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[Primal Slayer]

I dont see anything wrong with her saying she doesnt support releasing films on HBOMax first as an ongoing plan. She's not here for it long term, doesnt say anything about the here and now.

 

[Filmfreak]

She can go whereever she wants but right now she's supposed to promote ww84 movie, she's undermining her own film.

Why would average Joe care to see this movie if the director herself sounds like she's done with this franchise ?

Maybe it's something the studio executives should have thought about first. They treat their talent like garbage and expect them to play ball and promote their platform? She's right to call them out, like every other of their associates did.

 

[Prison Mike]

She did get her $10 million bonus though. She should at least play ball for the month that WW84 is on there...after that then she can rip into them.

 

[Primal Slayer]

She did get her $10 million bonus though. She should at least play ball for the month that WW84 is on there...after that then she can rip into them.

She did play ball. She stated how excited she was for WW to come to the platform.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

She did get her $10 million bonus though. She should at least play ball for the month that WW84 is on there...after that then she can rip into them.

The 10m is for bonuses that won't be achieved do to Warner's doing. From a company that tried to low ball her in the first place because she is woman. This is playing ball on her part imo.

I do not think people comprehend how much Warner might have screwed up here. They might triple their subs, quadruple. That won't matter if everyone in the industry is upset with them. Right now Warner feels like that Youtuber who decided to start covering a socially sensitive topic to get more eyeballs to their channel, only to find out that the short term views and sub bump, wasn't worth them being labelled a bigot in the long run.

 

[Filmfreak]

Wonder Woman was the first movie announced to play both in cinemas and Warner's platform simultaneously. Jenkins was given the heads up about it and it probably seemed like a temporary thing at the time. Now they announced their whole 2021 slate without consulting any of the people that actually made those movies. Things changed dramatically the last couple of weeks, hence why I think she reacts differently. Also Dinsey hired her now so she doesn't give a damn.

 

[kguillou]

I think WB was just so attracted to the sexy sounding “ALL OUR NEW MOVIES WILL BE ON MAX” declaration and headline as opposed to something like “OUR FIRST QUARTER MOVIES WILL BE ON MAX AFTER THAT...IDK.” I think they felt that kind of “both feet in the water” approach would lure in subscribers. But they definitely did not anticipate this kind of a pushback I think. They knew people would be mad but I dont think they foresaw this.

I wouldnt wanna be Emmerich right now, he’s probably been neck deep in irate phone calls and meetings and probably sweating bullets.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

This move probably saved Emmerich's job. AT&T has been on their ass for underperforming so much recently and WB's 2021 looked like a worse version of 2019

People think Sarnoff and co are blowing smoke for saying this is only temporary but I buy it. 2022 has Batman, Aquaman, Flash/Keaton and other big movies. You better make sure this experiment works or not before doing anything rash

 

[samsnee]

I genuinely think Max has the best library out there for older movies than Netflix or Disney. They just need to market it better.

 

[kguillou]

Agreed. Max actually kinda is the best streaming app out there. Their content is unmatched. Its got something for everyone and their movie library from classic to contemporary is just incredible. They have the edge on Disney + in that way, but they need to do a better job making people aware of it.

 

[Iceman]

I just ditched cable so I’ll get HBO Max whenever they release in the UK.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah, I agree. Despite the poor rollout, they have a great selection. HBO, TCM and their classic WB films make it all worth it. Goddamn, I can watch old Hitchcock movies. I watched M for the first time. Where the hell else am I gonna be able to do that? The Peacock?

It really is a shame the other streamers don't invest in older movies. I miss Filmstruck.

 

[samsnee]

Agreed. Max actually kinda is the best streaming app out there. Their content is unmatched. Its got something for everyone and their movie library from classic to contemporary is just incredible. They have the edge on Disney + in that way, but they need to do a better job making people aware of it.

Disney has such great content after the Fox deal. I don’t understand why they don’t have a section for older people so they can access. It’s too Disney-fied for my tastes.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

She did get her $10 million bonus though. She should at least play ball for the month that WW84 is on there...after that then she can rip into them.

Eh, **** 'em. Jenkins getting as much money as she can from them and still being honest is perfectly fine by me. I respect that a lot more than playing PR ball.

 

[kguillou]

Disney has such great content after the Fox deal. I don’t understand why they don’t have a section for older people so they can access. It’s too Disney-fied for my tastes.

It's part of the Disney image. And hey you know what, its working for 'em. Their younger skewing content scored them over 80 million subscribers in one year despite having no new content besides the Mandalorian and Hamilton.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah, I agree. Despite the poor rollout, they have a great selection. HBO, TCM and their classic WB films make it all worth it. Goddamn, I can watch old Hitchcock movies. I watched M for the first time. Where the hell else am I gonna be able to do that? The Peacock?

Peacock actually does have some old Hitchcock movies, lol.

