Mutant: Marvel Universe=Hated, Real World=?

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  1. Binker Registered

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    I started thinking this after watching a TV spot for X3: The Last Stand.

    In the Marvel Universe, Mutants are hated. And the Marvel Universe is suppose to reflect the real world. But in the real world, would this be the same way?

    Everyone, even ME, would want to have powers. But would what happened in THAT universe happen here?
     
  2. SickBoy Registered

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    Hard to say. It would depend in part on how many there were and how great their powers were. Like are they a minority or the majority? If the mutants in real life were like the X-Men, I believe the world would get pretty chaotic. You are talking about some pretty powerful mutants. You would end up with evil mutants, good mutants, varuious groups of mutants, vigilante mutants, etc., all with different agendas. it could really affect the way societies function. So yeah, there would be mutants that are hated, and probably others that are revered, and some that are hated and revered by different people.

    The x-men do reflect our world. They reflect people who are suppressed, like people of different races/sexual preferences/religions/and so on. So yeah different people would have different opinions. It can't be generalized into whether or not humans hate mutants or not.
     
  3. Wolverazio Grand Bastage

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    Depends on how quickly it comes on (supposing the mutants are X-Men like and are powerful/useful in a fight). If for a few years there are under a hundred/a few hundred world wide, those in power would find a way to control/suppress/remove mutant abilities and mutants would either be extinct before they got a chance to start or government pets.

    If a few thousand got their powers, within a few years either all humans or mutants would be dead. In the real world, those that want humans dead would not play out this long waiting game, it would get done no matter the cost.

    From then any humans that are born from mutant children are either accepted (raised without a prejudice against mutants) or killed.

    Not very fun.
     
  4. SickBoy Registered

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    I don't really agree. I don't think there would be such hatred that both humans and mutants could not coexist. Yes, there may be some who feel that only they should be allowed to live but come on, this is a fairly civilized planet. People who become mutants won't suddenly want every human to die. And humans won't want to kill every mutant. But if humans were to suppress mutants, that would definitely create hostility and given the opportunity, many mutants would fight back.

    But stories like the X-Men are written in part for this very reason. They show the chaos and hatred and destruction that occurs when people are treated unfairly. I think most people would want peace. Most people would prefer to live in a world without fear, a world without war.
     
  5. usagicassidy Registered

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    There will always be people that fear what they don't understand...

    Or something about people will never understand what they cannot see beyond their own eyes...

    poorly paraphrased from X2...Nightcrawler says something like it in the X-Jet.
     
  6. E. Bison Registered

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    [​IMG]I don't believe that the comics accurately portray how mutants would be viewed in real life. We already have mutants in real life but these mutants are only deformed from genetic disorders. The most these people get is stairs of curiosity and misunderstandment. In real life, all minority groups have their fair share of majority sympathizers and supporters. Now, there would be a lot of humans supporting mutants because human families would have mutant children. Humans would be supporting mutants because they are still humans. Now, it would be hard for mutants in theocratic and dictatorship countries such as China, Iran, North Korea, and Iraq.

    Some mutants who live in democratic countries but with certain cultures would be stigmatized. In Japan for example, the Japanese culture is EXTREMELY sensitive to physical deformities. If one person is born without a finger or a toe that person is cursed because of certain Bushido, Shinto, and Taoist beliefs. People born with disfigurements in Japan are blamed for their own disfigurements because of the belief they did something in their past life to diserve it. I think mutants would be getting the same treatment as well.
     
  7. Wolverazio Grand Bastage

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    But at the same time, it's different with mutants. You don't need a lot of mutants wanting humans dead/enslaved. If you have 1 mutant at the power level of Magneto (or even Colossus, just brute strength) they could destroy a city by themselves before they are stopped.

    Now put together 10 or 20 or 50 (still, globally). And while most people want to live in peace, if you have a few cities destroyed by mutants, people are going to react. If you live in the US, just think back to all the attacks and stories of "those damn A-rabs" right after 9-11. Ten members of a religious/racial group did an act and all members of that group (or more than should have been) were treated unfairly.

