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Vince's sense of humor is terrible. How he thinks some of this stuff helps his product is beyond me.

I absolutely would like to see wrestlers vying to become #1 contenders for the mid cards and tag titles. I prefer when the emphasis is on the "sports" aspect and not the "entertainment."

A summer of Punk vs Heyman/Cesaro...*sigh*...just imagine what could have been!

You're probably right, our age has a lot to do with it. Between my work schedule, family and social obligations, trying to keep up with sports and other tv programs, as well as my other outside interests, I'd have to actually schedule time to watch the Network consistently. Outside of pay per views, I just can't do that right now.

Vince's humour dial seems to have been stuck on "frat boy" for 2 decades.

I think the beauty of #1 contenders matches on a 3 hour show is it gives off the impression of less filler, like how they have made Zayn vs Breeze a #1 contenders match on NXT Takeover instead of just a regular singles match, the little details add to a match's worth.

Oh it would have been glorious, sadly Punk vs Cesaro will probably remain near the top of my "what might have been" list. :(

That's the issue most at play IMO and I can see the network subscriptions going down once the price goes and certainly if the PPV's are removed, I'm just not sure it's a viable piece of business for WWE and could go the way of the WBF and the XFL.
 
I've been watching quite a lot of ROH lately to catch up and they have some talents I am sure WWE will be keeping an eye on, but one I think could come straight into the mix is Hanson. I know he's a nobody in ROH but that could benefit him, he's a hoss that can work and is tailor made to be the 4th Wyatt family member.

 
Triple H did a conference call with the wrestling media today to promote Thursday's NXT Takeover event, an event he sounds very proud and excited about. Here are some highlights:

* They aren't sure if NXT will have monthly live specials on the WWE Network yet but never say never and they will likely end up being quarterly. He talked about not wanting to get sidetracked and away from what NXT really is, where they get talents ready for the future.

* He admitted that just because something works well in NXT doesn't mean it will work on the main roster and the transition from NXT to the main roster is a tough one. Still, he is very happy with NXT, the talents there and the talents who have came up.

* He talked about using main roster Superstars to help the younger talent in NXT, like Tyson Kidd. Triple H said he believes in Kidd. He also said Cesaro has been great in working with the NXT talents.

* We will see NXT become a bigger part of the Network as it grows.

* Triple H confirmed that they have thought about doing the NXT TV tapings more often but said the more you film, the higher costs are. He would love for NXT to be live every week but there are many factors involved. He said everything is on the table.

* WWE has held tryouts in the Middle East, Europe and Brazil recently. Triple H is focused on working with creative to recruit international talents.

* Triple H didn't know 100% if Tough Enough would be filmed at the Performance Center in Orlando but said it's being planned out.

* He couldn't give medical updates on Christian or Rey Mysterio due to HIPPA laws but said they are recovering.

* He had no comment on Prince Devitt and KENTA but knows who they are.

* He said they are still in talks with former NFL player Shawne Merriman and they would love to have him onboard.

* He believes there is big opportunity for NXT to succeed as its own brand and said even Vince McMahon acknowledged that they have created a brand in NXT. He said Vince was expecting just a TV show but got a brand instead. Vince was surprised by the buzz NXT has received since the Network launched.



Read more at http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news...out-future-plans-for-nxt/#gyeqh6bmatZLtd1w.99
 
This is officially the greatest wrestling T-shirt of all time and it's not even close! You shall be mine!!
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We haven’t heard yet how Daniel Bryan’s surgery has changed things creatively, besides pushing some things back a few weeks, but it’s no secret now that WWE expects him back in the ring before June is over.

We now know some plans for SummerSlam that WWE was considering before Bryan’s surgery took place but still after the injury happened. It’s important to note that these were being considered before the surgery. We haven’t heard any updates yet.

* Bray Wyatt vs. Daniel Bryan for the WWE World Heavyweight Title. This one could be interesting if they go through with it because another source said of Wyatt, “I’d be very surprised if he wasn’t a full-on babyface in the next few months.”

* Triple H vs. Roman Reigns. This is likely happening, if they can draw the program out that long, because Reigns is the guy Triple H wants for his next big singles match.

* Brock Lesnar vs. Cesaro. This is a feud that WWE wants to do at some point because of the Paul Heyman dynamic.

It’s also important to note that these were preliminary ideas discussed. We noted before this week that a feud between Sheamus and John Cena had been discussed and SummerSlam was a possibility.


Source: Dailywrestlingnews
 
I don't want to see Cena vs. Sheamus for the millionth time.
 
Bryan vs Bray for the title though....Could be awesome considering the quality of their last match.
 
