Action-Adventure New Matrix Movie in the Works with Drew Goddard Writing, Directing

It’s still crazy that a new Matrix movie starring Keanu Reeves in his post-John Wick juice, tanked as hard as it did at the box office.

Granted, we were still in pandemic days but No Way Home made like 2 billion in the same month lol
 
The Matrix Rebooted

That would be my title. Resurrections didn't really leave much impression to me. Theaters were closed in my area and I was watching a bunch of new movies that WB decided to release right away in their streaming service. WW84, Space Jam to name a few.

Edit: just checked to see if I remembered correctly. Theaters were already opened when this movie came out but post-covid was a factor and I didn't want to watch it in the cinemas since it was already available for streaming.
 
Seems like a lot of the movie sites are running with speculation about the Will Smith post. Man I don’t know what to make of that one.
The Matrix Rebooted

That would be my title. Resurrections didn't really leave much impression to me. Theaters were closed in my area and I was watching a bunch of new movies that WB decided to release right away in their streaming service. WW84, Space Jam to name a few.

Edit: just checked to see if I remembered correctly. Theaters were already opened when this movie came out but post-covid was a factor and I didn't want to watch it in the cinemas since it was already available for streaming.

Yup. Regardless of what one thinks of Resurrections, I’m still mad at WB for dumping it on Max and not even giving it a chance to truly sink or swim on its own merits. Releasing a movie in theaters that was widely available to stream right alongside No Way Home was corporate malpractice as far as I’m concerned. I’m a diehard Matrix trilogy fan so when “Matrix 4” was first announced, it was such an unexpected surprise and I couldn’t help but get giddy at the idea of opening night in a packed IMAX theater. While I did manage to see it in theaters, it was a pretty empty theater which added a layer of sadness to the experience for me. Especially after that trailer really created a legit buzz (one of my favorite trailers ever tbh), it was a kind of deflating and bittersweet end to the journey. The divisive reaction was one thing, that was easy to expect from a post-1999 Wachowski movie, but just the feeling like it wasn’t even allowed to be an event even for one weekend was a real downer.

I still think conceptually the movie has some brilliant ideas, even if the execution may have been a bit underwhelming. I think it could still have its moment of reassessment, especially new movie ends up feeling like corporate-driven fan fiction— which would be the no. 1 cardinal sin for a Matrix movie IMO. But I really hope it’s not the case. At this point, with everything going on in AI, I think a new Matrix film almost has a social responsibility to push that discourse forward in a meaningful way.
 
Put me down as someone who really liked Resurrections. I thought it had some great ideas and was a nice re-introduction to the world. It was a legacy sequel that didn't crap on what came before it either.

WB just never gave it a chance.
 
Maybe the movie will continue the meta approach of Resurrections, and the movie is all about 90s Will Smith making a different choice and finding out how deep the multiverse rabbit hole goes.
 
Maybe the movie will continue the meta approach of Resurrections, and the movie is all about 90s Will Smith making a different choice and finding out how deep the multiverse rabbit hole goes.

“Take the blue pill… and you’ll go on to star in Wild Wild West.”
 
Imaging a remake of the Fresh Prince intro where his life got flip turned upside down in a reality called the Matrix.
 
I still can’t believe they turned Fresh Prince into a drama. I’ve heard the show is actually pretty good but I just could never take it seriously.
 
I still can’t believe they turned Fresh Prince into a drama. I’ve heard the show is actually pretty good but I just could never take it seriously.

I only watched the first season, but I remember enjoying it. No beating the original, though!
 
It’s still crazy that a new Matrix movie starring Keanu Reeves in his post-John Wick juice, tanked as hard as it did at the box office.

Granted, we were still in pandemic days but No Way Home made like 2 billion in the same month lol
No offense but No Way Home was actually good lol To this day i don't know what Resurrection was trying to achieve. It had no style, Soundtrack was non existent, No descent set pieces and certain characters with questionable motives.

