last breath.
 
the warriors for me and it was one of my favorite movies growing up but tried to watch it recently and man i couldn't buy that they make it to that train station at all lol
 
Vaibow said:
let's all be real... the only movie that doesn't hold up now, is this...

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That didn't even hold up in 2001. That terrible CGI was dead on arrival.

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samsnee said:
The first Austin Powers is still a classic. I hated the second one because it was literally just the same jokes again. The third one was decent but nowhere near the first.
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Yeah but the third one recycled a bunch of the same jokes as the second one too. Mini-Austin, Dr. Evil performing a song with Mini-Me, people reacting to the suggestive rocketship, etc.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
They're called running gags.
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Bart's prank calls to Moe's Tavern on The Simpsons are running gags. What Goldmember did was lazily rehash bits from the second one and gave them a new coat of paint.
 
CaptainWagner said:
I..... Don't think you understand the point. :dry:
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Me, I've never been especially impressed with the "But we all did stupid stuff" defense. Just because 'you' did something in your past doesn't mean its okay. It could be wrong now, *and also was wrong then, too*. It just means that. . . stuff you did in the past was actually wrong.

Maybe instead of excusing it in others as a way to avoid any feelings of guilt in themselves, they should just admit "Hey, maybe I am not a perfect saint, and should perhaps encourage others to be better people than I was at that age".
 
Austin Powers the character has lost some of his appeal for me but Dr Evil is still great.
 
Maybe I am a prude but I think the way Rosamund Pike's character is treated in Jack Reacher seems ...questionable, especially in the post-#MeToo age. The way McQuarrie focuses on her cleavage and lights her face was very distracting and male gaze-y.
 
metaphysician said:
Me, I've never been especially impressed with the "But we all did stupid stuff" defense. Just because 'you' did something in your past doesn't mean its okay. It could be wrong now, *and also was wrong then, too*. It just means that. . . stuff you did in the past was actually wrong.

Maybe instead of excusing it in others as a way to avoid any feelings of guilt in themselves, they should just admit "Hey, maybe I am not a perfect saint, and should perhaps encourage others to be better people than I was at that age".
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Yep. It's about recognizing that such actions were wrong, taking responsibility for them, and working to prevent them from repeating themselves. And that's the point that posters like Vaibow or the "This Work Of Obvious Satire Couldn't Be Made Today" crowd don't seem to get. (Or the Netflix execs who nixxed the D&D episode of Community). This isn't about movies portraying people making bad choices. This is about movies that made bad choices themselves and instead of acknowledging and commenting on those choices and why they're wrong (Racism in Blazing Saddles, Blackface in Tropic Thunder, Objectification in Superbad, etc...) they are presented and promoted as fine and funny. For example - Invasion of privacy and straight up rape in Revenge of the Nerds or actual blackface/yellowface/etc in movies like Breakfast at Tiffany's.

This also doesn't mean that movies that haven't aged well due to certain elements are without artistic merit. But they need to be examined critically and contextually without painting over their problems.
 
metaphysician said:
Me, I've never been especially impressed with the "But we all did stupid stuff" defense. Just because 'you' did something in your past doesn't mean its okay. It could be wrong now, *and also was wrong then, too*. It just means that. . . stuff you did in the past was actually wrong.

Maybe instead of excusing it in others as a way to avoid any feelings of guilt in themselves, they should just admit "Hey, maybe I am not a perfect saint, and should perhaps encourage others to be better people than I was at that age".
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isn't that what I was saying... like, it was stupid, it was wrong, but we knew it was wrong and that's the awkward humour? like, laughing at them, not with them and also realize that like, its a movie and no animals or feelings were hurt in the making of.
 
Vaibow said:
share the point then, if I am wrong I apologize profusely.
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See below.
CaptainWagner said:
Yep. It's about recognizing that such actions were wrong, taking responsibility for them, and working to prevent them from repeating themselves. And that's the point that posters like Vaibow or the "This Work Of Obvious Satire Couldn't Be Made Today" crowd don't seem to get. (Or the Netflix execs who nixxed the D&D episode of Community). This isn't about movies portraying people making bad choices. This is about movies that made bad choices themselves and instead of acknowledging and commenting on those choices and why they're wrong (Racism in Blazing Saddles, Blackface in Tropic Thunder, Objectification in Superbad, etc...) they are presented and promoted as fine and funny. For example - Invasion of privacy and straight up rape in Revenge of the Nerds or actual blackface/yellowface/etc in movies like Breakfast at Tiffany's.

This also doesn't mean that movies that haven't aged well due to certain elements are without artistic merit. But they need to be examined critically and contextually without painting over their problems.
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We're talking about movies that didn't age well because they made creative choices or portrayed scenarios/characters in inappropriate/inaccurate/harmful ways. Additional examples: Gone With The Wind, Dumbo, Peter Pan...
 
CaptainWagner said:
See below.

We're talking about movies that didn't age well because they made creative choices or portrayed scenarios/characters in inappropriate/inaccurate/harmful ways. Additional examples: Gone With The Wind, Dumbo, Peter Pan...
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so a caricature basically... ok

just wondering, what we all going to complain about in 20 years from the movies now...

too much violence against our alien friends.... they were so misunderstood back in the days of avengers...

how dare they eat meat back then... didn't they know food would be fabricated in a lab?

sheesh, how dare they make eye contact with each other... my covid 56 shield is mown personal space....


God dammit, people making love.... that's so disgusting, everyone knows it's in a sterile lab...

I think we can all use a bit of common sense and realize society changes and therefore the entertainment we watch will reflect that... don't mean we are all heathens for enjoying something for what it is...
 
Vaibow said:
so a caricature basically... ok

just wondering, what we all going to complain about in 20 years from the movies now...

too much violence against our alien friends.... they were so misunderstood back in the days of avengers...

how dare they eat meat back then... didn't they know food would be fabricated in a lab?

sheesh, how dare they make eye contact with each other... my covid 56 shield is mown personal space....


God dammit, people making love.... that's so disgusting, everyone knows it's in a sterile lab...

I think we can all use a bit of common sense and realize society changes and therefore the entertainment we watch will reflect that... don't mean we are all heathens for enjoying something for what it is...
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Vaibow said:
so a caricature basically... ok

just wondering, what we all going to complain about in 20 years from the movies now...

too much violence against our alien friends.... they were so misunderstood back in the days of avengers...

how dare they eat meat back then... didn't they know food would be fabricated in a lab?

sheesh, how dare they make eye contact with each other... my covid 56 shield is mown personal space....


God dammit, people making love.... that's so disgusting, everyone knows it's in a sterile lab...

I think we can all use a bit of common sense and realize society changes and therefore the entertainment we watch will reflect that... don't mean we are all heathens for enjoying something for what it is...
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Are.. are you trying to equate racist caricatures to a pseudo-future in which extraterrestrials live on Earth?
 
Vaibow said:
so a caricature basically... ok

just wondering, what we all going to complain about in 20 years from the movies now...

too much violence against our alien friends.... they were so misunderstood back in the days of avengers...

how dare they eat meat back then... didn't they know food would be fabricated in a lab?

sheesh, how dare they make eye contact with each other... my covid 56 shield is mown personal space....


God dammit, people making love.... that's so disgusting, everyone knows it's in a sterile lab...

I think we can all use a bit of common sense and realize society changes and therefore the entertainment we watch will reflect that... don't mean we are all heathens for enjoying something for what it is...
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Oh, I can think of a few things, when I see some people's reaction to the idea of black Superman or a woman as the Doctor.
 
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