Track listing for the upcoming Paul Heyman dvd, courtesy of wrestlingdvdnews.com:

DISC ONE

Documentary

Survivor
Photographer
Promoter
Manager
Memphis
AWA
WCW
ECW
Team Mentality
Rebels
Commentator
Writer
OVW
New ECW
Businessman
Father
Return to WWE
Embracing the Moment


DISC TWO

Paul E. is always in contact
AWA Championship Wrestling • August 1987

Pink Suspenders
AWA Superstars • August 1987

I’ll Be Johnny Carson
AWA Championship Wrestling • August 1987

Danger Zone with Ted E. Bear
AWA Championship Wrestling • September 1987

You want to be a Cartoon?
AWA All Star Wrestling • September 1987

If Excitement Had a Name
AWA Superstars • September 1987

More Publicity
AWA Championship Wrestling • September 1987

Adrian Adonis
AWA All Star Wrestling • October 1987

The Definition of Pro Wrestling
AWA Superstars • November 1987

The Sequel Jim Cornette
NWA Pro Wrestling • October 1988

Nobody Wanted Paul E.
World Championship Wrestling • November 1988

Louisville Slugger
NWA Pro Wrestling • December 1988

The Year of Paul E. Dangerously
World Championship Wrestling • January 1989

Danger Zone with Ric Flair
World Championship Wrestling • March 1989

I’m So Handsome
NWA Main Event • March 1989

I Don’t Have Wrestlers I Have Animals
World Wide Wrestling • March 1989

Ding Dong Who is it?
NWA Main Event • July 1989

The Era of the Dangerous Alliance
World Championship Wrestling • September 1989

Paul Heyman WWE DVD Match Listing, Full ContentSting’s Doll
Power Hour • May 1991

Save Us from Captain Oklahoma
World Championship Wrestling • November 1991

The Dangerous Alliance
World Championship Wrestling • November 1991

The Paul E. Awards
World Wide Wrestling • February 1992

The Ultimatum is at Hand
Pro Wrestling • April 1992

A New Dangerous Alliance
ECW Hardcore TV • October 1993

WCW Wants Sabu
ECW Hardcore TV • June 1994

Wrestler and Violence
ECW Hardcore TV • July 1994

Winds of Change
ECW Hardcore TV • November 1994

Cash Rules Everything
ECW Hardcore TV • December 1994

Best Damn Wrestling You’ve Ever Seen
ECW Hardcore TV • January 1995

There Ain’t No Organization Like ECW
ECW • February 1996

ECW Comes to Pay-Per-View
ECW • February 1997

We Cleared Cablevision!
ECW • March 1998

The Card Has Changed
ECW Guilty As Charged • January 1999

The War Has Just Begun
ECW on TNN • June 2000



DISC THREE

Paul Heyman Hates Mr. McMahon’s Stinkin’ Guts
SmackDown • November 15, 2001

Introducing: “The Next Big Thing”
RAW • April 8, 2002

Paul Heyman, Mr. McMahon & Eric Bischoff All Share One Ring
RAW • May 23, 2005

Paul Heyman Thanks the ECW Faithful
ECW One Night Stand • 12 June 2005

The Resurrection of ECW
ECW One Night Stand • June 11, 2006

From the Bingo Hall to the Garden
ECW • September 12, 2006

Mr. McMahon Gives Paul Heyman a Performance Review
RAW • January 28, 2013

Paul Heyman Gives CM Punk His Resignation
RAW • February 11, 2013

It’s Clobbering Time for CM Punk
RAW • July 15, 2013

Volcano
RAW • October 21, 2013

Paul Heyman Drops a Pipe Bomb
RAW • March 3, 2014

The Original Midnight Express vs. The New Midnight Express
Main Event • January 21, 1989

Hardy Boyz vs. Brock Lesnar & Paul Heyman
Judgment Day • May 19, 2002

No Disqualification Handicap Elimination Match
CM Punk vs. Curtis Axel & Paul Heyman
Night of Champions • September 15, 2013


http://www.wrestlingdvdnews.com/full-content-wwe-paul-heyman-dvd/66746/
 
PWInsider is reporting that WWE is working on a documentary for another Randy Savage dvd. Precursor to a Hall Of Fame induction?
 
If that's true, it's about ****ing time.

Just speculating. Obviously, the first dvd didn't lead to a Hall of Fame induction, but it was just matches...didn't really require any outside input. If they are taking the time to produce a full documentary, I assume that they will have the cooperation of the Poffo family. Perhaps the family has given their ok for Randy to be inducted.
 
We haven’t heard yet how Daniel Bryan’s surgery has changed things creatively, besides pushing some things back a few weeks, but it’s no secret now that WWE expects him back in the ring before June is over.

