NX - Nintendo's Next Generation Hardware Concept

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[XtremelyBaneful]

I apologize if a thread like this was already made. It also fits in the misc section but the misc section itself is too broad for my taste, at least for this thread.

Anyways yeah, AMD announced they have a new contract with a customer, but we don't know with who. All we do know is that it will be for a game console.

 

[Venom'sDad]

It would be awesome if it *was* a smartphone..

Agree

 

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah, it's not going to be a smartphone. Lol.

 

[Iceman]

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Most mobile games really aren't very good to me. There's a few standouts here and there, but nothing to the level of a well-made traditional handheld game.

Yeah I like some mobile games but could easily live without them. For me smartphones have replaced the urge for handhelds just as they give plenty to do (like posting here!) aside from gaming and I don't like carrying multiple devices. I have only today bought my first tablet actually. Don't know if the games are any better on a 1 foot screen or not, but still games will be the secondary function on it for me.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Handheld gaming has it's place for me, but I find myself doing it less and less. My 3DS hasn't been touched in ages. I'm usually at home and if I want to play a game at home I'm gonna turn to my PS4 or blow the thick layers of dust off my Wii U and give that a go over playing on a handheld. I don't see Nintendo giving up on the handheld market any time soon though. The 3DS still has a lot of life in it.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Handheld gaming is still, by far, the preferred type of gaming in Japan, too, so Nintendo is going to try and hold on to that for a long time. Now they basically have a monopoly on it since I highly doubt Sony will release another handheld, so we'll see what happens.

I probably prefer console gaming, but I like handheld gaming as well. I'll never understand the extreme bias that has developed against handheld gaming in the west.

 

[Matt Mortem]

It could be that handhelds are marketed pretty heavily towards children in the west. I'm not sure if it's that way in Japan and Europe, but the Nintendo handhelds seem geared towards children here in the States.

 

[Havok83]

thats pretty much Nintendo in general though

 

[Tron Bonne]

You may be right. America is a much less "on the move" nation than most others, too, since we lack a lot of public transportation outside large cities and the like, unlike Japan and most of Europe. It's still weird to me, but it is what it is.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Yeah that public transportation isn't as prevalent in the states could also be a factor. I really think Nintendo would do better if they started focusing on an older audience. Kids are on iphones and tablets now. They aren't playing handhelds. And on the console end of things I don't see kids buying up Nintendo stuff. You see them on PS4 and Xbone playing CoD and GTA. Nintendo's core audience are people in their 20's and 30's. They should adjust accordingly.

 

[Iceman]

I'm not interested in cutting edge gaming on the move, more casual (but still addictive) simpler stuff.

 

[Iceman]

Yeah that public transportation isn't as prevalent in the states could also be a factor. I really think Nintendo would do better if they started focusing on an older audience. Kids are on iphones and tablets now. They aren't playing handhelds. And on the console end of things I don't see kids buying up Nintendo stuff. You see them on PS4 and Xbone playing CoD and GTA. Nintendo's core audience are people in their 20's and 30's. They should adjust accordingly.

In a family I could see every kid being given a smartphone but I doubt a parent would want to shell out on a handheld for all of them. The other key for me would be how well linked the handheld was to my console of choice.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah that public transportation isn't as prevalent in the states could also be a factor. I really think Nintendo would do better if they started focusing on an older audience. Kids are on iphones and tablets now. They aren't playing handhelds. And on the console end of things I don't see kids buying up Nintendo stuff. You see them on PS4 and Xbone playing CoD and GTA. Nintendo's core audience are people in their 20's and 30's. They should adjust accordingly.

Well, I don't know, a lot of people think this, but I don't know if all of the 60 million 3DS sales were just to that audience and to no kids whatsoever, I know Pokemon is still a mainstay for younger audiences even if it encompasses a lot of older people now.

Nintendo's brand will always veer slightly on the young side, no matter what they do. Their characters and games are just too all ages friendly, and a total rebranding could be a huge disaster if it doesn't work (and rebranding all ages character to gritty, hardcore versions have rarely worked out well and can actively poison a brand for the future). They do probably need to invest more in mature content than they do, though. Things like Xenoblade, FExSMT and Devil's Third are good steps. If anything, they need to look a lot more to a western focus for those types of games than they do.