    Now imagine that it is a smaller minority doing greater damage.

    I'm not saying if everything starts out peaceful it would escalate so quickly; but all you need is a few mutants destroying lots of property. That will get the geneticism pumping.
     
  8. SickBoy Registered

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    That is true. It would be terrifying if a few very powerful mutants decided to attack humans or peaceful mutants. In that case a group of equally powerful good mutants (like the x-men) would form to try and stop them. The one thing though that I think would be different in real life is that it would not continue. In the comics it goes on and on forever because its entertaining and peoplke like the stories and the stories sell. In real life the good guys wouldn't neccessarily win the fight.
     
  9. E. Bison Registered

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    [​IMG]It wouldn't be different with mutants at all. Today, humans have the same fire power that mutant would have in a comic book. You don't need magnetism abilities like Magneto to desimate the Golden Gate Bridge. All you would need is enough charges to take the whole thing down. There are also crazy dictators around the world that have access to one push of a button and destroy a whole city.
     
  10. Wolverazio Grand Bastage

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    Damn these pictures of you Bison...

    But the difference is that an individual could and would do it and make the rest of mutantkind "look bad" so that normal humans would not suffer a team of "good mutants." (after all, can you not see, the only good mutant is a dead mutant?)

    And if you did have a mutant like Magneto or Xavier bent to evil, all the armaments in the world could be useless (or ineffective for a time). And unlike in the comics, this would not span years, a few months and the war could be decided.

    I for one welcome our new mutant overlords.
     
  11. Regardless of intention, the X-Men have followed the blueprint of black history from the 60's-early 80's. It couldn't be more obvious that Martin Luther King is at least in some way an inspiration for Professor X. Like Martin Luther King Jr, Professor X believes in peace and intergration of the people. With his Southern Christian Leadership Alliance, Martin Luther stood up to the injustice faced by black people and at the same time, tried to get more millitant blacks, to join in his message for peace. Magneto, who is concerned for mutant safety as well, is his polar opposite, much like Malcom X, was to Martin Luther King Jr. Like Malcom, Magneto is more millitant. He feels that intergration isn't possible, and preaches (at least Malcom did in his early life) sepration between the people. He believes in a strong call to action, that doesn't involve peace, but rather, the very war the their oppressors are seeking. Throw in elements of the Black Panthers in later history, and you essentially have the X-Men already being played out in real life. Of course, since the X-Men are fantasy, things tend to work out more for them, than they have for black people. Then again, maybe not. Maybe the ravaging of Genosha, a land of mutants, is parallel to the ravage of Africa by aids, a land of (mostly) black people. I may just be looking to deep, but the parallels do seem to be consistent throughout the history of the X-Men.
     
  12. Kritish Registered

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    I agree.
     
  13. E. Bison Registered

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    [​IMG]Well, I wouldn't be worried because there powers are not even possible in real life anyways. There's no way someone could manipulate magnetism like that in anything. What magneto does is more of telekenisis. Xavier, he'd be driven insane from so many voices and thoughts all around him. The human mind cannot take in so much information at once. Besides, all you need is rubber bullets and platic explosives and missiles at mags and he's down.

    I don't believe that only ONE mutant would make the rest of mutantkind look bad. After all, it was ONE Islamic extremist working with other Islamic extremist and nobody is persecuting Muslims today. Well, atleast to the point of creating giant robots that track down Muslims all over the world. The world wouldn't be concerned about a "mutant problem" because there isn't one. It's a TERRORIST problem not a mutant nor Muslim one. The fact that the terrorist happens to be associated with a certain group or another doesn't mean that those groups are responsible for those individuals actions.
     
  14. Wolverazio Grand Bastage

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    Obviously the powers aren't possible...but for agrument's sake, let's say they are.

