New to marvel, what lead up to civil war?

[Delta-Recon-1]

I just started reading marvel comics, well civil war to be precise. And im not too sure as to whats going on, can anyone plz explain to me the main events that led up to the civil war conflict? because im really liking the civil war book but im not 100% sure of whats going on lol. thanks

 

[amazingfantasy15]

Marvel needed a big special events to get people to buy more comics over the summer, thus Civil War was born.

 

[gildea]

the illuminati one shot and planet hulk are probably the main things but you don't really need either civil war is fairly self contained.

 

[Purple Man]

Goliath says it in the first issue of Civil War.

Philly getting bombed in Captain America.

Hulk trashing Vegas in Fantastic Four.

Wolverine getting brainwashed by the Hand and Hydra and threatening to kill the president along with a bunch of super heroes. (He's better now.)

Also there is the Sentrys watchtower appearing on top of Stark Tower.

The destruction of the original Avengers. The super villain break out in the first issue of New Avengers. A vast depowering of many of the worlds mutants.

 

[roach]

DC came out with Infinite Crisis and Marvel started throwing stuff against the wall to see what would stick

 

[iloveclones]

Goliath says it in the first issue of Civil War.

Philly getting bombed in Captain America.

Hulk trashing Vegas in Fantastic Four.

Wolverine getting brainwashed by the Hand and Hydra and threatening to kill the president along with a bunch of super heroes. (He's better now.)

Those are all pretty good, too. You can probably find the Cap and Wolvie ones in tpb from. Wolvie's was called Enemy of The State, and part (or all, I forget) of Cap's is called Winter Soldier. Great reads if you can pick them up.

The FF one sort of leads into what's going on in the Hulk (Planet Hulk, another good read).

 

[MajinShenron]

People are starting to distrust super heroes in general. A new super hero registration act has been proposed. Super heroes will have to register their identites to the government and work as agents for the government.

Some super heroes dont want this and some do. This is causing a drift from old allies amd enemies' hatred grow deeper. This is causing a civil war.

DC came out with Infinite Crisis and Marvel started throwing stuff against the wall to see what would stick

According to Marvel, Avengers: Dissassembled was the start of leading up to Civil War. So there goes your theory.

 

[roach]

People are starting to distrust super heroes in general. A new super hero registration act has been proposed. Super heroes will have to register their identites to the government and work as agents for the government.

Some super heroes dont want this and some do. This is causing a drift from old allies amd enemies' hatred grow deeper. This is causing a civil war.



According to Marvel, Avengers: Dissassembled was the start of leading up to Civil War. So there goes your theory.

lol...riiiight

 

[SouLeSS]

According to Marvel, Avengers: Dissassembled was the start of leading up to Civil War. So there goes your theory.

According to DC, Infinite Crisis has been building since COIE. So there goes your theory.

 

[Kotagg]

According to DC, Infinite Crisis has been building since COIE. So there goes your theory.

Too bad Infinite Crisis required assloads of prior reading, while Civil War doesn't. There goes DC's profts to Marvel.

 

[roach]

Too bad Infinite Crisis required assloads of prior reading, while Civil War doesn't. There goes DC's profts to Marvel.

while I didnt want to make this intop a DCvs Marvel thing.........
.........people still read the assloads and are still doing in in 52 and the OYL books.

 

[SouLeSS]

I don't understand how. If anything, DC gets more profit, because peopel will branch out and buy the back issues and TPB's to better understand it.

 

[Kotagg]

while I didnt want to make this intop a DCvs Marvel thing.........

You did with your first statement, bud. :P

As for the profit issue Souless, it's actually public knowledge that Marvel grosses more sales than DC, as far as I know.

 

[Spectre722]

the reason civil war will beat infinite crisis in sales is because its much more accessible. most everyday comicbook reader can pick up either and for the most part understand both. however the average random person could pick up civil war and completely get whats goin on, its much more relative to current events, while infinite crisis requires u to be a fanboy or oldschool comic reader.

 

[Venom160]

Too bad Infinite Crisis required assloads of prior reading, while Civil War doesn't. There goes DC's profts to Marvel.

well im not going to waste my hardearned money on a "big event" that probably will be a major letdown 'cough'The Other'cough'.

 

[twylight]

Too bad Infinite Crisis required assloads of prior reading, while Civil War doesn't. There goes DC's profts to Marvel.

I did no extra reading save the minis leading up to IC and I still understood everything that went on. Also...half of those minis were better than most of the ongoings Marvel prints off each month.