Word of mouth effectively killed it for the general audience imo. Keanu looked like he was there for a paycheck and Lana was in between a rock and hard place with WB putting on ridiculous pressure. The whole production and execution pisses me off tbh.
 
No offense but No Way Home was actually good lol To this day i don't know what Resurrection was trying to achieve. It had no style, Soundtrack was non existent, No descent set pieces and certain characters with questionable motives.

Word of mouth effectively killed it for the general audience imo. Keanu looked like he was there for a paycheck and Lana was in between a rock and hard place with WB putting on ridiculous pressure. The whole production and execution pisses me off tbh.

I’m talking less about the quality here and more how shocking it was DOA when it was released.

I mean, even the worst reviewed legacy sequels do well opening weekend, right?

And even with the stupid WB dual streaming/theatrical release, Godzilla V Kong managed to open 30M+ months prior, you’d think a new Matrix would’ve at least cleared 20M+.

I’d then say the marketing was bad but that trailer was better than the movie lol

 
No offense but No Way Home was actually good lol To this day i don't know what Resurrection was trying to achieve. It had no style, Soundtrack was non existent, No descent set pieces and certain characters with questionable motives.

Word of mouth effectively killed it for the general audience imo. Keanu looked like he was there for a paycheck and Lana was in between a rock and hard place with WB putting on ridiculous pressure. The whole production and execution pisses me off tbh.

Seriously. Most of the movie took place in a damned coffee shop. The most memorable scene was a bunch of people committing CGI suicide.
 
I’m talking less about the quality here and more how shocking it was DOA when it was released.

I mean, even the worst reviewed legacy sequels do well opening weekend, right?

And even with the stupid WB dual streaming/theatrical release, Godzilla V Kong managed to open 30M+ months prior, you’d think a new Matrix would’ve at least cleared 20M+.

I’d then say the marketing was bad but that trailer was better than the movie lol


Oh without doubt that was a massive L on there part, i remember the confusion from numerous posters in the thread at the time lol I do feel there marketing(WB) alongside NWH just wasn't enough to capture any momentum for Matrix. The trailers were really good, that i can admit but all eyes were on NWH over the holiday period. I do wonder if a certain demographic (Gen Z) had less attention on Matrix overall which led to its premature reception. Once most people heard what Matrix Resurrections was about (meta as hell) they couldn't even be bothered to watch and went to see NWH again lool
 
It’s still crazy that a new Matrix movie starring Keanu Reeves in his post-John Wick juice, tanked as hard as it did at the box office.

Granted, we were still in pandemic days but No Way Home made like 2 billion in the same month lol

I mean, it was a flaming pile of garbage.

And this comes from a huge admirer of the first Matrix and even to a lesser extent - Reloaded & Revolutions.

Resurrections completely ruined the legacy of the original trilogy and undid everything Neo strived for.
 
It seems more likely that his cyberpunk-related venture will involve music, since Smith has teased that he’s getting ready to drop his first album in 20 years.

That’s a weird way of announcing it though unless it’s Matrix inspired music lol
 


Watching that again, even on my phone gave me chills. Such an amazing trailer, I think one of the best of this decade so far honestly. How the final line in that trailer is utilized vs. the real context in the movie is just chef's kiss.

I mean, it was a flaming pile of garbage.

And this comes from a huge admirer of the first Matrix and even to a lesser extent - Reloaded & Revolutions.

Resurrections completely ruined the legacy of the original trilogy and undid everything Neo strived for.

How the film handled Neo's legacy is actually one of the things I thought it handled best. It at least gave us a look into how things have progressed in the real world as a result of Neo's sacrifice- 60 years of peace, the existence of Io where humans and machines work together, etc. That was a lot more than what The Force Awakens was able to do in terms of showcasing the impact of the victories of the previous trilogy, so that mattered to me. IMO it felt much more like following the thread of what was hinted at by the end of Revolutions rather than undoing everything he strived for.
 
