Obligatory Mythos: Ghost Rider thread

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Just found this info here; http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=5983

Paolo Rivera's next project for Marvel will be "X-Men Mythos," which will feature fully painted artwork by Rivera. The writing chores will be taken up by Paul Jenkins. The "X-Men Mythos" series will be followed by a "Hulk Mythos" series and a "Ghost Rider Mythos" series.

Hmm, this sounds very interesting and I want to know more about it... now!
 
Very cool!
very curious as to what this will be too.
just hope they do a good job on it...
 
Whenever I read the title of these threads I think woohoo only to discover it isn't actually happening.:(
 
I'm not exactly sure what else your referrin' to Orb but here's hopin' they actually do it as it sounds pretty awesome...

The ONLY thing I ask is that they don't recreate the mythos or anything and keep what was developed in the 90's. If they leave out the Dan Ketch stuff and the history that was developed during his reign, I'll be one pissed off Ghost Rider fan.
 
GR Mythos series? Sounds really interesting.
Hopefully Rivera will paint all the Mythos series, not just X-Men.
 
FlameHead said:
I'm not exactly sure what else your referrin' to Orb
Well it's like i start a thread saying
EVA MENDEZ NUDE PICTURE!!
Then post.
Gee I wish I had one.:(
 
Well, this is happening.... just not now. I try to post all news I find to start some sort of conversation and this is pretty cool news, if you ask me. I'm not sure what it's all about but it's neat to speculate.
 
If there's a chance that Rivera is going to paint a GR-series, than it's worth all the speculations in the world
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Think of the Doctor Doom "Masks"-story in Marvel Double Shots #2...and try to imagine that style for GR...WOW!
 
There's no other information to be found other than that so your guess is as good as mine. I guess we'll know more when the X-Men one comes out. We'll be able to judge what the Ghost Rider one will be from that.
 
Thought I'd give this a go. You know the routine by now. Have at it.

I still need to read mine, but I was able to pick up 2 issues. Apparently is was nearly sold out by 1 PM, and when I left there was 1 issue left.

The art looks amazing, now to see how the story is.
 
I was fairly unimpressed by it, mainly due to the fact that it was completely unnecessary. No new information presented, and the old information detailed was wrong in a whole lot of places. It's an attempt to "modernize" Blaze's origin, but there wasn't enough changed to it to warrant this special other than a few date drops now and then and a blurring of the established facts (not to mention getting at least one character's name wrong).

A full review of it will be going up on Vengeance Unbound either tomorrow night or the next, so details then. The artwork WAS good, though, wasn't it?
 
i did notice in one of the preview pages that Blaze was riding a dirt bike on the highway?! that alone should have given the artist 20 lashes for downgrading Blazes ride :cmad:
 
I thought the MYTHOS series weren't canon - instead they were "mythical" retellings of the origins of heroes, incorporating elements from various versions (comics, cartoons, movies, etc).

So, the changes made were a little odd, but taking that into account, they work okay as non-canon version.
 
escapeclause, I thought the same thing. I'm starting to get tired of all the "celebrity look-alike" characters in Marvel's books of late: Tommy Lee Jones as the Green Goblin in Thunderbolts, Sawyer from Lost as Starbrand in Newuniversal, and probably many more I'm forgetting. It's just really starting to annoy me on many levels, lol.
 
Yeah he was totally John Tesh.:confused:

Just like with the other Mythos, it really had no point. Art was great, it was a fun read, but you're not missing anything by not reading.
 
I was fairly unimpressed by it, mainly due to the fact that it was completely unnecessary. No new information presented, and the old information detailed was wrong in a whole lot of places. It's an attempt to "modernize" Blaze's origin, but there wasn't enough changed to it to warrant this special other than a few date drops now and then and a blurring of the established facts (not to mention getting at least one character's name wrong).

Agreed. VERY disappointing.
 
I thought it was fantastic. The Mythos series has been amaxing so far. If nothing else the art was great. Some of the images of GR were really cool. The one with the mirror was my fav. And for those who haven't seen Devil Tesh:
deviltesh.jpg
 
I thought the artwork was spectacular, the story is new for me (because I'm a die-hard 90s GR junkie) and it puts Blaze in perspective for me in the series. In the 90s they really made him into all kinds of different things he really wasnt.

