No Shared Universe for DC Films

[RoughNTumble]

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[HighFivingMF]

That's every fanboy's secret, MF. They're always angry.

*Hopes I'm not a metal dragon thingy*

 

[metaphysician]

Ah, one of my favorites. Just let me toss out this bit of wisdom: "Everything is possible to the man who doesn't have to do it."

 

[jmc]

Lets get one thing right, you don't need to 'introduce' characters via solo films for an ensemble movie. I don't care how much history a character has anyone claiming you can't do a JL film unless we've met the characters before hand is wrong. The question is whether a JL film does anything for these characters in the first place.

 

[Ultra Nolanite]

Why is everyone in this thread so angry?

We want our JLA movie dammit ! and we

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want it to kick the living **** out of the Avengers

...oops did I say that out loud ?

 

[Thundercrack85]

Lets get one thing right, you don't need to 'introduce' characters via solo films for an ensemble movie. I don't care how much history a character has anyone claiming you can't do a JL film unless we've met the characters before hand is wrong. The question is whether a JL film does anything for these characters in the first place.

No, but I would prefer it. And I'm not alone apparently.

 

[Nemesis Prime]

We want our JLA movie dammit ! and we

Spoiler

want it to kick the living **** out of the Avengers

...oops did I say that out loud ?

Sorry to break this to you but.. ain't gonna happen.

 

[jmc]

No, but I would prefer it. And I'm not alone apparently.

And I'd prefer separate universes.

 

[Thundercrack85]

And I'd prefer separate universes.

But we already have those. At least for Batman, Superman and... Green Lantern.

 

[jmc]

Yep, and I want that continued.

 

[metaphysician]

Make up your mind. Do you want separate universes, or do you want JLA? You can't really have both, because even WB isn't dumb enough to think its a good idea to have two independent and coexisting versions of the same characters on the big screen at the same time.

 

[CConn]

You could kinda do both, actually.

I mean, have it be like it is in the comics; the JLA exists and is definitely there, but once the heroes go off and return to their own cities, the tone and focus of their stories is totally different than JLA's, and the JLA is rarely, if ever, mentioned.

Do the same thing for the movies. Yeah, they would technically exist in the same universe, but, at the same time, they wouldn't crossover or be at all intermingled with each other.

 

[AvengeME]

Then I don't see why they still couldn't exist in the same timeline with the same cast from each franchise. The problem with Marvel is that they were forcing other characters on Iron Man 2 although less so with the other movies, but the SHIELD was sort of distracting in IM2. That was the only notable time where it brought down the quality of the solo movie.

I really don't think audiences are going to care if Batman goes from his semi-realistic realm to a more comic book realm. We have seen him in both mediums long enough. What audiences will notice is that these separate continuities are more detracting than having a single continuity, and having new actors will annoy the hell out of them. That much is obvious.

The only way you could have separate universes is if you do a solo franchises first, and then do a JL franchise with a new cast, but don't run the two concurrently. That would never work unless they are all tied together.

Or do a JL movie, and if successful: 1) Make a trilogy 2) Do spin off movies if JL is successful but not enough to spawn a franchise.

The worst thing you can do is have separate franchises showcasing the same characters run concurrently.

 

[CConn]

Yes, I definitely agree, you couldn't have different actors playing the same characters at the same time. That wouldn't work.

But outside of utilizing the same actors, crossing over really isn't necessary at all.

 

[Raiden]

Yes, I definitely agree, you couldn't have different actors playing the same characters at the same time. That wouldn't work.

But outside of utilizing the same actors, crossing over really isn't necessary at all.

I don't believe that you can do a JLA movie and keep standalone movies at the same time, but if WB wants to do it this way then by all means do it. I have a feeling they won't, though.

 

[CConn]

Personally, I have a feeling, despite The Avengers success, they won't make any of these movies for a very very long time.

 

[Cain]

Personally, I have a feeling, despite The Avengers success, they won't make any of these movies for a very very long time.

With everything WB has on their plate as a studio I believe that this is a correct and logical assumption to make. If anything it will just make them rethink their position on non Bats or Supes mainstream DC superhero properties in the future; the very distant future.

 

[Raiden]

The problem with WB is that they don't see DC movies as their bread-and- butter, like Marvel does. They have a set number of tent pole movies out a year and DC gets one every year or every other year. If they want to make JLA then they must rethink their way of doing things.

 

[MadVillainy]

The problem with WB is that they don't see DC movies as their bread-and- butter, like Marvel does. They have a set number of tent pole movies out a year and DC gets one every year or every other year. If they want to make JLA then they must rethink their way of doing things.

Yeah I think WB would have to make a DC Studios/DC Films/whatever and get all the rights under a few producers.
CHarles Roven has Flash Superman and Batman; while Wonder Woman is being produced by Joel Silver, Leonardo DiCaprio has Aquaman, and Greg Berlanti has GL. All the MCU movies were primarily produced by Avi Arad & Kevin Fiege or just Kevin Fiege, I dont know much about the movie industry but I have a feeling that it helps.

 

[DaveMoral]

To get this stuff done with DC they really need to create a sub-division of DC Entertainment and create DC Studios. Gather a talent pool, stop farming out to other studios like Legendary, and go in-house.

That's why Marvel's work is so strong and why this is their bread and butter... Marvel Studios was created to bring their heroes to life. Plain and simple. DC Studios could be charged with the same. Kick it off with the Batman reboot and perhaps MOS2 if it is to be. Develop GL2, don't drop RR and Mark Strong, do some re-inventing to streamline the process and cut costs some. Which to me means dropping to totally CGI costumes in favor of practical costuming with some kind of explanation for how it manifests depending upon the mindset of the ring bearer. Use those three to float the shared universe. With GL this is easy, there can be a scene of the Book of Oa that mentions the destruction of Krypton or something. Bats and Supes just needs a newspaper headline, tv report.

Maybe do a Trinity film to bring in Wonder Woman. Then JL.

 

[kguillou]

Yeah I think WB would have to make a DC Studios/DC Films/whatever and get all the rights under a few producers.
CHarles Roven has Flash Superman and Batman; while Wonder Woman is being produced by Joel Silver, Leonardo DiCaprio has Aquaman, and Greg Berlanti has GL. All the MCU movies were primarily produced by Avi Arad & Kevin Fiege or just Kevin Fiege, I dont know much about the movie industry but I have a feeling that it helps.

Wait what??? I did not know this.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Wait what??? I did not know this.

Yeah, his production company has the rights to Aquaman and Adam Strange apparently.

 

[Micromind]

WB has got back Wonder Woman rights from Joel Silver back in 2009.

http://www.deadline.com/tag/joel-silver/

Robinov then decided to reexamine the gross profit participations of all the DC Comics superheroes being developed as Warner Bros movies. Most of the superhero projects were taken back by the studio, and DC Entertainment created to house them. Silver lost Wonder Woman and began to grumble loudly that his by then 10 years of developing her was history.

 

[MadVillainy]

^^^Did not know that. Thanks for that

 

[CConn]

I'd be cool with a Roven/DiCaprio team up.