I’m talking less about the quality here and more how shocking it was DOA when it was released.

I mean, even the worst reviewed legacy sequels do well opening weekend, right?

And even with the stupid WB dual streaming/theatrical release, Godzilla V Kong managed to open 30M+ months prior, you’d think a new Matrix would’ve at least cleared 20M+.

I’d then say the marketing was bad but that trailer was better than the movie lol


I think the fact that the reviews were mediocre at best made people skeptical about venturing out to see it in theaters when it was available to watch at home on HBO Max. Also, the Covid Omicron variant surged at the time of release so that was another thing that didn't help. Both of those factored into me watching it at home. It also didn't help that where the franchise left off with before then, The Matrix Revolutions wasn't exactly beloved.
 
Maybe the movie will continue the meta approach of Resurrections, and the movie is all about 90s Will Smith making a different choice and finding out how deep the multiverse rabbit hole goes.
You joke, but honestly, if they’re going to make more of these, doing other stories set within the universe instead of just continuing with the characters that we’ve been following is probably the best route to go. Sort of like the kinds of stories The Animatrix did, but longer form and with minimal or no ties to the main series and characters.

An idea just popped into my head of them doing something like a 12 Monkeys-style, smaller scale sci-fi thriller, where you follow a character that is sent back in time (not sure what the logistics would of that be, but that’s something that the writers can figure out) to try and the prevent the machine uprising from happening. Yes, I am using the events of Second Renaissance as the basis of my proposed film, but with a bit of a twist.

The twist would be that it was rogue A.I./machines that sent the particular person that we’re following back in time to try and change events in their favor that lead to them preventing the creation of a human resistance, but that sending this person back is actually what kicks off the series of events that leads to the future that we’re already aware of from The Matrix onward. So, basically, they inadvertently created a bootstrap paradox, meaning that what they did was always meant to happen, thus sealing their own fate. So, prequel, but also not a straightforward prequel. You could have an ending where our main character dies, but goes out realizing what’s going to happen, so it’s a sad but hopeful ending. I guess maybe something similar to Last Flight of the Osiris, but less bleak.

Keep it rated R, of course. Give it a lower budget, probably like $60-$80 million, just like the original. Use a lot of neat tricks to save money, like just having our main character go to the past multiple times, but have only glimpses of each of those past events in smaller sets and contained locations. Also, get some lesser known/upcoming actors in this so you don’t have to pay them as much.

The other neat thing that I’m proposing is that you don’t market it as a Matrix film. By doing it that way, you avoid any baggage associated with any of the previous films, thus letting it stand and succeed on its own terms. It’s also allows people to go into the movie without any preconceived notions and knowing that it has any relation or ties to that film until they actually go and see it unfold on screen and figure it out for themselves as they’re watching it. Plus, a lot of great opportunities for some ARGs and viral marketing. Basically, return the series back to its roots and bring back the mystique and the whole feeling of “What the hell is this? This is interesting”.

I think this is a good approach to go with for any future projects. Also, hinting at the larger world while keeping it smaller scale and more intimate and mysterious is when these films work best and why the original resonated so well when it first came out, and why, as entertaining as they were, the sequels went wrong. Opening up the world is fine, but giving into excess and trying to do a whole bunch in one film is a huge mistake that a lot of films back then, and films now, make.
 
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How the film handled Neo's legacy is actually one of the things I thought it handled best. It at least gave us a look into how things have progressed in the real world as a result of Neo's sacrifice- 60 years of peace, the existence of Io where humans and machines work together, etc. That was a lot more than what The Force Awakens was able to do in terms of showcasing the impact of the victories of the previous trilogy, so that mattered to me. IMO it felt much more like following the thread of what was hinted at by the end of Revolutions rather than undoing everything he strived for.

Couldn't agree more with this. Resurrections handled the fallout of the previous movies much better than some other legacy sequels.
 

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