 

[Havok83]

Yeah that public transportation isn't as prevalent in the states could also be a factor. I really think Nintendo would do better if they started focusing on an older audience. Kids are on iphones and tablets now. They aren't playing handhelds. And on the console end of things I don't see kids buying up Nintendo stuff. You see them on PS4 and Xbone playing CoD and GTA. Nintendo's core audience are people in their 20's and 30's. They should adjust accordingly.

I think adults are even less likely to care than kids for the same reasons. I dont know what Nintendo can do bc I dont think they are doing anything wrong. Whatever handheld they release next will sell less than the 3DS, which sold less than the DS. Its just the changing market trends and I dont see a new resurgence in handheld gaming

 

[jokesonm3]

lol if the NX is a smartphone.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Well, I don't know, a lot of people think this, but I don't know if all of the 60 million 3DS sales were just to that audience and to no kids whatsoever, I know Pokemon is still a mainstay for younger audiences even if it encompasses a lot of older people now.

Nintendo's brand will always veer slightly on the young side, no matter what they do. Their characters and games are just too all ages friendly, and a total rebranding could be a huge disaster if it doesn't work (and rebranding all ages character to gritty, hardcore versions have rarely worked out well and can actively poison a brand for the future). They do probably need to invest more in mature content than they do, though. Things like Xenoblade, FExSMT and Devil's Third are good steps. If anything, they need to look a lot more to a western focus for those types of games than they do.

I may have misspoke, but I don't mean they need to make darker, grittier, more mature titles. I just mean maybe they should acknowledge their aging audience. Yes, Pokemon and Mario still do very well with young audiences, but I'd still contend that the larger number of Nintendo fans are mid to late 20's. Perfect example of what I'm talking about is the original 3DS XL. That thing, with it's bright primary colored plastic, looked like a Leap Frog kids device. It didn't look like something that was meant for anyone over the age of 10. Nintendo wants the kids really, really bad and I get that, but a greater acknowledgment of older fans would be nice.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I think adults are even less likely to care than kids for the same reasons. I dont know what Nintendo can do bc I dont think they are doing anything wrong. Whatever handheld they release next will sell less than the 3DS, which sold less than the DS. Its just the changing market trends and I dont see a new resurgence in handheld gaming

They're already doing it by extending into mobile, and they have plans to extend their IPs into other mediums. Nintendo is actually doing a good amount to retain that audience even if a lot of that stuff isn't fully in motion yet. I also think their next hardware will be very casual-friendly.

Nintendo actually did a lot wrong with the Wii U and 3DS, so they weren't totally doing everything right by any means.

I may have misspoke, but I don't mean they need to make darker, grittier, more mature titles. I just mean maybe they should acknowledge their aging audience. Yes, Pokemon and Mario still do very well with young audiences, but I'd still contend that the larger number of Nintendo fans are mid to late 20's. Perfect example of what I'm talking about is the original 3DS XL. That thing, with it's bright primary colored plastic, looked like a Leap Frog kids device. It didn't look like something that was meant for anyone over the age of 10. Nintendo wants the kids really, really bad and I get that, but a greater acknowledgment of older fans would be nice.

I thought you were talking software, but you seem to be talking about hardware. I really have no idea what it is that you mean now. What exactly do you have in mind? I really hope you're not just talking about power or whatever, because in that case...ah, *sigh*.

I don't know, while the 3DS sold less than the DS, it still sold tremendously well all things considered (and one has to take into account the cosmic success of the DS. The odds of Nintendo, or anyone, having that type of success with a dedicated gaming machine again is slim to none), so I really don't know if they could've done a lot more to get more success. As Havok said, the market really changed. The fact that the 3DS did as well as it did is really a testament to how well Nintendo managed since Sony got outright slaughtered in the market.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I thought you were talking software, but you seem to be talking about hardware. I really have no idea what it is that you mean now. What exactly do you have in mind? I really hope you're not just talking about power or whatever, because in that case...ah, *sigh*.

I don't know, while the 3DS sold less than the DS, it still sold tremendously well all things considered (and one has to take into account the cosmic success of the DS. The odds of Nintendo, or anyone, having that type of success with a dedicated gaming machine again is slim to none), so I really don't know if they could've done a lot more to get more success. As Havok said, the market really changed. The fact that the 3DS did as well as it did is really a testament to how well Nintendo managed since Sony got outright slaughtered in the market.