We now know some plans for SummerSlam that WWE was considering before Bryan’s surgery took place but still after the injury happened. It’s important to note that these were being considered before the surgery. We haven’t heard any updates yet.

* Bray Wyatt vs. Daniel Bryan for the WWE World Heavyweight Title. This one could be interesting if they go through with it because another source said of Wyatt, “I’d be very surprised if he wasn’t a full-on babyface in the next few months.”

* Triple H vs. Roman Reigns. This is likely happening, if they can draw the program out that long, because Reigns is the guy Triple H wants for his next big singles match.

* Brock Lesnar vs. Cesaro. This is a feud that WWE wants to do at some point because of the Paul Heyman dynamic.

It’s also important to note that these were preliminary ideas discussed. We noted before this week that a feud between Sheamus and John Cena had been discussed and SummerSlam was a possibility.


Source: Dailywrestlingnews

I'd like to see Bryan and Bray again. Both had some good matches. Don't know about Bray coming off as a baby face in a match against Bryan.

Lesnar and Cesaro would be interesting. Less focus on Paul for a while. Cesaro needs his character room to breathe.

As much as I dislike Sheamus and Cena, I wouldn't mind seeing a feud - as long as Sheamus is not built a whiny heel.
 
PWInsider is reporting that WWE is working on a documentary for another Randy Savage dvd. Precursor to a Hall Of Fame induction?

Rumor has always been he was never getting in because of a supposed underage affair with Stephanie McMahon. But that could be BS.
 
It's dawned on me that Bad Luck Fale MIGHT main event the next NJPW iPPV....
 
We haven’t heard yet how Daniel Bryan’s surgery has changed things creatively, besides pushing some things back a few weeks, but it’s no secret now that WWE expects him back in the ring before June is over.

We now know some plans for SummerSlam that WWE was considering before Bryan’s surgery took place but still after the injury happened. It’s important to note that these were being considered before the surgery. We haven’t heard any updates yet.

* Bray Wyatt vs. Daniel Bryan for the WWE World Heavyweight Title. This one could be interesting if they go through with it because another source said of Wyatt, “I’d be very surprised if he wasn’t a full-on babyface in the next few months.”

* Triple H vs. Roman Reigns. This is likely happening, if they can draw the program out that long, because Reigns is the guy Triple H wants for his next big singles match.

* Brock Lesnar vs. Cesaro. This is a feud that WWE wants to do at some point because of the Paul Heyman dynamic.

It’s also important to note that these were preliminary ideas discussed. We noted before this week that a feud between Sheamus and John Cena had been discussed and SummerSlam was a possibility.


Source: Dailywrestlingnews

Bray/Bryan and Lesnar/Cesaro are two solid bouts that are Summerslam caliber. Reigns/Triple H...Reigns isn't ready, IMO.
 
Rumor has always been he was never getting in because of a supposed underage affair with Stephanie McMahon. But that could be BS.

Yeah, I've heard that rumor for years...never bought it.

The Tampa Tribune did an article on why Savage hasn't been inducted, but they only got Lanny's side, not WWE's. Still, this sounds much more feasible to me than the Savage/underage Stephanie rumor.

By Paul Guzzo | Tribune Staff
Published: March 31, 2014 | Updated: April 1, 2014 at 07:28 AM
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TAMPA — Tension in the ring, real or scripted, fuels the world of pro wrestling.

The story of the late Randy Savage, though, shows that tension outside the ring can hang just as thick.

Seven new legends including Savage contemporaries Jake “The Snake” Roberts and The Ultimate Warrior will join more than 100 others enshrined already in World Wrestling Entertainment's Hall of Fame during this year's induction Saturday in New Orleans.

Hulk Hogan is already there, as is Ric Flair, Andre The Giant and “Rowdy” Roddy Piper.

Not Savage, though. And he won't be this year, either.

The longtime Tampa Bay resident whose real name was Randy Poffo and who wrestled as “Macho Man” remains conspicuous in his absence. Few would argue his place in the wrestling pantheon, with his baritone raspy voice, muscles too big to believe, Technicolor outfits and six world titles in a 27-year career.

Hocking Slim Jim snack sticks as he did only pushed him further into the mainstream of pop culture.

Savage's 59-year-old brother, Lanny Poffo, a Tampa Bay resident and veteran of WWE wars, said he knows why his brother has been left out year after year — bad blood between Savage and legendary WWE CEO Vince McMahon.

“I cannot prove a thing,” Poffo said. “You can take my word for it or not.”

The Tampa Tribune sent WWE a detailed account of Poffo's claims. In an email, WWE said it would have no comment.

