No X-4

I wish they would make an X4, just make it a prequel, but don't advertise it as a prequel. Just establish that it takes place before wolverine and Rogue get there. That way you can have most of the team come back and do another trilogy.
 
If they make an X4, I'm not going to commit the same mistake as I did with X3: watching the trailers and pix (images in general). They made me expect me "so much"... especially with Beast *ahem*. I've been waiting with anxiety since Nov. 2005 to come out and when it did... well, you know the rest. I realised that all the images we've seen on the internet were basically everything in the movie... :mad:
 
well don't blame yourself, they did give way too much which was stupid to do.

Take all the TV Spots and trailers and you have the whole movie.

Remember when those Tombstones came out of Jean and Scott and everyone believed them to be obvious fakes.

SO WRONG! :(
 
Yes, I wasn't "there" when it came out, but I've seen back in the topic of "funny images" and I saw that pic. People couldn't believe it, they made some funny jokes with the image though lol

Btw you added a capital T for tombstones... scary :D
 
La_She-Beast said:
Yes, I wasn't "there" when it came out, but I've seen back in the topic of "funny images" and I saw that pic. People couldn't believe it, they made some funny jokes with the image though lol

Yeah I was looking back at the posts after seeing the movie and I came across those. They did look so fake it was almost impossible to believe that that's what's supposed to happen in the movie

That's why the only logical explanation is that it's all one of Scott's bad dreams. He wakes up and is right back where he started from at the beginning of X3, a perfect way to set up X4 You do a flashback showing Jean killing him and then killing Prof X and then Logan killing her, and Scott bolts upright in bed, panting and sweating :)
 
gambitfire said:
^ i totally agree but he does have a pretty big fangirl following, but i doubt their big enough.

Also let's not forget those ever so loving Wolverine fans who will be there front and center.

I for one Still don't think it's enough though.

Edit- Post for Mother Askani

Comic book movies are never made for fans. The Wolvie fans will be upset about something. How about that stupid statement made recently by one of the writers of the Wolvie movie about how Hugh knows more about Wolverine than Chris Clarement.

I'm never been a Defender of CC, but the concept that Hugh knows more about Logan than CC is laughable and clearly shows the egotism involved here. Wolvie's orgin will be re-written and the fans will be pissed off over something.

I've never thought Wolvie is a good character when he's the star. He's a good supporting character, and if the Wolvie spinoff is a prequel, it's the same story that's already been in the movie and there's been a million different variants of in the comics. No one is going to care. Wolvie & Kitty Pryde or even a film version of Uncanny X-Men 268, then that might work.

The question is would more non-fans go to see a Wolvie movie starring Hugh Jackman or a X4 without Hugh and Halle?

I believe it's X4. People don't care about the stars, as long as it's a good movie, and X-Men is far better branded than Wolvie is.

The marketing for a Wolvie spinoff is going to be primarily focused on reminding the non X-fans that Wolvie's part of the X-Men. And I'm betting a large portion of people are going to be disappointed that the other X-Men aren't in the movie.
 
What's going to happen is that all the Wolverine fans will be split in half.

Here is why.

Half of the fans are new and don't care about his origins or they just love Hugh Jackman.

The other half are hardcore Wolverine all the way.

So come Wolverine if it isn't done right one group is going to be pissed and they begin a war amongst themsevles and there i will be on the sidelines LMAO!!! MUWUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

lol sorry i got too carried away again.
 
Mother_Askani said:
The marketing for a Wolvie spinoff is going to be primarily focused on reminding the non X-fans that Wolvie's part of the X-Men. And I'm betting a large portion of people are going to be disappointed that the other X-Men aren't in the movie.

I wouldn't be surprised if FOX pulls a stunt like this.
 
Mother_Askani said:
The marketing for a Wolvie spinoff is going to be primarily focused on reminding the non X-fans that Wolvie's part of the X-Men. And I'm betting a large portion of people are going to be disappointed that the other X-Men aren't in the movie.

I agree. I think what the marketers fail to realize is that Wolverine might be the most popular of the X-men characters and a cash cow, but how big of a profit does Marvel make off of Wolverine as compared to how much they make on the rest of the X-men storylines and spinoffs combined? If it is what I'm thinking it is, then this movie is not going to be anywhere near as profitable as X3 was, but will no doubt cost around the same to produce. Spinoffs in movies, tv shows, and other media are rarely as successful as the full-cast storylines they branch off from.

The X-men, aka "Wolverine and X-men" movies appealed to a much broader general audience and established fanbase than a Wolverine movie ever will.
 
gambitfire said:
What's going to happen is that all the Wolverine fans will be split in half.

Here is why.

Half of the fans are new and don't care about his origins or they just love Hugh Jackman.

The other half are hardcore Wolverine all the way.

So come Wolverine if it isn't done right one group is going to be pissed and they begin a war amongst themsevles and there i will be on the sidelines LMAO!!! MUWUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

lol sorry i got too carried away again.

The internet community is formed of people much more obsessive than those in the real world, so the anxieties and divides are much greater.

They seem to be including many other characters in Wolverine, and that will the key to broadening its appeal. Wolverine is far from my favourite character, but I will see the movie.

Having said that, I'd prefer an X4 to see Gambit and others -- but God knows how they'd do it. How do you continue from the final scenes with Xavier and Magneto?
 
X-Maniac said:
Having said that, I'd prefer an X4 to see Gambit and others -- but God knows how they'd do it. How do you continue from the final scenes with Xavier and Magneto?