    Rubber bullets won't kill and while plastic missles and weapons are possible, it would take too long to make them into a workable model when faced with the onslaught of mutant attacks (unless I'm mistaken and missles already have a large plastic/non-magnetic metal component).

    And yes, Muslims are not being persecuted wide spread...but go back to right after 9/11. And Magneto doesn't need days of planning to unleash his destruction, he just needs a nap and a power bar. So that fervor of rage would be built up, especially since I don't see it being a single mutant, but a small minority that would be doing these things (10 Magnetos could destroy the world...or 2 Xavier's).

    And while the struggle is very similar to civil rights, the cause is not. The civil rights' movement was a struggle against an ignorant "ruling" class that saw blacks (and other minorities) as dumber/more animalistic/not as good as whites.

    Mutants are hated b/c they are better/more powerful. A lot easier for the common man to be enraged when he is looking at his "replacement."
     
  15. E. Bison Registered

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    [​IMG]I still don't think most people would HATE mutants because of them being the next evolutionary step. I mean it's not like humans are being FORCED to become obsolete. It would take thousands of years for them to finally disappear. I believe one of the stigmas that would be placed on mutants WOULD be because fo their abilities.

    Do you guys remember that cartoon of X-Men where we first see Colossus and he's tearing down a building by himself. Than all the other workers get angry at him because he put them out of work? I believe mutants would be treated the way illegal immigrants are treated today. Like they are a threat to the economy because of how quick, efficient, and cheap they are. Why pay a whole demolition crew when you can hire one strong mutant to do the work?
     
  16. Wolverazio Grand Bastage

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    But it doesn't take a thousand years to get put out of work;). And I can show you some guys that hate illegal immigrants just for that "fact."

    But again...I don't know of any collection of 5 Mexicans that could destroy the Eastern seaboard. And when it comes to that much raw power, I think people are far more capable of quick hatred than you might think.
     
  17. E. Bison Registered

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    [​IMG]I still wouldn't think it is so bad because what if Jesus was a mutant all along? I mean almost everyone adores Jesus so people would be tolerable of Mutants of Jesus was one. I think in real life there would be mutants mentioned in the bible so it wouldn't be so bad. I mean they mention black people, asians, and other foreigners. So its only logical that mutants be mentioned.
     
  18. Wolverazio Grand Bastage

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    1) Most people still have a hard time accepting Jesus wasn't a blonde haired blue eyed white boy.

    2) There are plenty of people who don't love Jesus..and quite a few that downright dislike him (not saying I understand it...but I know people that do).
     
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    [​IMG]Oh, you are correct, it's bad enough that people don't see Jesus the way he actually WOULD look like for a Jew his time but enough that he was a mutant. Maybe God gave him his divine abilities to do his miracles. He could walk on water and calm storms like Storm. He had a powerful healing factor only he could do it in other people and he could come back to life after three days like Phoenix.
     
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    if superpowered beings DID exist the level of thier powers might also cause i problem high powered supers [magnetisim electric blasts] would be a greater threat than lesser powered ones[ athletic abilites]
     
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    it would just come down to envy and envy always leads to hate.


    more than likely if people with abilities did start popping up, they'd be ushered off by the government to experiment on them in order to try and harness their powers or perhaps create mutant-esque weapons of their own.
     
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    Albinos and midgets exist, yet we let them live.
     
  23. Wolverazio Grand Bastage

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    ...

    I should really just start quoting my own posts.

    Albinos and midgets can't destroy a city on their own. Mutants can. That is the important difference.
     
  24. Kritish Registered

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    YES THEY CAN!

    THERE EVIL !!! :mad: They implant there eggs in human's brains. :mad: :(
     
  25. E. Bison Registered

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    [​IMG]Like I said before, with enough charges, nitroglicerade, and a remote control ANYONE can decimate a city. We are already having the same problems that are going on in Marvel Comics only WITHOUT mutants.
     

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