I'm horribly at articulating a point. I'm talking about marketing mostly. Yeah, some of the designs are a little kiddy, but by and large not a problem. The handhelds seemed to be marketed almost exclusively to kids which goes back to my original point about the stigma regarding playing handheld gaming consoles for adults in the US.

 

[zenith16]

well they have been making some more mature games but they always do it as a trial run of sort's. there were games like bayonetta 2 and before that had the best version of deus ex human revolutions with the directors cut and there was that better version of ninja Guiden.

I'm leaving out Devils third cause sadly a failure. but before that there was red steal and few others pre wii u

as to marketing I do agree they should market Eqaully to the more mature gamer as much as kids but some when ever this is said some how what really being said get lost in the mix. they shouldn't ever stop making and marketing to kid's and familys but there's nothing wrong with broadening horizons more. and more people should be more accepting when Nintendo does try to market to the mature crowd instead weirdly thinking they don't do mature games when they do it those people go into hiding when it's out in alot of peoples faces.

I'd like them to put out an equal amount of games for the mature player as much as for the family oriented and kid aimed . and I like them, do what sony is doing they have slowly being doing like when they bought monolith soft and made Xeno blade games . but they need more studio house's under their belt so they can created broader games and nurture those studio. I know some will try to turn this into twisted argument. but that's what they should do .

right now they have some things mostly out sourced and they sorta have sega which has most of the studio house's . but they need to make some of their own. cause i know that by me just mention sega it's be come A "I don't want them to buy sega argument. " Which isn't fully what I said. while it would be a smart move for them to do.


I think they should do that on their own with other newer up and coming studio's since that is the weird case with some from the gamer side of thing's . that make seem that they shouldn't be allowed to at times .
they need to start doing so . it's how movies are it's now some other medium's have doing well when they do so as well .

 

[Tron Bonne]

I'm horribly at articulating a point. I'm talking about marketing mostly. Yeah, some of the designs are a little kiddy, but by and large not a problem. The handhelds seemed to be marketed almost exclusively to kids which goes back to my original point about the stigma regarding playing handheld gaming consoles for adults in the US.

Lol, maybe so. Like, I get what you're saying. The 3DS does have a bit of a cheap look to it (though comparing it to a Leap Frog is a bit hyperbolic, but I get the point). It's never bothered me much, but I get what you're saying. I guess, more than anything, I'm not sure what you want as an alternative. Do you only associate cheap-looking with kiddie? What would you do to market it to a more adult audience? Tablet-esque? Vita-like? Do you think that marketing would've helped it push past 60 million?

 

[Matt Mortem]

I can't honestly say what I'd want as the alternative. I know that the designs of the New 3DSXL are definitely in the right direction. The gun metal black of the one I have is really slick.

 

[zenith16]

if true this is a bigggggg surprise . It's a rumor for now though. I'm sure we'll get answer from the peep's from nintendo about this.

NX
Rumor: Nintendo NX mass production postponed to early 2017 to add VR functionality
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Nintendo's new console is "a brand-new concept."

Nintendo’s new console, code-named NX, will launch worldwide in March 2017, the company announced.




“For our dedicated video game platform business, Nintendo is currently developing a gaming platform codenamed ‘NX’ with a brand-new concept,” reads the release. “NX will be launched in March 2017 globally.”




NX’s estimated hardware and software sales units are reflected in Nintendo’s financial forecast ending March 31, 2017, but Nintendo are not disclosing the specific information “as it is provisional.”




NX will not make an appearance at E3 in Los Angeles in June, and will be unveiled later this year. The new The Legend of Zelda, which is in development for NX as well as Wii U and due out in 2017, will be the focus of Nintendo’s presence at E3. The Wii U version will be the only playable game Nintendo presents at the show, “in order to provide attendees a complete immersion.”




Nintendo did not share further information.






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source: Gematsu

 

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah, I don't know, that rumor seems way too busy and out there to be try. This basically paints it as being a hybrid of traditional gaming, mobile and VR. I can't even imagine how something like that would be designed, much less work. It really just doesn't make a lot of sense to me, honestly.

 

[Iceman]

And that would mean it releasing behind the rumoured Neo date and in the same year as Scorpio (again rumoured). Is this VR stuff really that big/good that everyone is making such big moves to make sure they incorporate it? Even if VR's great I still don't know if I can be bothered with it right now lol.