You bypass them. As you and the others like to point out, the general audience isn't that concerned with little details nor are they likely to remember what happened in the previous films, so you can let little things like this slip under the rug. :)
 
ntcrawler said:
You bypass them. As you and the others like to point out, the general audience isn't that concerned with little details nor are they likely to remember what happened in the previous films, so you can let little things like this slip under the rug. :)

Well, you could be left to assume that Xavier stays in hiding at Moira's lab, and that Magneto (his powers reduced to their infancy) is out of action as regards any crime or mayhem... so bypassing them wouldn't be out of the question. But I'd prefer to see it resolved as it involves key characters who are the foundations of the franchise's themes.

You keep saying that X3 failed in every sense to follow on from X1 and X2, but I don't see that at all. Jean returned, Cyclops was out of the way (as in X2), Magneto's war happened, Pyro had clearly chosen to be a baddie who had cemented his alliance with the Brotherhood, Storm was still opinionated, Rogue was still insecure, Wolverine was still a maverick. In a (deleted) scene in X1, Rogue had even asked Storm if she could be cured, so that was foreshadowed too - even though the scene was cut, it still exists as part of the writers' and director's ideas/intentions.
 
X-Maniac said:
You keep saying that X3 failed in every sense to follow on from X1 and X2, but I don't see that at all.

i'll make an elaborate post on this in another thread sometime this week so you'll see better what I'm talking about. I'll list all the inconsistencies, contradictions, abandoned ideas, and broken promises that I feel X3 made

Jean returned

One of the few things that was consistent

, Cyclops was out of the way (as in X2)

You consider this being a recurring theme and staying consistent with a previous film? Well Xavier was still bald and handicapped, does that consider being consistent?
, Magneto's war happened,
That was a war? That was more like an act of terror. The aftermath of what Magneto did, and the aftermath of that botched attempt with the evil Cerebro to kill all mutants and then all humans, that should be the precursor to a war. The real war would be something that is beyond any scale that Magneto can handle, and beyond any scale that the X-men can engage in and try to stop.
Pyro had clearly chosen to be a baddie who had cemented his alliance with the Brotherhood
I'll grant you that.
, Storm was still opinionated
Even more so than before it seems
, Rogue was still insecure,
Actually that is not consistent. She was a hell of alot more secure and confident with herself before she suddenly slipped back into what she was at the beginning of X1. All they tried to do for her, all the work she did along with her family members was flushed down the toilet all of a sudden. I expected to see her and Hank face a conflict with regrads to the cure. Seems there never was any sort of conflict from the beginning. Hank simply decided "no". and Marie decided "yes". I'm not the only one who sees this as an inconsistency.
Wolverine was still a maverick.
Isn't he always? I hardly expected him to be a clean-shaven family member telling bedtime stories to Syrin and Artie.

In a (deleted) scene in X1, Rogue had even asked Storm if she could be cured, so that was foreshadowed too - even though the scene was cut, it still exists as part of the writers' and director's ideas/intentions.

Yes, and look at the essense of that scene. Storm explains to Rogue that there is no simple, quick-fix solution, no proverbial pill that one can pop and be "cured" of their mutation. The purpose of this school is to give them shelter, to teach them to develop their skills with regards to skillfully controlling and wielding their mutations, and teaching them how to cope so they can go on with their lives. It's sort of like the concept behind losing weight: there is no magic pill or "cure" to replace hard work and dedication. X3 almost made a mockery of that by offering an easy way out. It's was nice to see at least the implication that this easy way out is not permanent.

But at the same time the whole notion is crazy. To have a major pharmaceutical company release a highly anticipated and contested product and to realize that it had even been tested properly for side effects or whether the results are permanent!!! Medicine isn't like beta-testing software, people! Did they even try using it on a mutant at all? Apparently not.
 
Retroman said:
I wanted to see Gambit badly.:(


The cast say they love the films so much and they say the love their fellow cast and crew members so much. Now if this is the case and they all enjoy working with either so much, then why not make a sacrifice to do that?So what if you don't make 15 million this time around.Why not settle for 5 or less?I would:D

Business is Business.... you ppl need to understand that and let this go... this article makes perfect sense... X4 is just way too much $$$... not even the studios want to recast... sell the rights... get a new studio/producers in ten years... and reboot or make a new trilogy...
 
People keep saying X3 contradicts the first two, but I thought X2 contradicted X1 many times. Cerebro (according to X2, Pro.X would have killed Rogue and everyone at the train station), Storm's accent (which, imo, gave her some depth - showing that she is from Africa), actors (Kitty, Pryo, etc), only two mentions of the liberty island attack (this could actually start a war - the other countries could see this as an american terror attempt at their leader), I believe the mansion was different, but I could be wrong on that one, etc.

All the movies contradict in some way.
 
Those aren't quite contradictions but rather continuity errors.

Oh, and the mansion being different was more an issue of filming location... in X1 it was Casa Loma in Toronto and in X2 it was a military college in Vancouver.
 
^^yeah... but still, X1 and 2 are just as guilty with contradictions and continuity errors as X3, imo.
 
triplefive said:
Those aren't quite contradictions but rather continuity errors.

Oh, and the mansion being different was more an issue of filming location... in X1 it was Casa Loma in Toronto and in X2 it was a military college in Vancouver.

Wasn't it Hatley Castle as the mansion?
 
ntcrawler said:
Wasn't it Hatley Castle as the mansion?
I think that was just for the exteriors.. the interiors were done at Royal Roads or something like that.
 

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