I remember him in the first 90s comics as a chain-smoking bad ass who really hated the Ghost Rider...then he went to 'side-kick' mode where he talked a lot of BS but it was usually Ghost Rider who did most of the butt-kicking. In the Midnight Sons arc he somehow transformed himself into part Cyborg which really made him into the most cliche'ed hero of all time.

From then, the Velez Jr run turned Blaze from a bad-ass, to a simple unemployed moocher.....then didn't he turn into an accountant or office worker??

I'm glad this comic came out and let people know that Blaze is starting out with a fresh new slate..and it's refreshing to say the least. I like the idea of Blaze still being the dumb-ass naive boy who made the wrong choice for all the right reasons..thats how he belongs.
 
I thought it was fantastic. The Mythos series has been amaxing so far. If nothing else the art was great. Some of the images of GR were really cool. The one with the mirror was my fav. And for those who haven't seen Devil Tesh:
deviltesh.jpg

I noticed that too! Isnt John Tesh a born against Christian? How ironic. I wonder what he thinks about it... :woot:
 
Although this comic didn't read all too well, the art was spectacular and the stunt where Johnny revealed himself as Ghost Rider to the crowd as damn impressive.

Although I'm tired of seeing Ghost Riders in the Sky referenced in the comics.
 
Here's the Vengeance Unbound review for Mythos: Ghost Rider # 1. Obviously, spoilers ahoy:

The third Mythos special takes a look at the origin of the Ghost Rider with its bizarre attempt to modernize the comic with the movie - or at least, that's the publicized intent. I'm just left with one question: "what the hell was the point of this?".

Over the years, Marvel has given us countless retellings of the Ghost Rider's origin, some of which being straight adaptations of his first Marvel Spotlight issue. The most recent example came in the current Ghost Rider series just two months ago, which begs the question of why this issue was deemed necessary at all. With all of the changes made to the classic story in this one-shot along with the attempt to set it during the present day, it's obvious that it's not intended as canon for the character's mythology. Plus, as a story meant to introduce people to the character, it fails to even explore what the Ghost Rider's powers or mission are after his initial transformation. Honestly, I can't view it as anything but a failure given what the comic was intended to do.

But when we get to the story itself, writer Paul Jenkins doesn't do half bad. The main crux of Jenkins' alterations to Blaze's origin comes in the fact that the Devil comes to Johnny instead of the established vice versa, but it works here in a story that's more or less operating in its own little world. Gone is Johnny's dabbling in the occult and Roxanne's "pure heart" saving him from damnation and instead it comes down to the one simple deal. It's simplified, and if this were intended to be the character's definitive origin in continuity it just wouldn't work - but here, in this one "mythological" retelling, it suits things just fine.

But where Jenkins stumbles is the attempt to set the story in the modern day while keep Johnny as a stunt biker, a concept that's unfortunately dated badly in its 1970's creation. There's a slight change with Blaze now being an X-Games sport-bike rider, but it still doesn't help. You can give us the date as many times as you like, the story will always feel like it's taking place decades ago - it's just the nature of the concept itself. But regardless, Jenkins does a fine job of getting inside Johnny's head and the details behind his deal with Lucifer. Blaze has always been the everyman, the loveable loser, and you can still see that aspect shining through the gruff exterior in this story.

The main selling point of the book, of course, is the fully painted art by Paolo Rivera. Visually, the book is stunning to look at, but Jenkins stumbles here as well by robbing the artist of what he's come to paint. Throughout this issue, we're given 5 pages that feature the Ghost Rider, and I can't help but feel a bit robbed by that. Rivera still does an excellent job with his renditions of Blaze and Roxanne, but c'mon - the book isn't called Ghost Rider for its health. The only thing about Rivera's art in itself that bugged me was his decision to make Satan resemble the celebrity John Tesh. Yes, it's a cute little joke, but damn if it didn't pull me right out of the story once I caught onto the resemblance. This has been a recurring problem in many of Marvel's books of late, with artists going way too far with the photo referencing of celebrities, and this is just another of the growing list of examples. There's also a confusing bit near the end, with Satan standing on the ramp when Johnny does his stunt - is the Devil really there, or is it all in Blaze's head? It really could've been made more clear, because as it stands it makes little sense.

Mythos: Ghost Rider is an odd animal; in theory, the book doesn't work, but the application wasn't half bad. Is it essential for Ghost Rider readers? Most definitely not. But it's still a decent story with some visually gripping artwork...it's just, well, completely unnecessary.

Grade: B-
 

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