But yeah I agree Max has the best content overall. And it will be even better once they get around to adding their old DC shows they just took off of DC Universe while I was still watching them.

Glad you finally got to see M, one of my all-time faves.

 

[Prison Mike]

Yeah Peacock actually has a lot of the Hitchcock movies. They have 14 movies and 2 series i think

 

[Doctor Jones]

Peacock actually does have some old Hitchcock movies, lol.

But yeah I agree Max has the best content overall. And it will be even better once they get around to adding their old DC shows they just took off of DC Universe while I was still watching them.

Glad you finally got to see M, one of my all-time faves.

I imagined it was too much of an assumption, I just like making fun of the name.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I genuinely think Max has the best library out there for older movies than Netflix or Disney. They just need to market it better.

I am inclined to agree. Even with the app that tries to destroy my hearing every time I click on something. But while the marketing and general availability has been an issue, I think their biggest issue is most people don't actually buy streaming services for that. It's all about the new hotness. I think the exception might be more "family" based offerings. Something parents are happy to have so their kids can just watch and watch. Hence Disney's advantage.

Also I think we are finding out exactly how much cache certain brand names have. Disney, like Netflix seems to just genuinely sell better then as a brand then anything anyone else has to offer, regardless of content. I am so curious how well Disney+ kicks off once they have something more then Mando and Hamilton. The Marvel shows should do some real business, along with the addition of more Star Wars. Warner could have that, but they seem to fumble in this regard. Even with this roll out of Wonder Woman, a lot of negative press.

Disney has such great content after the Fox deal. I don’t understand why they don’t have a section for older people so they can access. It’s too Disney-fied for my tastes.

IMO it's the issue of Hulu, mixed with the fact that a big selling point of Disney+ is the idea that it is "safe" for your little ones. The younger folk who are going to have Disney+ do it for the new stuff. The older set, a lot of them have kids. What Disney+ is doing is seemingly working very well.

Disney Plus Hits 86.8 Million Subscribers, Sets Price Hikes for 2021 - Variety

Though I am definitely with those that want the other stuff available. I get why even password protected and such they worry about the potential image issue. On the plus side, they seem to be starting to roll out something similar overseas, where there is no Hulu.

 

[Sithborg]

I think Disney is just going to be happy with their three streaming services bundle.

And I really do like HBO Max. I just wish the Criterion stuff had their own tab.

 

[kguillou]

Also, I think Disney + greatly benefited from the pandemic. We’ve been through one of the grimmest years collectively in a long time and when people are generally feeling down or depressed they dont turn to David Fincher or Ridley Scott movies...they turn to light hearted escapism aka Marvel, Star Wars, Disney and Pixar. I think Disney + offered exactly the kind of content quarantined families would wanna watch this year to escape from our messed up reality.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Steven Soderbergh Defends Warner Bros. for HBO Max Move

Soderbergh is the only outspoken director who's not acting like a total diva right now. He thinks theaters will rebound in 2022. Shows he actually believes in the theatrical experience unlike Nolan, Villenevue and Jenkins who think that the moment people are given options theaters will die.

 

[kguillou]

Speaking to VF, Soderbergh acknowledged there were some issues with how the HBO Max news was communicated. “But remember this: As soon as you call up the first representative of one of the actors or filmmakers to say, ‘Hey, we’re thinking about X,’ it’s all over town,” he said. “They were in this weird situation where they wanted to do this thing. But they knew if they called one person to tell them they were even thinking about it, cat’s out of the bag, and the narrative’s out of your control. It was a really unfortunate situation. I know from experience, people can wrap their minds around change. Surprises, they don’t like that so much. This was obviously a big surprise for a lot of people. That’s the short answer.”

Soderbergh’s not wrong, valid point here.

 

[Filmfreak]

Well, Soderbergh wasn't screwed over like the rest of the people who have spoken out, so there's that. Quite the opposite, in fact. HBO MAX and Netflix have both given him opportunities that he couldn't have as of lately in cinematic releases. He almost stopped making movies back in 2013 and came back because of streaming, so of course he'd feel like that. I respect his opinion, and while he's not completely wrong, he's not right either.

Yes, it makes business sense on the short-term that way, but completely disregarding the people who made the movies in the first place creates a massive void in confidence for years to come. WB messed up big time and they don't even know it yet. The sad thing is they probably won't even realise it when the effects start showing.

 

[MadVillainy]

I genuinely think Max has the best library out there for older movies than Netflix or Disney. They just need to market it better.

Yeah I agree and I've been saying that since jump. Unless you're only looking for DC content there's a bunch to enjoy on HBO Max. The HBO content alone is top class.

I remember someone came in here and said: "The only thing I've watched on Max is the GL extended cut, which all you need to know about their offerings."
Man if you look through all of HBO Max and the only thing that interests you is GL, then that's on you boo boo. Not the service