Need 89 Expert

[Occulus]

I was looking at my old trading cards for B89 (i think, they are jumbled up it might be Returns) anyhoo, I ran across Batman with what looked like Batman talking to a little girl in an alley. The title said Halloween. I popped open the boxed set and went through the movies but couldnt find this scene. Anyone know what Im talking about?

 

[Catman]

Yes, its a deleted scene. If you watch the Making Of documentary on the DVD you'll see that scene plus a couple of other deleted scenes.

 

[Occulus]

cool, didnt even notice it. ill check that out, thanks

 

[Batman_Fan_2000]

I always wished that scene had stayed in. IIRC correctly, the card stated that after the little girl asked Batman if it was Halloween, "the Dark Knight GRINNED". Would've been nice to see him with a genuine, non-menacing smile on his face at least once. And it underscored the fact that he does not want to frighten children!

 

[Catman]

^ The scene is on the making of documentary. You see him smile and everything. And, it wasn't the goofy smile Val Kilmer made.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

^ The scene is on the making of documentary. You see him smile and everything. And, it wasn't the goofy smile Val Kilmer made.

Hey....I'm seeing some irony here.

Batman smiles to the little girl in Batman, although it was cut.

Batman smiles at the Tattoed Strong Man in Returns before he punches him into the hole.

You see where this is going? Batman smiles in Forever after Chase tells him to piss off.

The only movie Batman doesn't smiles in.....is Batman & Robin.

 

[DocLathropBrown]

Hey....I'm seeing some irony here.

Batman smiles to the little girl in Batman, although it was cut.

Batman smiles at the Tattoed Strong Man in Returns before he punches him into the hole.

You see where this is going? Batman smiles in Forever after Chase tells him to piss off.

The only movie Batman doesn't smiles in.....is Batman & Robin.

You'd think Clooney would have worked it in somehow....

Yeah, the scene reminds me of an old Detective Comics backup story called "The Batman that Nobody Knows", where a bunch for kids out with Bruce on a camping trip talk about how they think Batman is, and then Bruce puts on the suit, and the kids aren't even scared. This premise was later used in the "TNBA" episode "Legends of the Dark Knight".

Knowing Sam Hamm, it was probably an intentional nod to the Denny O'Neil story.

 

[Bat Attack]

I think the 'halloween' scene was cut because it slowed the pacing down.

 

[Catman]

the scene reminds me of an old Detective Comics backup story called "The Batman that Nobody Knows", where a bunch for kids out with Bruce on a camping trip talk about how they think Batman is, and then Bruce puts on the suit, and the kids aren't even scared.

One of my favorite comics.

I think the 'halloween' scene was cut because it slowed the pacing down.

Exactly. It was a chase scene and Batman stops to have some chit chat with a little homeless girl.

Maybe Burton and others wanted to keep it in, but editor Ray Lovejoy probably adviced to cut it out. Since Lovejoy was a frequent Stanley Kubrick collaborator they trusted his instincts.

 

[DocLathropBrown]

Exactly. It was a chase scene and Batman stops to have some chit chat with a little homeless girl.

The scene is intact in the novelization, and it actually works well, maybe not in the way Burton filmed it, but what actually happens is the kid is a little "out of it." Playing with her doll and oblivious to the gunfire and the Joker's men, so Batman grabs her and whisks her out of the way of danger.

In the film, when Batman runs to the mouth of the alley with Vicki (Right before he looks up and spots the catwalk), she's already there and Batman comes running up a second later because he was over saving the child.

It looks a little clunky the way Burton filmed it, but it's something I would have loved to see in the film.