This bitter feud between Savage and McMahon, Poffo said, began in 1987, just two years into Savage's WWE career. That year, the promotion held an “old timers” wrestling event.

Savage's father, Angelo Poffo, was a pro wrestler, as well. He won a few titles for small promoters during his career, but never made waves on the national scene. Savage asked McMahon if his father could participate in the old timer's spectacle so he could finally receive his big moment. According to Poffo, the answer was no.

“Randy didn't ever forgot that,” he said. “My father deserved to be in that match.”

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Described by his peers as a professional, Savage never allowed personal feelings to affect his business sense. He performed up to his abilities in the WWE for another nine years, always perched atop the promotion's hierarchy.

“The '80s is often called the decade of Hulk Hogan because he was the biggest star,” said Christopher Daniels, who wrestles for the Total Nonstop Action promotion. “But Randy stood side-by-side with Hogan. He was just as popular.”

When the 1980s turned into the 1990s, McMahon thought Savage's best years were behind him. He took him out of the ring and placed him behind a microphone as a color commentator. Savage was offended.

“He thought he still had a lot of good years in the ring left in him,” Poffo said.

At the age of 42, he signed with the WWE's stiffest competition at the time — World Championship Wrestling.

WWE responded to the defection by airing comedy skits on their television programs based on a character called “The Nacho Man,” depicting the popular wrestler as a bumbling old man.

Savage was bothered by the skits, Poffo said, but not too offended until he saw one that also included caricatures of Larry King and Hulk Hogan insinuating that Savage's ex-wife — Elizabeth Ann Hulette, known in the world of professional wrestling as “Miss Elizabeth” — had fooled around with Hogan.

Poffo said he doesn't know why the WWE reacted this way. Perhaps because Savage was the competition now.

Savage spent six years with WCW, remaining one of the top stars in the industry. He retired in 2000.

“Mean” Gene Okerlund, inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2006 after a long career as a WWE and WCW announcer, credits Savage as one of the few at the time who could combine character flair and in-ring athleticism.

“He helped usher in this era of wrestling we know call sports entertainment; he was an innovator,” Okerlund said. “Randy absolutely deserves to be in the hall and should have been an early inductee.”

Austin Aries, a Clearwater resident who wrestles for Total Nonstop Action, said Savage is the wrestler many young stars try to imitate.

“He had that aura about him that we all want,” Aries said. “He was a great athlete and had a tremendous personality.”

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In Tampa Bay, Savage was beloved. He visited sick children at hospitals. He gave to charities. Every year he read “Twas the Night Before Christmas” at Tampa Bay schools.

But like his wrestling persona, he had an intense side.

Savage, his brother said, never forgave the WWE for its tasteless skit. Following his retirement, he retorted by with an online video making his own insinuations about Vince McMahon's daughter.

“I'm sure the video angered McMahon,” Poffo said.

For living inductees the WWE Hall of Fame ceremony often provides one last standing ovation from their fans. For those who have died, survivors are reminded what they meant to so many.

Unlike other halls of fame, though, this one has no building yet. And there is no secret balloting among a panel of experts. McMahon has the final say.

McMahon, Poffo said, eventually bent, calling his brother with an offer to induct him in 2010. Savage said he would only accept if his father and brother were inducted alongside him. The WWE declined.

“He wanted the Poffo family to go in,” Poffo said. “He knew it would mean a lot to my dad.”

Shortly after the rejection, Savage's father passed away. Poffo said the WWE never called to offer condolences.

“It was about respect to our family. Randy was furious,” said Poffo. “He told me if anything ever happened to him, he should not be put into the Hall of Fame unless it was as the Poffo family.”

A year later, Savage died at 58 of a severe form of irregular heartbeat while he was driving his car. His vehicle struck a tree. Investigators said he was dead before impact.

WWE produced a touching video tribute, but Poffo said called it public relations to benefit the organization.

“They again never personally offered condolences to my family,” he said. “My mother was hurt. They know our number and address.”

Poffo said that in 2012 the WWE called him to ask about posthumously inducting Savage into the Hall of Fame.

“They again did not say they were sorry for my father or brother's passing, even though they had the chance” he said. “I told them that I would honor my brother's wishes and only say yes if the entire Poffo family was inducted.”

Poffo said he has softened his stance. He said he is offering an olive branch.

This is no longer about his brother, his father or himself.

“This is for the fans,” he said. “They want to honor Randy and see him get his respect. So if the WWE wants Randy in the Hall of Fame but not my father or me, they should do it.”

Just don't expect Poffo to attend.

“Unless they call my mother and offer their condolences, I will not be there.”

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