Don't dish one company over the other. It doens't prove you're more of a fanboy it just proves that you lack the fortitude to criticize and broaden your horizons. Both companies put out great books, sometimes.

I picked up IC..and ALL of the minis, I'm also picking up 52.BUT, I'm also trying to streamline my pull list so I can have enough to get Civil War.


Spectre722, on the other hand is right in some respects.

I got a friend to read IC and he's hogwild for DC now and he had no prior backstory save a quick 15 minute rundown of COIE that I gave him. I've also got a young man I know who hasn't read comics in years to pick up Civil War *He's a big Spidey fan* and he came to me all ecstactic this last weds about how great it was.

Bottom line?

Civil War is a compact little package that's going to be MUCH better than HoM.

IC was and is a spanning epic that's trumped every other thing that DC has done.

 

[Elijya]

Just find an issue called New Avenengers: the Illuminati. That's the prologue to Civil War #1

 

[Kotagg]

Don't dish one company over the other. It doens't prove you're more of a fanboy it just proves that you lack the fortitude to criticize and broaden your horizons. Both companies put out great books, sometimes.

First of all, that's the most unfounded assumption I've possibly ever seen in my life. Don't assume that if one insults a comic that they haven't given it a fair chance - I make it a point not to talk down about something unless I've tried it. It's why I don't trash-talk gays...I'm not willing to try it.

That said, I *tried* reading IC. I even went backwards and read some of the stuff that happens before, and I STILL didn't understand jack. There's too much assumed prior knowledge involved. Hell, the only people in IC#1 I had even heard of where Bats, Supes and Wonder Woman.

It's not like I was saying DC sucks overall. I don't think it's fair to say that, considering I don't have broad enough an experience with their works. However, I feel comfortable in saying that IC does require quite a bit of knowledge on the DC universe to understand even the basic tenets of the storyline. On the other end of the spectrum, Civil War is a concept that is simple and yet elegant in its possible depth: you can understand the issue from the first book, and everything can get deeper from there.

With who is writing it, I'm hesitant to see if it WILL get deeper or if it's a simple excuse to have heroes duke it out. We shall see.

 

[roach]

You did with your first statement, bud. :P

As for the profit issue Souless, it's actually public knowledge that Marvel grosses more sales than DC, as far as I know.

I sure did...my bad

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

i thought cap said spidey looked fat in his new costume

 

[Harlekin]

That said, I *tried* reading IC. I even went backwards and read some of the stuff that happens before, and I STILL didn't understand jack. There's too much assumed prior knowledge involved. Hell, the only people in IC#1 I had even heard of where Bats, Supes and Wonder Woman.

And I doubt anyone not familiar with Marvel will recognize half of the people appearing in Civil War. This isn't a knock against either one, but this argument is clouded because you are familiar with the MU, as opposed to DCU.

It's not like I was saying DC sucks overall. I don't think it's fair to say that, considering I don't have broad enough an experience with their works. However, I feel comfortable in saying that IC does require quite a bit of knowledge on the DC universe to understand even the basic tenets of the storyline. On the other end of the spectrum, Civil War is a concept that is simple and yet elegant in its possible depth: you can understand the issue from the first book, and everything can get deeper from there.

I'll give you that the story is simpler in that sense, but any summer event is going to require some general knowledge of a specific fictional universe.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Civil War is going to be better than HoM...hmmmm

If I pooped in a book and sold it, it would be better than HoM.

That said, I am digging Civil War, even if I feel the motivations were a bit rushed. The build up to IC was a LONG time coming.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

the illuminati one shot and planet hulk are probably the main things but you don't really need either civil war is fairly self contained.

I don't connect Planet Hulk to Civil War at all. I'd add Amazing Spider-Man to that pre-CW reading list.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Marvel is just catching up to DC..again.Check out eariler threads,Civil War was made to combat Infinite Crisis,which i doubt CW will suprpass IC.

Its just sad how Marvel is throwing stuff together and people still buy into it,oh well..i suppose Marvel readers will just waste their money again,like on The Other and HoM.

 

[Purple Man]

Marvel is playing catch up with DC which is true, but that alone doesn't mean that whatever Marvel comes up with is going to be total slop.

I can't speak for all the Civil War tie in issues, but I know (I'm from the future so don't bother questioning me) that Civil War isn't going to be the major stink bomb a lot of people think it's going to be.

I'm sorry I didn't transport myself far enough into the past to prevent Jourmugand from making an ass of himself and having to eat that humble pie in a few months.